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2012 Honda Civic

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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    Funny, just got my Motor Trend today and am reading about the Ford Focus and I just might have to change my opinion on this car...the article makes it sound like a great car, just like the Elantra, so this is gonna be an interesting period these next many months as we choose the wife's next ride...so many good choices out there. So, after tax season, the search will begin! :)

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • hammer26hammer26 Posts: 1
    Just thought some may want to see the gallery of civic photos prior to the unveiling by honda. Enjoy

    http://9thcivic.com/forum/threads/largest-photo-collection-of-2012-civics.455/
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Great pics! The last one, of the window sticker on the LX sedan, is the most interesting to me. LX automatic sedan is $19,400--or about $1400 more than the Elantra GLS automatic. And the Elantra has more interior room, gets better fuel economy (EPA), has more power and one more cog in the AT, has 16" wheels vs. 15", and of course a longer warranty. And the Elantra looks better to my eyes.

    But it's a Civic, so Honda will sell a lot of them.
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,195
    Sigh. So they keep the space shuttle dashboard....
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    It looks a little less Starship Enterprise for 2012 to me. Maybe it's a few straighter lines, or maybe because I'm used to it since it was first seen in 2005. Not nearly as nice a dash as the likes of Cruze, Elantra, Focus, or Mazda3 though. It's unmistakably Honda though.

    I hope the driving experience is improved over the 2006-11 generation, otherwise I think it will be a tough sell vs. other new models (Cruze/Elantra/Focus) and the 2012 Mazda3.
  • lcw1lcw1 Posts: 35
    Test drove the EX today and I admit to being pleasantly surprised by the seat comfort , roominess and handling. The dash board is let's say different but not a deal breaker. According to the salesman the nav system comes only with the EX-L. No surprise here since Honda was never known for being flexible. The lowest price tag I saw locally for the EX is 20,300 leading one to question why the CIVIC EX instead of a more equipped Elantra with double the warranty.
    Of course it takes experts to point the difference between the 2 but the experts are in no hurry to review the CIVIC. Maybe Edmunds will soon take the lead and clarify few things.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    I think the dearth of reviews is more Honda's fault than anything. They tend to hold back on making cars available for test drives until the car is officially introduced to dealerships. Maybe that's so they have more time to clear out the old cars.
  • I stoppped by my local dealer today and they had several of the 2012 civics in stock. I was waiting to look at this car to try to decide between a few different models. The decision not to buy the civic was very quick. I have to say that the interior quality is the absolute worst that I have ever seen. The top of the door panels are made of a flat black plastic, and the bottom section is a tan or grey plastic. The plastic is so thin, that it flexes to the touch. The carpet is not carpet, it appears to be the insulation that you would find under the carpet in most cars. The dash is pieced together from many pieces of very cheap plastic. The only soft touch on the dash or doors was where your elbo rests, and that even looked like an after thought. With so many compacts upping :( the interiors so much lately, I honestly cannot believe that Honda is trying to sell this car. The drivetrain may be fine, but I don't even care to drive it. I have been waiting a long time time to see this car, and I am very disgusted to finally see it. Honda will fall behind quickly if this continues.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    OMG. It's worse than I feared.

    I had a 1988 Civic LX that was one of my favorite cars of all time. One thing I liked about it, aside from the slick shifter, was that I thought the interior materials were very high quality for the price point. The cloth was rich-feeling and durable. The plastic was mostly padded, strong, and high quality. The rear seat had two adjustable head rests--a rarity for the class in 1988. I cried a bit when I traded it in 3 years later on my first minivan (2nd child on the way).

    I also owned a 1985 Civic S, two-tone grey/silver, that I loved. Had that for nearly 8 years. A car far ahead of its time in design.

    The downward spiral of the Civic has been a sad thing to watch.
  • Got a quote for a 2012 Civic LX with auto today for $19000.00 plus tax, title in Gurnee, IL .

    Is It a good Deal?

    Please advise.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Tell them it needs to be no more than $18k or you'll buy an Elantra, see what they say. ;)
  • motorcity6motorcity6 Posts: 427
    Honda in the long term is the better buy if nothing more than a great resale value..The Korean offering is nothing without the long term warranty...Never owned either one, however history is with Honda..
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    I didn't say "buy an Elantra"... I said tell the Honda salesperson, come down in price closer to that of the Elantra.

    Unfortunately, it appears history is the only thing Honda has going for it right now... with the new Civic anyway. :sick:
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    "Never owned one"...so your opinion has no merit! We have both and they are great cars for their price points...and we'd have no problem buying either brand again! But I speak from real world experience...you speak from what...? Always find it amusing when folks come into Edmunds and pontificate on things they have no first hand knowledge of but keep spewing "their opinions" and these are based on what? Guess everyone has the right to say whatever they want but with nothing to back it up with, it's all just blah, blah, blah with no credibility!

    Guess Forest Gump was right! :)

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • lcw1lcw1 Posts: 35
    Easy does it. There is no way this article can be viewed as objective. These are new cars and aside from the looks you can't predict their performance .
    Besides, looks are subjective. I test drove the Elantra and the Civic but the test drive did not persuade me to choose one over the other. One can point out that the Honda is more expensive but it also comes with a spare tire and a remote key for the trunk not found in the Elantra. The name Honda is also more reassuring and for some that's priceless.
    I decided to wait till next year to see which car holds up best. Maybe by then all the kinks are worked out and the cream rises to the top.
  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    I believe the Elantra has a spare tire (although it probably is the compact spare as is the Civic's). As for a "remote trunk key" I assume you mean a remote trunk release on the key fob? If so, well yes, the Civic does have a remote trunk release on the fob BUT, if I am not mistaken only the top line EX and above models have that feature. That was the case in 2006 when we bought ours (EX sedan) and having just looked at the Honda site I think it still is. Further, I would be most suprised if the Elantra didn't have it as well....just checked and both models have it. Yes the Civic is more expensive but has virtually nothing the Elantra doesn't except maybe the Honda name. Finally, why do you have to wait a year to see how they will hold up? The Civic is a barely refreshed 2006-2010 so there is a history (not all good) and the Elantra is all new but has a great history going back at least 10 years or more. Top picks in most comparison tests including Consumer Reports.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    The 2011 Elantra does not have a spare tire, but a pump and can of sealant. There's room under the trunk for a spare, but it would have to be purchased.
  • lcw1lcw1 Posts: 35
    Well you make some valid points but:

    ' The Civic is a barely refreshed 2006-2010 so there is a history (not all good) '

    Over one million Civics are still on the road and they didn't sell because they are cheap. Maybe they had few issues over the years but those issues did not stop one million people from buying one.

    The new civic has quite few changes over the old one. It is lighter, smaller on the outside but bigger in the inside, gives better gas mileage and is less noisy at least when new.

    'the Elantra is all new but has a great history '

    'All new' can't have great history
    I am not bashing the new Elantra but I feel better if I wait one year to make a judgment.
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