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Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • svillekensvilleken Posts: 9
    Thanks to everyone on this group. I was able to get a local dealer to ordered me a WRX Wgn with 5spd, Armrest, Subwoofer, Spker Upgrade, Security Upgrade, Mirror/Compass, and Gauge Pack for $24,463 plus tax/title. I basically quoted the deal listed by another poster for a car from Fredricksburg Automall in Maryland + $500. I told the dealer that it was worth $500 for me to not have to travel to Maryland about 325 miles +/-to pick-up the car. Unforturnately I told my wife my plan and when the local dealer accepted my offer (after some countering and whining on their part) she was a little disappointed that they accepted because she was looking forward to a weekend getaway to the Va/Md shore. BTW the local dealer is Vic Bailey Subaru in Spartanburg, SC and my salesman was Paul Convertino....ken
  • svillekensvilleken Posts: 9
    On a side note when I was discussing my offer, the Salesman would "do the numbers" and share with the Sales Manager to determine if they could accept. Do Salespeople at dealers really have to "consult" with the Sales Manager? In my case they had to get Mr. Bailey's (Vic Bailey Subaru) permission to order the car at my price. My wife and I decided that Mr. Bailey may be a Buddha Statue in the corner or picture on the wall and telling people that they had to get Mr. Bailey's permission is meant to make the buyer feel like they got a great deal. Others thoughts?...ken
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Good question. That little game cracks me up. In my experience, it depended on the size and location of the dealership. When my wife was shopping for her OB, one dealership in a busy residential/commercial area did that. OTOH, we found 2 smaller dealerships in less crowded areas where we dealt directly with the Sales Managers.

    IMO, they don't really have to do that because:
    a. Regardless of what they sell the car for, the dealership will still get 2% holdback based on MSRP.
    b. The salesman will get the commission, not the manager. The lower the selling price, the lower the commission for the salesperson.
    Unless the salesperson is saying "please, don't make me sell the car that cheap".

    b. is pure speculation. :-) Any car salespeople out there?

    Dennis
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    From Edmunds Car Buying Advice:
    http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/43091/page008.html
    "When the salesperson is convinced you are not going to come up, he or she will take your offer to the manager. You may be left alone for a long time. Don't be afraid to get up and wander around. This will usually bring the salesperson back quickly they don't want to lose you.

    When the salesperson finally returns, he or she is apt to look like the manager just reamed them out. This is a play to make you feel sorry for them. The dealership wants the best deal possible. But they do want to make a deal. It's good for the salesperson who needs to qualify for bonuses and the dealership which makes money on quotas, incentives and holdbacks."
    Dennis
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  • curcicurci Posts: 6
    I did all my shopping for my WRX over the telephone. Never even met anyone face-to-face until I picked up my car, (it was a factory order - took 6 weeks).

    I would only deal with the sales manager, two managers out of four dealerships offered to sell it at $500 over invoice. From start to finish the whole thing took 1 day and two conversations.

    It's my experience then that cutting out the salesman may be real helpful, as I suspect the managers are more interested in moving cars and "doing volume". The salesman on the other hand are constantly trying to figure their commission.
  • Sure, I've heard all the hype about the WRX and how one MUST, just MUST, buy one with a standard transmission. I'm curious about the ignored automatic. Anyone know anything about the specs on the auto? Has anyone driven one? If we start with the assumption that it is possible to be a decent human being and still drive an automatic, what are your thoughts?
  • curcicurci Posts: 6
    If you go to the I-club site, and do a search under "WRX Non-technical" you will find a discussion, (I think in past 5 days or so), about people who have the auto and what their thoughts are on it. I think they were 90% positive.
  • bruticusbruticus Posts: 229
    No, seriously, from all I've heard the auto makes about as much difference in the WRX as it makes in any other high-performance car. One benefit of the autobox is that the AWD system has even greater flexibility to transfer power front/rear than does the manual version. If you anticipate needing the AWD system for poor-road conditions on a regular basis, this may be an important difference.

    DjB
  • mdimartimdimarti Posts: 12
    I also own a WRX wagon with auto. I prefer to drive a stick, as was my previous car, but living in chicago and sitting in traffic constantly pushed me over the edge. The tranny is fine, the car is still very quick. Also now my girlfriend can drive it (I don't know if that is a good thing, but it can be a pain if nobody you know can drive a stick). So I guess it is all personal opinion. If you are going to race the car (which I am not) then you should probably go for the stick. But if you just want an awesome car and do not like manual transmission, go with the auto. I think it is a $1,000 option (and may actually be easier to find one vs manual which you might have to order).
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    from an article I read this morning in the local paper on the WRX turbo lag: "you won't even notice it....you'll be too busy looking at the BMWs in your rear view mirror when the car hits it's stride". Thought you would enjoy it.

    OB Owner
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi friends,

    Catherine Heins is looking for people to interview who have switched from American to Japanese cars in the past few years-- especially folks who wouldn't have given a Toyota or Honda the time of day in the 1970s.

    She's a business reporter at the Yomiuri Shimbun, which is the biggest daily paper in Japan with a circulation of 14 million. They are writing a feature story about Japanese automakers' continuing success in expanding production in the U.S. and snatching market share from the Big Three even on their former home turf of light trucks.

    If you fit this description and are willing to be interviewed, please call her directly at 212-582-5827 or e-mail her at catheins@yahoo.com. As always, you can contact me at jfallon@edmunds.com if you have any questions.

    Thanks,

    Jeannine Fallon
    PR Director
    Edmunds.com
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Interesting "issue" being discussed here:


    http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Forum28/HTML/003852.html


    Anyone else had this problem or could maybe contribute positively?

  • edwarda1edwarda1 Posts: 18
    A used WRX is available in my area.It is yellow,has the 17" wheels and spoiler. Dealer says after having it for 2 weeks customer did not like color. (Neither do I) 600 miles. Asking $28,900 which is almost list.Salesman said "perhaps" they could let it go for 27K.Still too much. Not for me. Waiting for Sept. for market to level off, which everyone should.
  • bruticusbruticus Posts: 229
    Edward, where do you live, etc?

    That yellow color indicates a VERY limited production run of the WRX. Only the first 500 or so got that color, and it'll never be offered again.

    I find it very hard to fathom why the person would either order the car in that color w/o seeing it, or would order knowing what it looked like and then be displeased with the color.

    DjB
  • mmcbride1mmcbride1 Posts: 861
    It's too pale. It would have looked much better, IMO, as a strong, French's mustard yellow instead of the pastel-like yellow that came out.
  • I just got my own wrx sedan, which has fulfilled my wildest fantasies (I previously owned a '93 paseo with about 90hp).

    In previous posts people are saying (albeit through rumors) that both the STi and the evo VII are coming for the 2003 model year. Just wondering if the skyline might make an appearance on our shores. These three cars competing on american soil would be a beautiful sight and I think do a great deal to drive down german sports car prices. Also wondering about prices for the cars (not that I'll buy any, I'm quite happy with my wrx).
  • bigdantbigdant Posts: 9
    I was going to go out of state for a WRX sedan, but my work schedule started to make that look dicey. I also decided that a wagon would be more useful for my purposes, so I did a few things: I put an offer on Priceline for a Silver 5-speed wagon at $500 over invoice; this came back after a few days as "no takers". In my dealer calls I just asked: "Got any WRXs? (and if so...) Got a silver 5-speed wagon? (and if so...) Will you sell it to me for $500 over invoice?

    On about my 5th call I reached Marcus Smith at Walker Renton Subaru; he had allocation on a silver wagon and accepted my offer. It should arrive in Portland this coming week, then I should be able to pick it up in Renton the following week; since it was still on the RORO, we had time to change the options to my spec. For what it is worth, I got the sense that Mr. Smith would be inclined to do deals like this in future (the car is sold ahead, they get to keep holdback, etc.) assuming, of course, that he has possession/allocation of a model that you want to buy; he was a pleasure to deal with -- very straightforward. I have to leave town for a week+ for work, but when I get back I get a new WRX!

    (Side note: when I went by Carter, they had a blue 5-speed wagon with some pretty -- but not very expensive -- Motegi 8-spoke wheels and Goodyear Eagle HR rubber. I looked afterward on the Web and the total wheel/tire cost would be ~$1,000. I asked the Carter saleperson how much for the extra wheels; he said...$2,400! And that's with no credit for stock wheels/tires. Like the $1800 "Northwest Regional Market Adjustment" sticker I saw on a wagon at Auburn Subaru, I guess overpriced wheels are one more thing you can slap on then bargain down to make somebody feel like they're getting a deal.)

    Jim
  • jk111jk111 Posts: 125
    anybody bought a wrx around the north jersey area? I am looking to buy one, but have no idea where the good dealerships are.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Mike,
    From what I've heard, North Jersey dealers are selling at or only slightly off MSRP. You'll probably get a better deal farther south.

    I would recommend giving Alex Leist at Flemington Subaru a call at (908) 782-2025.
    Tell him "bluesubie" sent you.

    Dennis
  • klkrauseklkrause Posts: 96
    When I first heard the color "Blaze Yellow" I pictured something more like the French's Mustard analogy a few posts ago. I was also a bit disappointed with the pale yellow.
  • edwarda1edwarda1 Posts: 18
    Bruticus,
    I am in Massachusetts. Dealer says a rich man bought it for his 18 year old son as a graduation gift and he did not like the color after 2 weeks.Who knows?
    Ed
  • pilot16pilot16 Posts: 10
    Gretings,
    I have driven both the automatic WRX and manuel (twice) and they are both good. I suggest either one depending on your needs. As for the lag, it is over rated. The WRX seems to be at 3000rpm while costing so getting the turbo to kick-in is not the problem I was led to believe. The WRX is a grea car!
  • pilot16pilot16 Posts: 10
    coasting - sorry
  • mdimartimdimarti Posts: 12
    He returned the WRX because of the color? Did he drive it?? I agree the color isn't the greatest, but give me a break. When I was a teenager and told my parents that I wanted a car they said "get a job and buy one, you will appreciate it more that way!!!" I only wish that I could have been that spoiled. But anyways I digress, I would push for close to invoice pricing, the dealer from whom I bought my WRX wagon had a yellow sedan in their showroom and offered $1,000 off MSRP without any haggling. Look at it this way, the car is practically broken in for you!!!
  • rass0007rass0007 Posts: 3
    I recently test drove a silver wrx sedan (5M) that had leather seats. They had an embroidered "WRX" across where the shoulder blades rest. They looked pretty sweet, but the listed mark up price for them was $2000.
    The listed price for the car (had most of the options on it)with the leather was ~$27k.
    I didn't think that this was an available option for the wrx?
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    through a 3rd party and not offered as a Subaru option. I would be very concerned about this outsourcing by the dealer as it may inhibit the functioning of the side airbags that are built into the sides of the seats. At the very least I would make sure that there is a guarantee in writing as to the assurance that the side airbags will function as intended.

    You will find many dealer initiated and outsourced options that are not official options through Subaru.

    Stephen
  • rass0007rass0007 Posts: 3
    I don't recall seeing the typical markings found for the bags on the sides of the seats... Do You think I could talk the dealer down a bit if the side air-bags don't work anymore? I hope so..The seats are also heated...This would help with the cold winters...

    Thanks for the info though...maybe I'll use it to talk the dealer down..
  • rass0007rass0007 Posts: 3
    I am considering buying a Maxima or a WRX.

    I have been really looking at the WRX a lot, and have been greatly considering buying one. But I am worried about the WRX's reliability and whether it will be worth much in ~five years. Thats where the Maxima comes in..supposedly it should resell better? I am not sure...

    Personally I think the 01 Maxima is kinda ugly around the rear and wasn't that interested in it besides its reliability. Does anyone want to take a shot at whether or not the WRX will still be a hot item in a couple of years? and whether the value of the car will be resonable to sell without too much loss after five or more years?

    Also does anyone think the demand will decrease for the WRX later this year, causing the selling price of the dealers to drop?
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