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2011 Ford Explorer

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  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    AND, NHTSA investigated fully, and determined it was the faulty Firestone tires that caused the rollovers. IE; the Explorer did not roll over on other brands. WWest hates Fords, so his bias always defaults to blame Ford.
  • He must have a lot of time on his hands. I started to review this forum in order to get information on buying one of these vehicles. WWEST has made this another useless forum. Unless the moderators correct incorrect inforamtion on the posts there is no reason to visit here to gather information.

    I do know that the new Explorer could not be different than the old one. So far what I have seen it like night and day.
  • WWest knows the problems were not with the Explorer but with the Firestone tires. Firestone recalled tens of thousands of their tires as a result of this issue and settled law suits running into the millions.

    He has posted similar disinformation on other sites in regard to other issues as well. Worse; he has sometimes made recommendations to people to make modifications or alterations to their vehicles that would void the warranty, damage their vehicle and/or compromise their safety.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,695
    edited August 2011
    If you buy the crossbars and want to install them yourself, I can you some installation hints.
    You can pop the rear rail covers off without a screwdriver.
    Just pull them straight up form the back.
    If you look at the sliders that connect the cross bars from the front or back, they have an 'H' shape.
    One vertical part of the goes inside the rail and the other outside.
    I tried to put the whole piece except the nubs that connect the cross bars inside of the roof rails. Big mistake.
    The crossbars have the word 'Front' and 'Back' lightly embossed on the top right side.
    If you do it right, it's about 15 minute job.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,818
    Andy - what color are the cross bars? Also how are they shaped and what diameter? I have a Yakima roof box I want to use and the Yakima site shows it will work with the factory bars before I order.

    It seems no dealer has them in stock so I can look at them.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,695
    The cross bars are black and are kind of tear drop shaped from the front edge to the back.
    The have a bit of a bow shape from side to side.
    They look just like This
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,818
    Thanks. Have you attached anything to them yet?
  • Does anyone know if Ford is going to increase production for MY 2012 or keep it controlled as is since it's working for them, rolling out more limiteds than xlt's along with high margin options?

    Glad to see they are a healthy company and am happy to wait for the new model to get kinks worked out.
  • occupant1occupant1 Posts: 408
    edited August 2011
    It's irritating to me, because all we want is a Kona Blue XLT with 201A, power liftgate, and we're still on the fence whether to wait for the unknown quality EcoBoost or take the known quantity of the V6. No leather allowed. That's why we can't get a Limited (which has the power liftgate and the 201A package goodies).

    I've found them here and there. Luckily Texas Ford dealers have a site where you can search them all, so if there's one just right way out in El Paso or down in McAllen, I'll be able to see it easily!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    That is up to the dealers as to what they order. If the dealers want more limiteds then that's what Ford will build.

    If you want something specific just have the dealer order it exactly the way you want it. Should only take 5-8 weeks.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    edited August 2011
    Has anybody read the review on MT?

    I've been following reviews since I was young...never read such a scathing review. I got the distinct impression that if they had the opportunity they would do the folks at Ford bodily harm for producing such a terrible product.

    This was the review with the Ecoboost

    I haven't compared the Explorer to the competition...are there only fans here or do some agree with that review?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    edited January 2011
    Apparently Ford refused to pay for the TOTY award and now they're seeking retribution. There is no other good explanation for their vitriole. MT is the last magazine I'd use for an objective review (not that the rest are much better).

    Their first drive impression was good (before the TOTY contest). After the TOTY contest it did a 180.

    Go drive it yourself and make up your own mind.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I'm skeptical myself.... I'm in the market for a 2012 Limited myself right now, and am going for the 6. 1 more mpg is not nearly enough incentive to pay $995 more for the 4cyl Eco, with less power and more risk.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,695
    edited August 2011
    MT locked themselves into hating it after their first review.
    If you opt for the upgraded electronics, there is a learning curve, just because there are so many ways to do things.
    For example, with MyFord Touch, if you want to change the fan speed, you can use the rotary knob, the main screen after bringing up the climate control view, the screen to the right on the speedometer using the steering wheel control buttons, or by voice control.
    Also, the seating position is different than a lot of other vehicles, so you sit more upright. If you are like me and put the seat in low position, the leg room seems cramped, the door sill seems high and there is a ton of headroom.
    I raised the seat, never have done this before, and it becomes more normal.
    Look at the incentives, which one has the least?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,695
    I have a pretty big Thule cargo box. It's about 7 ft long, weighs 44lbs and holds 18 cubic feet.
    Had a lot of problems with it moving around the first time I used it, better but still figuring it out after the second time.
  • a4b5a4b5 Posts: 17
    Do you have the link to this site where you can search all dealer inventory? Looking for a 4wd explorer in TX and am having trouble finding anything.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,547
    edited October 2011
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  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,547
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  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Most (st,d)ealers, at the beginning/introduction of a new model, year, etc, will only order fully loaded models initially... and why not...

    But it could be that those (st,d)dealers have now found that a Ford Explorer on a FWD "base" (Taurus X, FreeStyle) is a bit if a hard sell. In that case it is much easier to sell "stripped" down, "CHEAP", models to the unwary, unknowledageable.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,547
    edited November 2011
    Please, let's not continue down this line any more. No one is going to change anyone's mind around here anyway.

    Real life incidents don't appear to support the arguments. When the NHTSA weights in, we can open a whole topic devoted to the subject. Or heck, knock yourselves out over in 4WD & AWD systems explained.

    Back on topic, is anyone test driving or buying a new Explorer?

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  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    Back on topic, is anyone test driving or buying a new Explorer?

    Yes, drove one (ecoboost) as a potential replacement for our 2005 mini-van.

    I loved how it drove, and the very generous head room (6'3"). I thought the dash interface that everybody hates was very intuitive and easy to use. I was expecting something harsh and buzzy but was very surprised how refined it was.

    The price just ended up too high when we added all the options...even with the rebates...or more accurately you can get a new mini-van equipped better, for cheaper; if you're so inclined to go the mini-van route that is :)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    edited November 2011
    Irrespective of what Willard said, the Explorers are flying off the lots faster than Ford can make them, so I don't think they're much of a hard sell.

    And, thusly, I recently bought one for the Misses, have almost 5,000 miles on it, and two road trips. It is the Limited with everything you can get. I love the Touch that some people are "touchy" about, although, true to the maker who provides it (Microsoft), it does crash once in a while, but will reboot if you restart the car and give it a minute. It's easy to use, attractive, and very functional. As for the drive, it's amazing. Compared to the other 7 Explorers we have owned, it's a dream to drive on a trip. Even after an 800 mile day, I feel fine. It's larger than the former model, quite a bit wider. Plenty of power out of the six, don't know about towing yet. May suck then, we'll see. Transmission is buttery smooth. It's actually quieter than my Lexus! I don't know how they did that. 0 wind noise. Very little road noise. Excellent quality inside, leather is rich and substantial, seats very supportive. Third row is extremely versatile. I had my doubts about a FWD platform, but am pleasantly surprised. We'll see how it holds up. My experience has varied with the other 7 I have had. Some have gone for 140,000 miles without a major issue, others not so much. I still believe Ford has the best SUV design first every time, others then copy it. But the Asian makes usually last longer, go further with fewer issues. Still, I buy the Fords because of their engineering and design. And what don't I like about it? The doors open to about 80 degrees, really wide, and they hit my other car in the garage! Grrrrrr. Nice when you're loading the grandbaby in the car seat, murder on the paint of the neighbor..... ;)
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,547
    Too bad they don't make sliding doors an option on SUVs. So much more practical. Too much stigma I suppose.

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  • texasford.com

    basically you search by your zip code and it'll bring up the closest dealers, much like on the ford.com site, but in the dropdown box, EVERY Ford dealer in Texas is listed, in order, by distance from where you are. You'll also discover there's a LOT more Ford dealers in places you never knew existed!

    I'm just excited the EcoBoost is available. And even on a base model with no other options. $30100 MSRP. But after my wife rented a 2010 Explorer Eddie Bauer for the last month, she's dead set on heated seats and other goodies so we're probably looking at a 205A package XLT or a Limited of some sort. Good news is better color choices and availability with those.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Then it's not an SUV, Steve!! It's a Minivan, which agreed, is probably the ultimately practical people hauler. But not much good for 4WD.
  • I also bought a Ford Explorer limited earlier this year. It seems like people either love or hate the vehicle. For us, we absolutely love this vehicle! Very roomy and very comfortable. The only real issue that we have had thus far is that the ABS module shorted out for some unknown reason. It didn't seem <>to affect anything except make some indicators on the console light up. But it was fixed and repaired and nothing else has happened since then. The sync occasionally has trouble understanding my speech, but it's not a regular thing so we're not concerned about it. We are awaiting the update that will be sent after the 1st of the new year with the improvements. Overall, very happy with the vehicle.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,547
    Yeah, but think how practical a high clearance SUV would be if you could get sliders on it. And instead of one AWD choice you'd have lots of AWD and 4WD choices.

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  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,690
    Practical but ugly.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    But think of how ridiculous it would look!! Plus, think of the body creak it would have going off road without that B pillar support in the middle. OMG!

    :surprise:
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