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2012 Ford Focus



  • Acdii, how tall would you say you are? Would you call yourself a long-legged dude (or dudette)?

  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,663
    It's rough getting kids in a car seat without their feet landing on the back of the chairs.

    I think it's the child seat angles they have...the kids are tilted back a bit- as opposed to sitting upright. Even the upright boosters end up on the back on my car seat (IS350)...little legs can't bend so they stick straight out :) I had that in every car i've owned.

    Do they 'fit' in your Fusion?
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    My point is that you only told him the Sport is a 6cyl. There are several EPA ratings for the Fusion and only the base I4 and base V6 were listed in the post you replied to. Stating that the Sport is just a 6 cyl didn't help the OP at all and I was clarifying your information for the OP.

    How was I supposed to know that you knew the Sport had the 3.5L V6 when you didn't take the time to tell us?
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    edited September 2011
    I guess I didn't think it really mattered that much to the discussion. It would only make about a 1mpg difference in the avg v6 epa rating versus the smaller v6. Should have been more clear. Sorry.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,663
    I think the original email said it was a 2010, but no harm.

    I think he'll get the 'average' mpg for a Focus.
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    They fit fine in the Fusion, which was one of the selling points of the car for me. I currently have my dealer looking for a similarly equipped Fusion Hybrid in my price range, as I wrote off the Focus due to the back seat issues.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    "I guess I didn't think it really mattered that much to the discussion. It would only make about a 1mpg difference in the avg v6 epa rating versus the smaller v6."

    I guess if you look at it in terms of raw numbers it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. The way I look at it though is that when you have a Sport you're likely going to flog it more than the base V6 which hurts FE even more than the numbers tell you. If you're not flogging it more then you should have bought something else. ;)

    So yeah, if you trade a Fusion Sport in for a Focus you gain FE but lose the fun factor. If you still want FE, some fun factor, and good comfort then the Fusion I4 is for you IMO.
  • FEHarperFEHarper Posts: 70
    edited September 2011
    I have recently purchased a Ford Fusion 2012, Titanium pkg, after owning 4 VWs, all great handling German cars with good mileage. I prefer the Fusion - better handling - this thing is quiet, corners beautifully with virtually no body lean, gets remarkable good gas mileage - 27 in town, and is SMART. I may be in the minority, but I love the Myfordtouch, sync interface and after some practice, feel like I have a woman who loves me in the dash. The interface is menu driven, a little more complex than is really necessary, but works. Voice recognition works fine but requires familiarity with the commands and when and how to respond (this is critical) - should not a real problem for anyone who can operate a smart phone. Performance for a small 4 cylinder is remarkable as well - just keep it in sport mode. I know the back seat has been a REAL issue for this forum - a little tight, but it depends on who is in the front seat as to how roomy it is. The automatic parallel parking works as advertised - fits into the smallest of spaces without a problem.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    I think you meant Focus, not Fusion.
  • because you talk about the back seat room issue, FEHarper, I also believe that you are talking about the Ford Focus that you bought. Not the Ford Fusion. Thanks for the input nonetheless!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    If you found it quiet, then the VW must have really been noisy. I found the Focus a bit loud, but everything else you mentioned is pretty much like it is. It hugs the curves with nary a roll.
  • Whoops - correct, I meant Focus - so much for late night posts!
  • Well, I just wanted to offer up an opinion on the 2012 Focus.

    I have a 2008 Mazda 3 Sport Hatch. Currently at the local Mazda dealer (also a Ford dealer) for an electrical issue covered by warranty...

    I've had 4 rentals each time the M3 has been there:
    2011 Ford Fusion (in my opinion, a piece of :sick: )
    2011 Ford Crown Victoria (leathered out cop car)
    2011 Mercury Grand Marquis (same thing)
    2012 Ford Focus SEL 5 door

    I'm pretty impressed by the Focus. Drives very well, holds the road, and even in the basic SEL trim (no other options except power moonroof), it's a pretty decent car. Lots of equipment (basic SYNC stereo, dual zone AC, power win/lock/mirror) and mostly easy to use.

    Three issues I've had that would keep the Focus off the shopping list... Two are a Ford fix and the other is just getting used to it...

    BIG ISSUE - the "sport" 6 speed automatic transmission with shift buttons. When in 'drive', the transmission goes into upper gears too quickly - you're in 2nd gear before you cross an intersection from stop. Sometimes, the transmission lurches into gear and it doesn't shift smoothly. This is a Ford fix - they need to reprogram the controllers to not shift so soon.

    Minor issue - the Cruise control. With My Mazda, I turn the cruise on or off with a button, and it's always ready, in "stand by" until I set a speed. With the Focus (with every Ford I've recently driven) the cruise control system shuts off each time you shut the engine off. I have to push the control to turn the system "ON" each and every time and THEN I get to set speed. Ford, can you please just have an "on/off" setting for the cruise, instead...? Just like My Mazda, My 2001 PT Cruiser, My mom's 2002 PT Cruiser and our 1994 Town & Country van...?

    Third issue - have to get used to it - there are WAY TOO MANY buttons, levers, switches and controls on the steering wheel. There are 2 four point controllers with an "OK" button in each - one controls instrument panel display (trip computer, mileage controls, etc.) and the other is for the center console display (setting radio & other functions). Then, on each side of the wheel, there is another 4 way rocker switch - one for the cruise control, one for the radio controls, with a pull "paddle" behind each (cruise is for resume, radio is for voice recognition of SYNC system). There are just too many buttons covering too many functions right there and they're not the easiest to use at first.

    Other than those few things, the Focus is a good car and a great value for the money. From what I've read, stay away from the MyFord Touch system (the bigger touch screen system) for the radio & AC, plus GPS. And there are others that have commented on the transmission shifting issues - with many dealers responding that it's just a "learning curve" - but it's still an annoyance. :confuse:
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    The transmission is different - it's a dry clutch system with two manual transmissions linked together. Most of the problems seem to go away after 1000 miles or so. The dry clutch design makes the tranny smaller and more fuel efficient but it's not as smooth as the wet clutch system. And I'm sure the programming is biased towards mileage.

    Maybe they will come out with new logic that will make it feel smoother. You can put it in S mode (still automatic) and it will hold gears longer and downshift sooner - that makes it better for some.
  • I really doubt Ford will reprogram the tranny for more agressive shifting, especially right now with the focus on fuel mileage.

    I'm a bit more interested in the back story. Did they simply toss the Focus at you? Or did you specifically request it? I'd be surprised that they're using the Focus as loaners, given the supposed shortage and high demand. The SEL is especially hard to come by.

    Maybe Ford finally overcame the supplier hiccups that were hurting production. I am finally seeing more of them on the road now-- probably about 3 or 4 per week, compared to 1 per week less than a month ago.
  • I read your comments about the Myfordtouch with interest. This un-needed and complicated technology is keeping me from buying Ford. According to JD Powers, others agree. I always wanted my computer to be as reliable and user friendly as my car, now Ford has made the car as user-unfriendly and unreliable as the computer. To me, this is a step backward and the only advantage seems to be in advertising.
  • Jim,

    You have valid concerns, and there is a simple fix: don't get the technology. Ford mytouch is only built until the higher trim level (the Focus Titanium). Mytouch is optional with the lower trims (SE and SEL).

    There seems to be a growing misperception that mytouch is standard with all Ford models.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,626
    Has anyone gotten the $50 rebate to test drive a Focus? The website someone gave me in here doesn't work and since we want to test drive the Focus and the Fiesta, might as well get the $50 to do so. Any help would be appreciated! :) I am,

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    edited September 2011
    Can you get everything that is offered in the Titanium as options on the SEL not including mytouch of course? If not, then what if one wants a Titanium version but doesn't want the electronic goblins? I have a feeling it's not even just mytouch but also the SYNC that a lot of people don't like and that is standard on the SE and SEL, no? I really don't know for sure.

    I feel his pain as I really don't like sunroofs. I don't like the lost headroom or the initial and potentially follow on expense. However, it's impossible to get the high end versions of many cars without getting the sunroof in the "package" so I pay my dime and put up with them but don't like it.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    Sync is fine. It's MFT that has issues, although the latest version seems to be quite stable. A totally new version rewritten from scratch will be here in a few months.

    Some people just aren't going to like this type of interface. I expect some minor tweaks but the basics will still be there. You can still get a loaded SEL without it and add the handling package yourself.
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