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2011 Subaru Forester

prigglypriggly Posts: 642
The new 2011 Subaru Forester offers a host of new and upgraded features compared to the outgoing model. Foremost among these features is a new New engine- 2.5L 4 cylinder boxer engine, now 2498 cc engine (was 2457cc), new chain-drive DOHC double overhead cam (replacing belt drive SOHC), new coolant system for block and head, slighly longer piston stroke, lighter components. Fuel economy 21/27 for both manual and automatic non-turbo 2.5L models.

This new and refined 2.5L is going to be used in the future in other cars, with new technologies as Subaru moves to further improve economy, power, emissions.

New Models Top of the line X Touring and XT Touring models.

Gone XT Limited model dropped, replaced by the XT Touring model.

New modifications include:

New front grill
New larger rear seat headrests, see photos
New upgraded stereos on all models except X
New Driver's window one push up/down except on X
New Telescoping plus tilt steering wheel on all except X
New Back-up cameras available on Premium and Limited, standard on Touring
New Bluetooth. All models except base X have hands-free Bluetooth with steering wheel controls.

New All models require synthetic oil. 2.5L uses 0W-20. Turbo XT models require synthetic 5W-30 oil.

Colors and Materials
Gone Newport Blue
New Marine Blue Pearl
New Sky Blue Metallic

New cloth on X, X Premium - Black and Platinum cloth
New cloth on XT Premium - Black and Platinum Moray cloth

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2011.html

The oil change interval for the XT Turbo under "normal use" has been increased to 7,500 miles with the new Subaru Synthetic oil.

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2011.html

The new Forester appears to be a significant improvement over the 2010 model and should find an enthusiastic reception among Subaru devotees.
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Comments

  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    The oil change interval for the XT Turbo under "normal use" has been increased to 7,500 miles with the new Subaru Synthetic oil.

    I wonder if this recommendation will apply to prior year XT Turbos?
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    As of July that was the message. It is not at all logical from an engineering standpoint that the 2010 turbo engine requires more frequent oil changes than the exact same engine labeled 2011.

    I will change the oil in my Forester XT every 3000+ miles whatever the recommendation. Service writers at my local dealer have mentioned the foul condition of the oil drained from all the turbos. I buy my oil changes in bulk (5 at a time) from the dealer. Oil is cheap; engines and turbos are not.
  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    edited November 2010
    The 7500-mile normal-use oil change interval with synthetic oil should apply equally to the XT engines before 2011, as the engines are unchanged.
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    7500-mile normal-use oil change interval with synthetic oil should apply equally

    But without a service bulletin confirming, one should not presume warranty coverage.
  • The AT has a manual and sport mode which is very confusing.
    If I wanted a MT. I would order a MT why would I want both ?
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    The sport mode improves performance at the expence of fuel economy. It is in no way manual: It is just a change in the transmission's programmed shift points that gives you a choice. It can also minimize hunting back and forth between gears on a long grade.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    And boy is it improved with a dual-zone climate control system and a high-end Harmon-Kardon 440 watt audio system with upgraded head unit! Gone are the days of crappy sound in the Forester.

    http://www.subaru.com/engineering/electronics-audio/premium-sound.html

    The NAV system is also improved.

    http://www.subaru.com/engineering/electronics-audio/navigation.html

    http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/forester/index.html

    This baby is mucho improved and well may be my next car!

    And to top it all off, the big bonus is the steering wheel does not shake!
  • 2011 Subaru Forester is online as of now:

    2011 Subaru Forester <Click
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    The new 2011 Forester is going to come with an upgraded head unit and high-end Harmon-Kardon or Pioneer audio speakers!

    Gone now are the days of primitive audio and it's about time! The car will be a sheer pleasure to listen to (and drive)!
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    Still has the rather ancient four speed automatic. Overdue for a five or six speed.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    It may be ancient but it still works just fine. More gears is not necessarily better.

    Look at the Germans. They are up to eight or even more and are still not satisfied!
  • kilnkiln Posts: 39
    edited November 2010
    Where does it say the Forester gets the 440 watt Harman Kardon system? I've only seen it in the Outback and Legacy.

    From what I can tell it's not listed as one of the options. Unless the 7 speaker system in the Touring is Harman Kardon (not specified).

    Hopefully I'm missing it somewhere.

    http://www.subaru.com/content/static/vehicles/forester/compare.html
  • Why do they all sound like cement mixers at start up?
    Dealer said that this is normal I think it's embarrassing.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Boxers have a characteristic growl to them, most would not compare to a cement truck, though.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,645
    Yeah, I cannot comment on the new engine - I haven't heard it yet. The engines on all my Subaru's - all the EJ25 (one a DOHC, the other three SOHC) - were not noisy unless the oil level was low. My last three, in which I use(d) a high-quality synthetic, are particularly quiet on start-up and run very smooth.

    These engines do not have the balances required on in-line and V engine configurations, though, so until they get get to idle speed (i.e., the first second or so as they are started), they will rumble.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    My statement about the speakers in the new Forester being Harman-Kardon was in error. I took the information out of a general blurb on Subaru audio systems which referred to Harman-Kardon for some of their lines but it did not in fact apply to Forester.

    The new Forester audio speakers are apparently Panasonic.

    My apologies.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's all good. :shades:
  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    edited November 2010
    My 2008 boxer engine has no growl. I do wish it had the rumble that old Foresters have.
    It does have some clatter when started up cold. Sounds perfectly normal, but not as quiet as 1.5L inline four in our other Japanese car.
  • I don't mind the growl but concerned on the clatter during start up on a cold engine
    even if it goes away after it warms up.
    It sounds like an old car with bad lifters.
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Posts: 519
    edited November 2010
    I didn't buy an '09 2.5X Premium, because I couldn't get a telescopic wheel on it. So I'm stoked that the '11 has that feature now. So I went down and test drove one. First off, the oil filter is on top of the engine, and upside down! Easiest car to change oil on, ever! Not sure how they prevent the filter from draining out, or if they designed an oil path that makes this a non-issue. Still checking into that. And, the vehicle requires Synthetic Oil.

    But another thing that I noticed was that the beautiful cast-aluminum intake manifold "spider" is gone, replaced with smooth black plastic intake runners. Hmmm.

    Happy to say that the engine is quite a bit quieter after a cold start. And quickly settles down to a very smooth Idle. On the road, at 2600-3000 RPM, I sense that the engine is a bit noisier. Perhaps the loss of head-to-head reinforcement that the old intake manifold provided is the cause. Not sure. But I had driven a 2010 Forester form Portland to Eugene last month, and it was definitely not making the same noise. This was, so you know, an brand new engine with 4 miles on it, I put on another 6.

    The standard Radio is much better sounding, and I did check that it worked with my iPod and played music directly off a USB Drive! If anyone finds out if the radio can be made to release browsing of the iPod back to the iPod GUI, please post!

    Just food for thought. Can't wait to read what others think about the new engine.
  • I find our 2 10 Foresters (PZEZs) much noisier than our previous 5. This is only at start-up and lasts for about 10 to 15 seconds. It is not "lifter" type noise, just busy noise, and slightly "rough" sounding. Part of it sounds like something is being vented and then closes. Maybe due to something with the air pump upon starting.
  • ... concerned on the clatter during start up on a cold engine even if it goes away after it warms up. It sounds like an old car with bad lifters.

    Mine is not a clatter like bad lifters. It is just not a sewing machine at a cold start, like my other car which is a Japanese inline four.
  • billwvbillwv Posts: 48
    The 4AT with PZEV can be very noisy and erratic on cold start -- this is by design and has to do with emissions control. After starting in "P" shift to "N" and see if it smooths out.

    Bill
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    Yet another inferior compromise forced down the throats of otherwise sensible people by the selfish radical environmentalists who would choose inferior technology over tried and proven engine and tranny choices any day. The lack of evidence of their efficacy be damned.
  • I just picked up the advertising brochure for the 2011 Forester. The only instrument panel shown in this brochure is for the turbo, and it shows a temperature indicator. They didn't have a non-turbo model in stock, so I couldn't check, and I was wondering if anyone has seen a non-turbo '11 model and could tell me if they have put that gauge back in the instrument panel. The 09's and 10's didn't have a temp gauge, and I would like to know if the 11 model has it. Thanks.
  • fnamowiczfnamowicz Posts: 190
    The 2.5x Premium has a temp.light.
  • all trims require synthetic? ive got an xprem nonturbo, and the service mgr at subaru said only turbos require synthetic, but he also said the oil is indicated on the cap. mine says 0w-20 -- which i cannot find.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    New All models require synthetic oil. 2.5L uses 0W-20. Turbo XT models require synthetic 5W-30 oil.

    Per cars101.com.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,645
    I have never seen a non-synthetic oil that is rated as 0W-, so that alone says to me that you'll need synthetic. Synthetic is a better oil, so feel good about it. ;)
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
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