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Ford Fiesta Real World MPG

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  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Hackattack5, I think you meant to reply to Phill1.

    He used the phrase "Where in the hell do you live...."

    I don't think he was angry though. ;)
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Sorry you took offense to my terminology of of "where the hell", just an expression. You explained (now) that the increase in your annual premiums went up from $1500 to $1880 for both your 04 Cavalier (and) adding the the 2012 Fiesta. Thank makes sense, since your only carrying liability on the 04 Cavalier. I live in Urban South Florida, have both a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback and a 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback with 11k/300 liability, 100k property damage, full comprehensive coverage with $100 deductible and full collision with $500 deductible and both vehicles cost me a total of $1200 annually. Of course, my wife an I are 56 and 66, and we have no children except our 2 Golden Retrievers. My insurance company is Auto Owners, very highly rated too.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Oh, almost forgot. Check out the Kia Blog, www.kiaworld.com. It has a interesting video showing the 2012 Kia Rio5 being tested in Europe by EuroPCAP, their equivalent of the NHTSA. European safety standards are much less then here in North America and the 2012 Kia Rio still got its top "5 Star" safety rating, go figure.
  • obktobkt Posts: 35
    When I sold my 1999 Miata automatic and bought a 2011 Fiesta SE, my insurance went up $6, to a total of $217 for 6 months. That's with full coverage and $500 deductable. Insurance Co is USAA. I'm 69 years old.
  • Yep it all depends on where you live, driving record and the right insurance company.
  • OK I just filled up the tank for the first time. The computer said I got 37.3 miles per gallon. My math said I got 37.17 miles per gallon. That was a 50/50 mix of driving with an average speed of 38MPH. I am very happy with this gas mileage.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    That sounds great! I also like that the computer is so close to the manually calculated numbers. My Subaru is generally 1-1.5MPG optimistic. I can't help but feel disappointed when the dash reads 27.0 MPG and I end up with 25.5 when I enter the numbers into the log. :(
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    What a hoot! If getting 1.5 (less) mpg causes you disappointment, let that be the biggest one you ever must experience. Drive by a Hospital lately and notice the Parking Lot filled to capacity?
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    The reality is that on most Fiestas, the computer will rutinely read about 2 mpg higher. You'll most likely see this on your future tanks.
  • Does anyone know how the computer figures out the gas mileage?
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    heh ;)

    taking it to the extreme :P

    ...then tell your kids...there are people starving in Africa...eat your broccoli!

    'disappointment' likely got lost in translation; he probably meant: 'it didn't meet expectations'...but yes, your message is true, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things :shades:
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    Hahahaha; indeed.

    Point taken, Phill! :blush:
  • iamz:
    You are correct. Ever since I reported 37 MPG I have not been able to match it. Oh the computer says 37 but my math say 35. I am not complaining I am more curious on how the computer figures MPG. I would guess the device that figures what the air/fuel mixture is the same thing that reports gas usage but I do not understand what fools it into reporting more than real MPG? I do kick it out of gear and let it coast to red lights.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    edited January 2012
    I don`t want to beat this issue to death since it already has been. My year old 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback with automatic transmission has produced 33-35 mpg city and 41-43 mpg highway from day one! Now with just over 16,000 miles driven, nothing has changed and the fuel economy remains constant. My 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback with automatic transmission that is barely 3 months old with about 1000 miles driven is getting much worse fuel economy despite the fact that they both have a 1.6 ltr engine and the Kia Rio has Gas Direct Injection which produces a bit more power (but) the fuel economy is no where near that of the Ford Fiesta. The 2012 Kia Rio5 is getting between 28-31 city and 36-38 highway. Both vehicle are about the same size and weight. Nothing to panic about but none the less, still a bit disappointing.
  • Phil1: My 2012 SE 5 speed manual pretty much matches your auto for around town driving but I am pretty sure I will not see 43MPG on the highway. my Fiesta runs at 3100RPM @ 70MPH and I believe the auto is around 2600RPM. The good thing is I bought it to run around town anything more than that and we take my wife's 2012 Sonata limited :)
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    edited February 2012
    Not that it has anything whatsoever to do with Fuel Economy but despite the so far somewhat inferior (lower) MPG my 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback is getting, it still has a leg up on the Fiesta in a few area`s. It has a much higher (and adjustable) Drivers Seat which allows much better frontal vision regardless of lowering the steering wheel adjustment. Has much more front seat leg room (width) for added comfort, a bit more acceleration punch due to its GDI engine, a standard Surius/XM Radio. Unfortunately, the Kia Rio5 has the worst speakers of any vehicle I have ever owned and my Ford Fiesta even with`s it base standard radio with only 4 speaks and no Sync system is much superior. I love the looks of the 2012 Kia Rio`s exterior too, "very European" but I still give my Ford Fiesta the "Crown" and wins the Swimsuit competition for looks. Parked next to each other in my driveway, they look like a handsome couple, the Fiesta in candy red metallic with the stone interior and the Rio5 in clear white with 2 tone black and beige interior.
  • It is hard to find anyone talking about Fiesta mpg. We have just under 13,000 miles on our 2011 Fiesta and average around 35-36 around town. Just wondering if that is rare since they call for 29mpg. We drove from Tennessee to Texas and back for Christmas (2011) and got 38-39 driving about five miles over the speed limit much of the time; I am very ok with that. While in Texas we topped 40 mpg for the first and only time. Just wondering if anyone else gets that good around town?
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I`ve had my 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback since July of 2010 and have got consistent 33-35 mpg city and 41-43 mpg highway at speeds of 75 to 80 mph. with the A/C always on. Same mpg from break in to present 14K miles. On the other hand, I have a new 2012 Kia Rio5 LX Hatchback that I bought Nov of 2011 with a similar 1.6 ltr. engine (but) with the GDI Gas Direct Injection which is (supposed) to achieve better fuel economy. Well I have to admit, it appears to provide better performance but at the cost of inferior gas mileage. The Kia Rio barely gets 30 mpg city and 37 mpg highway with less then 4k driven so far. Got to hand it to Ford, they engineered a vehicle that actually exceeds the EPA Fuel Estimates! When have you seen that lately. Still love my 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback but the gas milage is a bit disappointing.
  • ronelloronello Posts: 5
    My 2-month old 2012 Ford Fiesta SE Sedan with automatic transmission is only giving me 24-25 mpg in the city, with about 40% traffic, and AC on (low). The car has reached around 1000 miles, the average speed shown on the car is 20 mph. I am a pretty conservative driver, and step on the gas lightly at signals. Do I need to give the car some time to reach that 30-33 mpg city that everyone's bragging about, or is there some inherent issues with the car that need to be checked? Is it worth taking it to the dealership and getting it checked, or am I being a tad impatient? Thanks!
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    I don't see it getting any better...I do not have a fiesta...so take it for what it's worth :)

    You should track the miles driven as well; I'd guesstimate it's also very low.

    I suspect that at 20mph average you're spending a long time idling...which is zero mpg :) Our mini-van is terrible for mpg because we spend so long idling (drive-through, picking up kids, very short trips to the store...)

    If you drove an average 20mph -- steady -- through a park I think you'd have fabulous mpg numbers...but still 20mph.

    I've never seen anybody disappointed with their new car mileage all of a sudden report that the engine has finally 'broken-in' and is now a fuel-miser.

    Or put another way; I don't see putting on another 10k miles resulting in a 25% fuel efficiency increase.

    What did you drive previously? What mpg on the same route?
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Get to you local Ford dealership immediately. Something is definitely (very) wrong! My 2011 Fiesta SE Hatchback with automatic transmission has produced 34 mpg City and between 41- 43 mpg Hwy since it was taken home. On the other hand, my 2012 Kia Rio5 with the same 1.6 ltr engine is producing about 27 mpg city and maybe 35 mpg hwy. Your Fiesta needs to be looked at, NOW!
  • ronelloronello Posts: 5
    @Ivan, Thanks for the inputs! I see the point you make about having a worse mpg when driving intermittently with a lot of idling time as well, versus driving steadily at 20mph..my hunch is that I still should not be seeing such bad numbers even with the former case. This is my first car in San Diego, CA..so I cant really compare. I'll definitely get it checked at the dealership.
  • ronelloronello Posts: 5
    @Phil, thanks for the prompt reply...I'm taking it to the dealership tomorrow, and will post my experience later.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    edited April 2012
    If your average for mph is 20 then you are likely sitting at traffic lights or stuck in stop and go traffic during rush hour and not moving. Like ivan 99 said, your mpg are exactly 0 when that is happening. You're also running your AC all the time. Only 24-25 mpg sounds about right to me.

    How many miles to and from work do you drive?
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Funny, I live here in South Florida, get caught in traffic on I95 as well as in City traffic. A/C is on constantly and (my) 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback with A/T still gets 33/35 mpg city and when on the highway at speeds of 75/80 mph always get between 41/43 mpg. Like I posted earlier, something is (drastically) wrong with that Ford Fiesta and it needs to be looked at immediately. Case closed! Now my 2012 Kia Rio5 LX Hatchback, thats a different story. This (dog) gets around 26 mpg city and never more then 34 mpg highway although it has an EPA rating of 30 mpg city and 40 mpg hyw. Kia Dealership says with only 3000 miles driven, it`s still just breaking in. Odd, the Ford Fiesta achieved the same mpg from day one! If sitting in traffic, stuck at a traffic light, etc would result in 20 mpg with just a tiny 1.6 ltr. 4 cyl. engine, and that seems about right, I guess one would expect to run out of gas (immediately) if they had a hemi V8, correct?
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    heh.

    He didn't say how long we went between fill-ups...just he got 26mpg and averaged 20 mph. Getting zero miles (idling) will always get 0 mpg; it depends on how long you're sitting as to how it'll affect your overall mpg average.

    That tank could have lasted him a month. 5 miles to work...5 miles back averaging 26mpg.

    26 mpg can get you 10 miles per day on one tank of gas...for a month.
    Tank (12 G) @ 26mpg = 312 miles range
    10 miles per day * 30 days = 300 miles.

    Of course this is all made up.

    He could have problems...but he didn't say any warning lights were on, or smoke was coming out the tail pipe, or it was hesitating, hiccuping, stalling, etc.

    I thought he said he was in San Diego...isn't that hilly? I remember getting 27 mpg with my Infiniti Q45 on a trip. When I would have the instant-mpg showing it was really interesting to see the mpg drop to 7-8 when there was a slight incline.

    Anyway...I suspect they'll come back and say...sorry...no error codes, everything is fine.

    The hemi would run out of gas sooner...even with a 19 gallon tank :)
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Hey phill1,

    Just for kicks, take a look at your average mph reading on your Fiesta and report back if you would please. Mine is usually between 40 and 45.
  • ronelloronello Posts: 5
    @All, thanks for the inputs! Took the car to the dealership yesterday, and the mechanic drove the car for 20 miles (mostly highway miles) and reported 42.8 mpg to me using his IDS system (in addition to the dash). No defects were reported to me at this time, and he suggested the same plausible causes for the low mpg numbers that you guys mentioned (lots of idling, excessive stop-start in traffic, etc...)
    @iamz, I drive 12 miles (round-trip) to and from work each day...
    @ivan, your calculations are pretty accurate...I have filled up a full tank approx. once a month. At this point, I dont have anything to compare to coz everyone's average mph seems to be much higher..but iamz and phil, it would be nice to know what mpg numbers you guys are getting at average 40-45 mphs...thanks again!
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    ronello,

    my long term average is between 39-40 mpg. In the winter I get around 37 mpg and in the summer I get around 42 mpg. I have a long 90 mile, round trip commute that is mostly rural 2 lane highway where I drive about 55 mph.

    I've found through testing that my Fiesta doesn't reach full operating temperature until I've driven about 7 or 8 miles (in the winter). A car won't get its ideal mpg's until the engine reaches its normal operating temperature. So, with your short commute, you're unfortunately getting hit with a penalty there also along with the stop and go driving of city traffic.

    Take it on a road trip and I think you'll be pretty pleased with the numbers you'll be getting on the highway.

    Good luck! ;)
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I never pay much attention the the on board computer read-out indicating the vehicle MPG. I think its never very accurate and the best way to know what kind of Fuel Economy you are getting is simply dividing miles driven by fuel used. I also don`t pay much attention to exactly what speed achieves the best fuel economy either. I drive to the speed limit in city driving plus 5 mph when driving conditions permit and usually drive the speed limit plus 10 mph weather and driving conditions also factored in. I don`t fixate on 1 or 2 mpg changes regardless of what speed I`m traveling at. I just know that the Ford Fiesta "exceeds" the EPA ratings, (when have you seen that lately) while my 2012 Kia Rio5 gets no where near its EPA rating, both vehicle being driven under the same conditions identically. Great Job Ford, not so much Kia. I do notice that the Fuel Level Indicator moves ever so slowly on the Ford Fiesta while the same indicator on the Kia Rio5 starts moving downward as soon as you leave the filling station. 30 miles driven and the indicator has dropped from slightly (over) Full to down an 1/8 of a Tank. I`m sure the same is also true for the Hyundai Accent which uses the identical mechanical components.
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