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Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • jk111jk111 Posts: 125
    yep, I will bet that subaru is just waiting to see how popular the wrx will be in the US market. If everything goes well, they might offer something fall of 2003 the earliest.
  • tazerelitazereli Posts: 241
    Has anyone heard of this version of the WRX. Better or worse performance? Price? Coming to US? Any help would be great
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    did you order from 4-Seasons Subaru in Missoula? That is where my brother is going. They didn't have a definite answer on the yellow yet but subie's cuntomer support number said it was NOT available. My brother says he will not be ordering one unless he can get yellow, he'll just wait instead untill they are on the lot. I'd like to get one too but will just settle for rides in his for now.
  • bedabibedabi Posts: 149
    I've tried to contact two dealers in NYC thru Subaru's WRX site, but got no responses at all. I then went upstate to a Subaru dealer in Brewster, NY. The salesman didn't even know what a WRX was! And the sales manager said he couldn't possibly take a deposit without knowing the prices or which WRX cars he would be getting. Has anyone had any luck trying to put a deposit down on a WRX in New York? Or New Jersey?
  • tmc1688tmc1688 Posts: 28
    Personally I think that almost all Subaru dealers are idiots. I wanted to buy a Impreza RS 2.5 The salesman told me that they sold out and only arriving was 4 or 5 Imprezas a month. Then he told me and my friend he had except for one available which is locked up and guarded by security dogs only if we were going to buy it he would let us see it. What a MORON! Then we asked him if the turbo version was coming he said he can get us the turbo Impreza. I asked him the STI 22B Version? He looked puzzled and said "yeah". I asked him what was the horsepower rating and he just threw a number in the air "about 300 something HP". What a Jerk! Oh by the way that was 1 year ago. I ended up buying a 2000 Jetta VR6 Manual.

    Its a big shame Subaru has a great car but a stupid sales team!

    I think I'm going to clean my Jetta today, make it look shiny and go back to the same dealership and proclaim to the car sharks "you had me at hello"(from Jerry Mcquire, movie). Now lets talk about the WRX if they even know it existed or what it is.

    Anyone know of a Subaru webpage I can vent my frustrations?

    Oh by the way there are only about 3 Subaru dealers in the state of Florida. North Miami, Tampa, and Deerfield Beach. That means a long drive to each. Which is another shame, location sucks...
  • I'm 6' 6" and managed to squeeze into a UK WRX two years ago. My main problem was my knees running into the steering column, though I imagine if you drive heel and toe that shouldn't be an issue. It was a great car, but I definitely didn't flog it hard to enough to see what was available.

    Do people know if this WRX is on a different/newer Impreza chasis as the one I would have driven? Given a few more inches (that a couple of people mentioned versus the older 2.5RS) it would be an interesting choice.

    It is truly amazing to me all the great vehicles that can't be had in the States---Lancer Evos, Galant VR-4s, Skyline GT-R, the fast Pugeuots, heck, even the Land Rover Defender. With the WRX coming, we'll have the first of the Japanese cheap supercars at least.

    As for turbo longevity, I drive a 1987 Volvo 745 Turbo with 170k miles, original turbo, K&N, freer exhaust, and a raised boost level. It's been driven hard with regular oil (but strict 5k changes) and some spool-down time on every drive. No turbo problems at all. If it did need a turbo rebuild, one would be looking at $700 or so. The older Subaru turbos (GL-10s and the like) sold in the States have done okay with good handling and TLC.

    Cheers,
    Mike
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    The new WRX is built off an all new Impreza platform that will also cary the rest of the Impreza line.

    It is lsightly longer, and wider and 250% "stiffer" according to press releases.
  • You might want to call the guy who sent me a message in post#67 - he is at a dealership in Victor, NY, near Rochester. Might be a good deal, but it is too far away from me to make sense.
  • Subaru's Active Valve Control System (variable valve timing) is only available on the Japanese market. Does anyone know the details on this system? Is it continuous variable or stage variable? Is it lift variable? I've heard that AVCS leads to higher emission level that exceeds U.S. standard. It sounds unlikely that we'll ever get variable timing in the WRX (at least in the near future). Any thoughts on the above?
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    Everyone seem to have completely forgotten how nice the SVX was.... it was in a class by itself, but mag editors usually compare it to the vettes, Supras... I suppose the front lights of the WRX are so big and ugly because they won't have to modify much to be in race rally form. Big bright lights are great for night time racing, eh?

    As for which cars might be in the same price/performance, don't forget the future rotary 2+2 Mazda. I'd consider that so that I don't have to wonder about turbo reliability. It would have been nicer if Subaru had the SVX in turbo form... imagine a horizontal six with turbo?!

    In any case, Subaru still has a weak image as compared to Toyota, Honda or Nissan. That's why you don't see people rushing to get GMs (supercharged six) that can get almost the same performance as the WRX.
  • r34r34 Posts: 178
    I knew the current Impreza 2.5RS rear seats are not foldable. I hope the WRX has foldavle rear seats because I like the extra storage room.

    Someone say AWD may not be able to have foldable seats (like Passat 4motion and 2.5RS) but A4 quattro got them....

    P.S. I won't pay $30k for a V6 Subaru.
  • bedabibedabi Posts: 149
    Just placed an order with Pat Gleason - no deposit, first come first served. Very little fuss and very straightforward. You can even decide not to buy after test driving it!
  • According to everything I've read, the sedans will have fixed rear seat backs with a trunk pass through behind the armrest (for skis, or long pipes/lumber, etc.). Maybe a Sport Wagon is a better choice if you need to haul cargo - quickly :)

    bedabi - good for you! Hope you are able to get the car you want.
  • Hi,

    Just a reminder--Subaru does not have a V-6. The engine is a "flat" or H-6.

    And, you CAN buy an H6 for less than $30,000. If interested, I can give you the name of a dealer about an hour and a half from you. The engine, BTW, is really a great improvement over the 2.5.

    Just my 2 cents...

    Don
  • bedabibedabi Posts: 149
    yesterday. I ordered one from the Subaru site. It has a lot of great pictures of both the sedan and wagon (I ordered a silver wagon to haul my trusty sidekick -- a pit bull) and all the information on specifications and dimensions. To answer some above questions (in inches): sedan headroom is 38.6 (front) / 36.7 (rear); wagon headroom is 39.7 (front) / 37.3 (rear); sedan leg room is 42.9 (front) / 33.0 (rear); wagon leg room is 42.9 (front) / 33.7 (rear); sedan shoulder room is 52.7 (front) / 52.9 (rear); and wagon shoulder room is the same.
  • ottosottos Posts: 80
    What do the 17" wheels look like? How much are they? If I were to order one today, how long will it take to get it?

    I have a european magazine article with pics of the euro version. Those wheels look real nice, like bigger sized stock wheels.

    That guage pack has a boost gauge, voltmeter, and oil temp. right? No oil pressure? If not, guess I'll pass on the gauge set.
  • Refer to Glenn Wallace's excellent WRX enthusiast's site. The 17's are forged BBS cross-spoke style, not larger versions of the stock alloys. They will be a dealer installed option, and supposedly are going to cost about $2500.00 per set (!), plus tires. The gauge pack has a boost gauge, volt meter, and oil temp gauge - no pressure. Glenn's site has a good pic - the pack looks very "add-on", and does not integrate with the rest of the interior very well. I'm going to pass on the gauge pack, and see what the aftermarket comes up with.
  • s1ginss1gins Posts: 46
    The Legacy has AWD and rear fold-down seats, so the two are not mutually exclusive
  • WHOA! Are the 17" wheels really $2500? I'd better call the dealer and cancel that option on mine ASAP!!!! If I really want the performance boost of 17" after driving the 16", I'll get some less pricey ones. I figured $600-800 for the option, not $2.5K!

    I also am disappointed by the lack of oil pressure in the gauge pack. Bag the voltmeter, give me oil pressure. Or better, give me both.

    I can answer definitively based on the brochure I received yesterday, that the rear seat in the sedan does NOT fold. There is an armrest/passthru. The wagon gets 60/40 split folding rear seats. The wagon does get a small spoiler at the top of the rear window, the spoiler on the sedan is optional.
  • From the Subaru dealer in Chatanooga, TN

    "Thanks for your inquiry. We are very well aware of the WRX, and understand your disgust with the dealers in your area. I can't say it makes me proud to be a Subaru dealer, but I'll happily take the business that they choose to ignore.

    Our pricing policy is currently $5 under sticker- not trying to be cute, but we want to be able to let people preserve some pride, while recognizing that we could sell the cars well above sticker if we chose to do so. We currently have five sold orders in, and the deadline for the first allocation is January 26th. We expect our first cars to arrive mid-March.

    I just returned from Detroit where I was able to see the car firsthand, and I'm very excited about it. There are many people who are understandably reticent about buying a car they have never seen, so our Subaru rep is bringing a WRX up here on February 8th. You are welcome to come up then and have a look (though you'll miss the first round of ordering, if that matters to you).

    If you have any further questions, please let me know. If you'd like to talk, call me at 1-800-242-1562.

    If you'd like, I can also add you to my WRX "mailserv" list, which will give you regular updates on the WRX.

    Thanks-

    Tim Kelly
    Kelly Cadillac/SAAB/Subaru
    Chattanooga, TN
  • "Unfortunately, the car will be here Feb 8th only, and then for a grand total of...drum roll please...two hours. I know that's not great, but it's better than nothing, I guess. In all honesty, there will be a stop in Birmingham (Jim Burke) on Feb 2nd at 10am if that suits you better, though also for only two hours."
  • puzurpuzur Posts: 10
    I just ordered a silver 5-speed sedan from Tony Moore Subaru in Decatur, Alabama. 1 (800) 844-1984. They gave me a great price, and the sales staff was very responsive.
  • very reasonable to deal with. gave me enough time to make smart buying choice. anyone in Ohio should call him collect at 216-226-6433. great service. a true professional
  • Again, Glenn Wallace's web site lists some great pics of the Detroit show display, and features a close-up of the 17" BBS wheel option. Maybe you could email Glenn from the site and ask about where he got that wheel price. I've owned over 20 cars, many purchased from highline dealers. IMHO, you can always do better ordering a wheel/tire package from the Tire Rack when you are ready to upgrade. You'll get expert mounting and balancing, and a wide choice of tires as well - and you'll likely save money. I've done this several times, and sold my stock wheels locally or on Ebay.
  • I currently have a refundable deposit with my local dealer, and a signed order stating they will sell me a car, as ordered, for MSRP + TT&L. The order was sent to SOA on 1/16/01, so I may be lucky enough to receive one of the early allocation cars. I'm sure there are some dealers around the U.S. willing to sell a WRX under MSRP, but I wonder why? Once the initial rush dies down a bit, I'd guess there will be some bargaining room, but it seems to me that a dealer willing to sell an early allocation WRX for less than MSRP is just leaving money on the table. I won't pay more than list, but I realize demand drives the market, so I feel that MSRP from a local dealer for an early delivery is an okay deal. Comments?
  • Yes, I saw the pictures of the wheels on the website. They look great, but not to the tune of $2500, especially when you factor in the trade in of the 16" wheels. I'll need some winter wheels, so I had planned on getting a set of studded 16" wheels after the car arrived with 17". Now I'm definitely going the other direction. I'll take the 16" wheels stock, live with the tires for winter use until they wear out, and get my own 17" wheels/tires in the summer. If I get the car in March I have at least two more months of mountain snows to deal with anyway, so I'd rather be on the 16" all seasons when I get the car. I've got to call the dealer tomorrow and see if they have the option prices yet.

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  • ottosottos Posts: 80
    So for those who have ordered their cars, when will you get them?
  • rolfnrolfn Posts: 1
    Supply and demand. A car with an inflated MSRP will require substantial incentives to move it and can usually be bought at very close to invoice. Examples: Isuzu's, 95% of all Chrysler products, etc. The market decides what is fair. I think the MSRP for the WRX is pretty close on the mark and I doubt they will sell for much, if any, of a discount. I live in Colorado, a state with just over 4 million people, a state with lots of high altitude (perfect for turbo's) and snow (perfect for all wheel drive). $23.5 MSRP for a wagon seems like a fair price, considering that we will probably get only several hundred out of the 10,000 that are supposed to get here.

    ps--if you live in Denver and are considering an Audi, VW, or Volvo--stay away from McDonald! They are awful, both pre-sale and after-sale! Go to Prestige for Audi, they're way cool.
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