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How Much Is Brand Legacy Worth To You?



  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,887
    Went to the shop for an oil change today, and what was sitting outside but a 2000-2002 S500, sport package, nice color...with failed front suspension. Butt was somewhat up in the air and the nose was low. Not a flattering pose.
  • I have a 2000 Mercedes Benz and mine air suspension went out in mine. First thing i did was get rid of the air. I couldnt stand it . Caused more problems you will know what to do with. Replacing air bags was getting old. I went to and got a conversion kit cost be around 1 thousand but its better than 6 thousand. I just couldnt beat the lifetime warranty. So relieved not to worry about them air bags again!!
  • I have a 2000 Mercedes Benz S600 and mine went out about a month ago. I went to , they had a conversion kit to convert my vehicle. I bought that! Highly recommended came with my lifetime warranty too. The system is great now. You should check them out. The ride is just as great as before the air went out.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,379
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,476
    edited December 2010
    Take EVERY oems model, variant, even newer generations of "proven" existing models with HUGE grains of salt ! Almost all of them follow the faster hit the "RESET" button paridigm of quickest concept to market cycle time.
  • ken117ken117 Posts: 178
    IMHO buying a high priced brand really makes little sense, other than making a person feel superior to those driving a standard brand! In reality, a Caddy is simply an overpriced Chevy, a Lexus an overpriced Toyota. Most of the extras on the high priced brands are more or less unnecessary. More importantly, having purchased vehicles for thirty plus years, I find I can always get a much better deal at a standard brand, such as Honda, than I can at the high priced brand, Acura. High priced dealers seem to think they are entitled to more simply because of the brand. Personally, I find the money I save buying a standard brand over a high priced brand allows me to provide more to my kids, such as a quality education. I find more self-fulfillment in that than I ever would driving a Caddy!
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,476
    edited December 2010
    Indeed. One also pay TAXATION through the nose for that feeling ! (in a lot of cases it is a form of justice). In CA, this county has a 9.25% sales tax. The county contiguous, has a 9.75% ST. One also continues to pay throughout the tenure of ownership. I would not put it past CA to go back to the fees in lieu of asset tax !
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,011
    Thanks for clearing that up...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • For the past 11 years I have owned a Toyota 4runner. I have loyally the brand and had wanted to buy another 4 runner. Last week the 4Runner died with 270K miles. I can say I did get my moneys worth from the vehicle. When I started to shop for the replacement it was apparent that non of the manufacture have produce a more fuel efficient SUV in 11 year. My 2000 4Runner could get 16 to 19 MPG. The only SUV which could get greater mileage and provide the same lilt compatibility only get an est 19 MPG. so my loyalty to any single manufacture is gone for ever.

    car less in Washington DC
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,476
    edited January 2011
    GOOD/BAD news !?

    I do not want to rain on anyone's parade, but 270,000 miles is far too little miles. To me that falls into the category of premature death. You do not provide details beyond what I have concluded but it would seem the best course is to have it fixed, repair, etc. I sold a 87 TLC with 250,000 miles and after about a years time the person that bought it tracked me down again (yeah, that was my reaction too,... STALKER) Finally he just left a message. It was: if you are planning to sell ANY of your vehicles, would you call me first.....
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,118
    You say your 4runner died. How did it die? What happened?
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,195
    Yeah, cause of death would be really useful here.

    We have an 00 Accord that we bought new. My oldest daughter drives it now with more than 200K on the clock. Now to some folks this car would be totaled if out ran out of gas but I'll likely be good for another timing belt on it and keep it rolling.

    What constitutes death at this point probably varies a great deal from person to person.
  • Yep, I most definitely feel that status comes with an emblem and would choose a Caddy over a Chevy simply because it's a Cadillac! The symbol is beautiful and oozes status. But, don't think I'm completely shallow! I just purchased a GMC yesterday BUT if money were no object I'd have gone for the Caddy. :)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,916
    "Jeep plans to expand its line in the 2016 model year with an SUV that accommodates seven adults comfortably, Edmunds has learned.

    The model, which is expected to carry the Grand Wagoneer name, will be aimed at current Jeep owners and SUV owners who still require seven-passenger seating but no longer need a full-size SUV."

    Seven-Passenger Jeep Grand Wagoneer in the Works
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,578
    edited February 2013
    Seems to me that if you want an SUV that will seat seven adults in comfort, then you have no choice BUT to get a full-sized SUV! Last time I checked, stuff like the Tahoe, Expedition and their offshoots have a third row seat that's intended mainly for kids, and you really need a Suburban or the extended version of the Expedition, if you want an adult-sized third row.

    What I'd like to see is for them to take the Ram, and turn it into an SUV. Heck, they could dust off the RamCharger name!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,916
    edited February 2013
    Not a bad idea. Stick a diesel in it - Sergio says the Wrangler will get one, so Dodge may as well offer one too.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,916
    "With so many car shopping and research websites and an overall improving inventory of vehicles, consumers often broaden their searches before making a choice. While nearly two-thirds of car buyers start out with a brand in mind, just one in five actually buy that brand, according to a 2012 Compete/Polk/TNS study."

    Akerson wants GM to sell vehicles online (Detroit News)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,916
    "Younger buyers are living in a more crowded market than their parents, according to Rick Wainschel, vice president for automotive insights at With more options available, they consider more brands, sometimes doubling the number of vehicles they are considering by the time they make a decision."

    Online Help to Pick a Car and Make the Down Payment (NY Times)
  • Wow, online begging! You don't even have to get cold hanging out on a street corner. :)
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,578
    "Younger buyers are living in a more crowded market than their parents, according to Rick Wainschel, vice president for automotive insights at"

    In many respects, that is true. For instance, back in the 1970's, if you wanted a midsized car, you had plenty of nameplates to choose from, probably moreso than today. But, essentially it boiled down to a GM product, a Chrysler product, a Ford product, or if you wanted to be different, an AMC Matador. So, even though you had a wide array of body styles, nameplates, engines, colors, etc, it was still just four basic cars.

    But today, in addition to GM, Ford, and Chrysler, we have the Accord, Camry, Altima, Mazda 6, Elantra, Optima, and probably one or two I'm missing.
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