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2012 Ford Focus



  • I agree the transmission is more like a manual than a traditional auto. The dealer does a horrible job of educating the buyer so ofcourse the buyer is expecting a auto transmission and is very dissapointed.
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    Ford needs the momentum of the Ford Focus to keep going. Ford has a history of resting on its laurels when they have a hit. Now Ford needs to add more to the Focus line-up. Offer a wagon, offer a 2 door coupe, offer a convertible. Offer several performance models/upgrades/trim levels ect... I have to say, look at Kia/Hyundai. They have expanded on their line-ups in break neck speed. Don't rest Ford!!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    Ford has many other things to invest in. New C-Max. New generation Fusion Hybrid. New Escape. New Fusion. New small and large vans. Next gen F150. Focus electric. Plug-in hybrids.

    The market for coupes and wagons is really small and Ford has better things to invest in right now. Maybe down the road.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,626
    Sat in both cars the other day at the dealerships and preferred the dash layout of the Focus a bit more actually...not a bad place to be but the seats were a nightmare for my bad spine. The Jetta chairs were just so much more comfortable and they had a nice perforated leather with upteen adjustments...I found a very comfortable position without too much fuss. I definitely prefer the hatchback style of the Focus over the Golf though...with the right alloys, the Focus hatch is a real looker...job well done Ford! Down here in South Florida, the split seems to be 50/50 sedan/hatch which is what I'd get if in the market right now. I could see out the back pretty easily and the extra versatility would be really nice now. I do like the C-Max very much also and just wondering if it has the auto tranny that so many are complaining about? The mileage figures look very impressive but worry about battery replacement down the line...will the price be so outrageous as to wipe out all the proposed savings of the hybrid? And how long will the batteries last before needing to be swapped out for new ones?
    Watched MotorWeek yesterday and they did a segment on plug-in electric powered cars which was very entertaining and informative. Think a city is the best place for those types of vehicles as there would be more charging station sites available for a quick charge up. Maybe it's time quite hasn't come yet for the American suburbs. But looks very promising for the future though.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    edited November 2012
    I checked out the new Focus ST & C-Max today in the show room.

    The C-Max has more things in common with the new Jetta -- besides the "door armrest too low for the driver's elbow", there's the "lack of high chair for rear passengers", unlike the new or old Focus (or the upcoming Volvo V40, which is still based on the C-1 platform).

    The ST, whether it's the new 2012 or my 2007, has "high rear chair" (except the left corner tapers down somewhat due to bad U.S. workmanship), higher than the Golf's, which is still higher than the new Jetta's.

    This is so annoying. In order to get high chair for the rear, you don't get stretch-out leg room? Or vice versa. At least the old Focus seems to achieve both quite OK.

    By the way, the C-Max hybrid uses CVT tranny.
  • Ok hackattack6....what's to understand? I love my 2012 focus se...bought it in March...I have about 4800 miles on it and the transmission is HORRIBLE!! It shakes..shudders..and I feel like the whole front end is going to fall off! has actually gotten worse! I am going to take it husband talked to the tranny mechanic who said this is normal for this transmission, but give me a feels like I am driving over railroad ties for about 5 to 10 secs upon acceleration. You think that this is normal? I am at my wits end...sorry for venting, but I won't accept this as "normal" glad you love your car....
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    It's not normal. Find another dealer and get it fixed.
  • Shoulda bought the 5 speed. We too bought our's the beginning of the year and with 23k on the odometer to date (yes we commute in this thing like you wouldn't believe!), not one problem to report. Not one. Love this car.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,663
    Shoulda bought the 5 speed

    I'm not certain my wife would accept that solution :)

    I think right now she's thinking she should have bought anything else...Honda, Toyota, VW...
  • kam327kam327 Posts: 115
    Hey all, I've experienced both sides of the story. With 9,200 miles now, I've experienced periods of perfect transmission operation and periods of shuddering and grinding. From other sources I've found that there are two main sources of transmission trouble:

    1) The software
    2) Leaky seals

    If you're having trouble and haven't taken it in yet, definitely take it in ASAP to get the software all updated to the latest. Many have reported a vast improvemet, though mine which was behaving almsot perfect before the latest software update actually behaved a little worse after the update

    There are growing reports of leaky seals which are allowing fluid to get on the dry clutches, causing the shuddering etc. If your software's all up do date, try to force your dealer to investigate the clutch seals.
  • Interesting that you should say stick would of been the answer? Well...I have been driving in the "S" mode which in my owners manual stands for "Sport mode" and there is less of the problem. My daughter says it feels like a manual transmission when she rides in it. If I wanted a stick...I'd of bought one....thanks for your input. :P
  • We took it in after the 1st recall and it seemed a little better and then got worse. Good idea...I will definitely look into software issue. Thanks for the input.... ;)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    The only time my daughter's really feels like a manual is when you're backing up and let off the throttle and there is no engine braking from the torque converter. It still has a jerky shift every once in a while but it's really not that noticeable. She had the first software update but not the second one. Waiting to see if anything else needed to be done.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
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  • Just curios, because if you do you will like it. If you dont you will not like it!

    I like mine whaaahoo!
  • wish mine was that good, going back for 6th time tomorrow for more reprogramming, seems like I take it in the reprogram runs great for 2 weeks then it goes down hill from there, I get the whole transmission thing, but the shaking and shuddering and noise are just not normal, also I only get 27-29 MPG I I do mostly highway driving, going to be getting rid of this crap I cant keep taking it back every 2 weeks to get fixed, Its great for those that got the good ones but for those of us that got the lemons, not so great really disappointed in Ford and the fact that they cant fix this issue for all of us.
  • I get that and the shudder, noise no power in turns etc, been reprogrammed 6 times giving up gong to trade it in this week I hope! Hate the car and every time they fix it it runs great for 2 weeks then its back to bad behavior. I also only get 27-29 MPG on mostly HWY driving, cant use the avg it shows you that's crap, have to do the math. Very disappointed bought car for gas mileage and it sucks.... Ford lied about that
  • Going back to have it checked again tomorrow 6 times already reprogramming last 2 weeks and then it goes down hill from there I cant take my car in every 2 weeks to have it reprogrammed, car is crap
  • cant go by that avg on monitor, you have to do the math, miles per tank / gallons of gas you put in, My avg says, 32-42 at times and when I do the math I get 27-29 mpg, ford lied about gas mileage and car runs like crap, reprogramming #6 tomorrow, then going to trade it in cant deal with having to take it in every 2 weeks to be fixed and get crap gas mileage
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,626
    Sorry to hear of your problems with your car...test drove a couple last year and was so unimpressed that we took it off our short list. It seems to be not that great of a car. Have heard more negative than positive so we're concentrating on foreign brands exclusively now...had have good luck with our past models!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

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