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2012 Ford Focus

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    You may have issues with bacteria in the vents. Spray some Lysol into where the air enters the HVAC system - probably at the cowl and the run the AC for a while to cirulate it.
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    edited November 2011
    This is another issue w/ my '05-07 Focus. Right after I use recirculating w/ the A/C on, the mildew smell occurs pretty badly, & quite embarrasing since passengers will notice it.

    This mildew smell takes quite some time to go away after the fresh (non-recirculating) air in "A/C-off mode" kept blowing through the system.

    I can avoid this issue simply by not using the A/C & REC buttons the same time.

    My '90 Protege had the exact same problem, but the factory service bulletin took care of it by replacing certain A/C part made of different material. Ford is no Mazda :sick:

    The "sickening plasic smell from the dashboard" is a separate thing those of you in cold climate zones won't experience much. This problem is unavoidable unless I never park the car under sun light, which is impossible here in sunny California.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla MarylandPosts: 701
    ???

    The Focus has heated seats in the SEL, if you select the winter package. And they are multi-level.
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    I live in the Northwest. In the last 2 weeks I noticed 5, yes 5!! new Focus in my neighborhood. 1 SEL sedan, 1 SEL hatch, 3 SE Hatch. I have never seen so many new cars in this short of period. Looks like Ford hit a homerun with this rendition of Focus. Also read Honda is scrambling with the 2013 Civic interior and some updates to counter the Focus. Lets just hope Ford doesn't take their eye of the target and let the Focus fade. Give credit where credit is due.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Honda got caught flat-footed. Same with Toyota, I haven't heard word 1 about a 2012 Corolla. I'm considering the Focus and the Mazda3 SkyActiv right now, depending on how the Kugascape and CX-5 look when they arrive (and depending on when they arrive of course).

    Mazda and Subie are the only ones keeping up with Chevy, Ford, and Hyundai in this class.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,663
    Living in South Florida...that won't really be an issue. Did see an SEL hatch today in the dark gray flecked paint with the 17"alloys and it was nice but did prefer the 16" alloys with the aqua color much better...just brought out the lines of the car better. Sometimes darker isn't always better!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,663
    Yes, the leather was really nice in the SEL I sat in last week...it had a nice feel/smell to it. If the wife likes it above all the other compacts in the market within the next year, a Focus just might end up in our garage. And a Ford has not been in our family since 1976 when we got rid of the worst car we had ever owned hands town...a 1972 Torino Grand Sport...a total piece of garbage which broke down on it's 1st day of ownership, not even able to reach the 7 miles to our house. This new Focus must be good if even a die in the wool Ford hater would even consider it...and it is worth considering!!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,540
    edited November 2011
    A reporter is interested in talking with parents who own a 2011 or 2012 Kia Optima, Kia Sorento, Hyundai Elantra, Ford Focus, Honda Fit, Honda Odyssey, Mazda 5, Subaru Outback, Dodge Durango, or Toyota Sienna. If you are interested in commenting on your experience, please reply to pr@edmunds.com no later than Friday, November 30, 2011 and include your city and state of residence, the model year of your vehicle and the age of your child/ren.

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  • I received a $50 rebate from ford all i had to do is test drive a ford focus and receive a form with a number on it. I went on line 7 weeks ago and did just that. When I called the Ford 800 # they told me they had nothing on file. FORD PRODUCTS ARE FOUND ON ROAD DEAD. Personally i think the dealer gave me false numbers. Heritage Ford.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,663
    edited November 2011
    Did the same thing but my dealer gave me the wrong code...go figure...and were'nt even interested to call me back when I left word I got the correct code from Ford...shows how much they care about a potential customer huh! I spoke to a lady at Ford who gave me the correct code and it came back saying it had to verify it, but it did take it on the computer. So, I guess I'll get my $50 in a few weeks or so.

    Ford, if ya run a promotion, ya gotta learn how to do it right! It ain't that hard now is it!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    I went on ford.com and requested a snail mail brochure...they sent me a $500 rebate that can be combined with the other public rebates...which makes my rebates at $2500 off of the TMV--which sounds ok to me.

    I have yet to apply this theory...so who know what will happen if/when I get to the negotiation point.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    That $500 is called a private offer. When they check your name and address in their computer system, it will come up showing you have that offer.

    Just negotiate your best price before rebates and then apply them after.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    Just negotiate your best price before rebates and then apply them after.

    Yeah, I was going to print out the TMV and try to get under that; once the true bottom is reached I was going to bring out the rebates.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    Look up the dealer invoice price on edmunds.com, add $500 to cover the FDAF fee and that's within $100 of what the dealer pays (not counting the holdback). Subtract all factory rebates and that's most likely the best you can do under normal circumstances. Don't forget to ask up front about the doc fee and figure that into the final cost.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,663
    I also heard if one owns at least 100 shares of Ford stock, the X-plan is available. I'm dollar cost averaging right now to make sure I have much more than that amount id the wife decides on a Focus. If not, definitely think the stock will go up in price especially if they keep hitting home runs which each successive new vehicle. Just wish I had gotten in when Ford was down in the low single digits! Timing is everything! :) Also, when we bought the Mazda back in '05, we also were sent a $500 coupon in an e-mail and were able to use it when we made our deal.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    I also heard if one owns at least 100 shares of Ford stock, the X-plan is available.

    Yep - own 100 shares for 6 months you qualify for X-Plan. We used it when we purchased our Explorer in August.

    BTW - only one X-Plan pin per year.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,717
    I found a Focus with a stick so took it for a short test drive. It was a gray SE sedan with few options but did have cruise and power windows/locks/mirrors, sticker about $18.4k. The shifter and clutch were a pleasure to use, and were smooth in operation even though it has been over a year since I drove a stick. The center armrest was well-placed for keeping my hand on the shifter. The ride was firm but not harsh, and bumps such as expansion joints in highways were felt but muted. Steering firmed up nicely on the highway.

    Comfort-wise, the driver's seat could have used more lumbar support but otherwise fit well. The plastic steering wheel had sharp edges at 10 and 2, so I wonder if it would be comfortable for a long trip. There's thin padding on the front door armrests--but none in the rear (something I noticed also on a Mazda3 Skyactiv Touring). In back, leg room was just sufficient for the sit-behind-me test (5'9"). The high rear seat helps provide thigh support even though the leg room isn't great, also there's enough room to place feet. No limo but fine for short trips for up to 2 medium-sized adults.

    The dash is fairly high so I felt like I was sitting low, even though I raised the driver's seat to close to its maximum height. Controls were a little hard to decipher at a glance, although the HVAC knobs were simple and intuitive (if a bit clacky compared to some other cars). It took the sales rep awhile to figure out how to reset the trip computer, for example, but we finally figured it out. Materials quality was good, except I would have liked a little padding on those rear armrests. Also there were no map lights, but there was one overhead light over the front center console that might do the trick.

    Trunk room was fine, but the rear seat folds in one piece and slants up quite a bit, limiting the usefulness of the folding seat compared to cars (e.g. 2012 Impreza) that have a 60/40 seat with a flat load floor. The sales rep said the SE hatch has a 60/40 seat that folds flat because the rear cushion pulls up. They didn't have any of those in stock so I couldn't check it out, but that alone would put the hatch much higher on my list than the sedan.

    On my short test, I reset the mpg meter when I got onto the freeway and saw 40 mpg the rest of the way, at speeds from 60-65 and including a couple of short stops at traffic lights. So it appears the car would have no problem hitting or exceeding its 36 mpg highway rating.

    Overall I enjoyed how the car drove, and it had enough feature content for me at a reasonable price (dealer's "no haggle" price was $17.4k). However, I think I'd have to go with the hatch to get a practical folding rear seat, and that lists for $1000 more than the sedan I drove. At that price, it will compete with the Mazda3 Skyativ Touring, Impreza, and Cruze Eco among others.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    Backy, whats the difference in milage between a wet DSG and a dry clutch? The Focus SEL HB my wife drove was not inpressed with the Focus transmission.Especially first gear.
    I understand most German cars have a wet tranny, if the difference is small we can forget @$24k and go with anothe vehicle.
    TY,
    Puffin
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,717
    Backy, whats the difference in milage between a wet DSG and a dry clutch?

    The EPA has the manual rated 1 mpg less overall than two standard automatic offerings (not sure what the difference is between them), 30 vs. 31, and 3 mpg less than the special SFE variant with automatic. So not much difference except with the SFE, and that will cost a lot more than a stick since you have to pay for the automatic plus the SFE option. EPA says the fuel cost difference between stick and SFE is $154 a year with its assumptions. Based on that it would take a long time to get payback on the SFE automatic vs. stick. Plus you'd miss out on the fun of driving the stick. :)
  • markus5markus5 Posts: 102
    edited November 2011
    I drove an SE sedan W/ sport-appearance package earlier this year. This group includes soft options as well as rear discs and the select-shift upgrade for automatic equiped models. I think that Ford made one mistake here. They should have included an option to get a Back seat cushion that split and flipped forward w/split seat backs. This arrangement is found in the SEL models and standard in all Hatches what ever model you choose. Just a few months ago when I spoke to a Ford sales Rep about this, at first he could not believe it and then ran out to the lot where a few SE's were parked and we began to disassemble the rear seat. My opinion is that they should have had more attention to detail back there,

    I am partial to the Sedan over the hatchback but I do not want to go to the SEL model level which is expensive and includes certain equipment which I am not interested in. Many reviewers give Focus very high marks is Fun to Drive category, it should be a very good successor to my '04 ZTS sedan, but I am glad I did not jump into it . This launch was not as problematic as the original Focus launch 12 years ago, but it has not been as good as the Ford people would have wanted it to be.
  • Also, If you have ANYONE in your family (or a spouse's family) who works for a Ford supplier in any way, all you have to do is tell them, and you get X-Plan. Now, I am in Detroit Metro area, so ALOT of people here have a family member who works for a supplier, and they may ask for more validation of this fact in other areas...

    It was good for $2000 off a $24000 vehicle here...
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    X plan is approximately $150 over invoice, give or take. It won't save you $2K over what you could negotiate yourself but it could save a few hundred and there is no haggling and the price is the same at every dealer. It also limits the doc fee to $75. The dealer gets a spiff check from Ford for each sale so it's a win/win all the way around. You can also get X plan pins from a Ford employee or if you have 100 shares of Ford stock for more than 6 months.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    Also, If you have ANYONE in your family (or a spouse's family) who works for a Ford supplier in any way, all you have to do is tell them, and you get X-Plan.

    IIRC, Ford employees and supplier employees may get more than 1 PIN per year and are allowed to share. We stockholders - yeah the owners - are only allowed 1.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    I believe Ford employees get 4 or 6 per year to hand out to friends and family. Ford Partners get 2 per year and stockholders only get 1.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    Not fair - we shareholders are the only ones with any skin in the game.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    I can't believe you can get 2k off a Focus,let alone $2400.00. I bought 100 shares of Ford just for that reason .Ford dealers are not dickering with John Q public. I mean just look at the TMV on here.
    I bought 100 shares @ $10.03 and it went to $11.89 then dropped to$10.00 again. I haven't checked it today.I bought it (the stock because of the hit the new Focus made.)
    Now, I drive a BMW 3 series 6spd, wife has a Lexus Is 6 spd. and I can't belive I bought a 2010 5 spd VW Golf loaded. I mean I thought VW's were junk and we bought it, for a Home Depot car. Evidently the V Dub model we bought is the most reliable in it's class.I know hard to believe,but it's so comfortable and has so many standard features, multilevl heated seats 2 MFI's Bluetooth,lumbar you name it.This is a 5cyl 2.5 that gets 34 highway and 20 around town, or better if you can stand driving 35 mph in 5th gear.
    Well, I'm going to try a 6 spd Focus SEL HB and do a TCO and make sure it doesn't have an interfaced engine(timing belt). I'm curious as to the multi link suspension also.
    Back to the Golf in order for me to get the same features with a Focus HB as the VW, you have jump to an SEL model,with 302a pkg and it totals out to $24K .
    Have a good 1 :shades: Puffin
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,996
    Yeah, I guess if Ford doesn't do well the employees that are laid off, the suppliers who go under and corporate bondholders have no skin in the game and won't mind a bit. Buy a $1,000 worth of Ford shares to get $2,000 off on a car and try to convince me you have real skin in the game. You're a thousand dollars ahead before you even sell the stock. If that's skin in the game it's a hangnail.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    Well I own much more than $1,000 worth of Ford and much of it is underwater. I guess I have to buy mutliple cars to earn that back. Hmmm - sounds like the dot com boom - sell at a loss but make up for it in volume.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,996
    I wonder if the Ford stock held in mutual funds counts as stock owership. I'm in a dozen or so stock funds and I'm sure that at least a couple of them have fairly large positions in Ford. I assume it is direct stock ownership that is required but it wouldn't hurt to find out.

    I was really just trying to point out that there are definitely others that have skin in the game when it comes to Ford profits.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,812
    I wonder if the Ford stock held in mutual funds counts as stock owership. I'm in a dozen or so stock funds and I'm sure that at least a couple of them have fairly large positions in Ford. I assume it is direct stock ownership that is required but it wouldn't hurt to find out.

    I doubt it. Ford required that I send them 2 recent statements 90 days apart proving ownership. As for the mutual fund that wouldn't fly. The mutual fund owns the shares so they are the owner of record, not you.

    I was really just trying to point out that there are definitely others that have skin in the game when it comes to Ford profits.

    I realize that. I just find it odd that a supplier employee gets more PIN's than a shareholder.
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