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2011 Ford Explorer

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  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited April 2011
    The addition of rear drive capability to a base FWD vehicle is ALWAYS a wise move, can be helpful even in a light rain, life-saving even. More especially so with engines over 200HP.
  • blevinsdblevinsd Posts: 4
    Ford is not building black SUVs or trucks -- can't get pigment from Japan !
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    There are some available that have not been sold yet.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Yeah, maybe they aren't doing that color anymore, but there are Tuxedo Black Explorers out there, including the one we have in our garage.

    -Brian
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    Go to the dealer you prefer and negotiate the deal based on them finding the one you want. You will probably have to pay $3-400 for them to do the exchange (transport costs). You could also just order one and wait for it.

    The Tuxedo Black is hard to find because as already noted, something in that paint color comes from Japan and they can't get it.

    Good luck.
  • I notice that when I accelerate in my 2011 Ford explorer, that I can feel the vibration in the accelerator and in my steering wheel. Is this normal?

    The closest vehicle that I can compare this to is my 2007 Toyota RAV4. I don't seem to have this issue.

    Maybe because of the bigger vehicle and engine, as compared to the explorer, maybe this is normal.

    Thanks
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited April 2011
    I can't say about the vibration in the accelerator but the stearing wheel vibration is likely due to the fact that when you are accelerating from a low speed the rear drive is TIGHTLY coupled in. Then, with even the slightest disparaty in rear wheel circumference vs the front wheels (unequal tire pressure?), or even a slight off-center turn of the steering wheel, you might encounter/feel a bit of driveline windup and/or tire scrubbing/hopping.

    SOP for 4WD engagement on tractive, non-slippery, surfaces.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    I can't say about the vibration in the accelerator but the stearing wheel vibration is likely due to the fact that when you are accelerating from a low speed the rear drive is TIGHTLY coupled in.

    I'd say it's just the nature of the 3.5 v6. My wife has an '11 Taurus with the 3.5 and I've noticed a bid of vibration on acceleration through the pedal. My 07 Expedition does the same thing. Fords just tend to have a bit of a graininess in their powertrains.

    In both the Expedition and Taurus, I notice the slight vibration in the 2,500 rpm range while accelerating only. The Taurus is just FWD, but the Expe does it regardless of being in 2wd, 4wd, or auto mode.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The addition of rear drive capability to a base FWD vehicle is ALWAYS a wise move, can be helpful even in a light rain, life-saving even. More especially so with engines over 200HP.

    Absolutely right, really helps ameliorate the torque steer in the more powerful models. Just rented a Flex in Florida a couple of weeks ago. FWD. Was fine until I put it all the way down to merge, and the front end got totally squirly. If it were AWD, that would have hardly been noticed at all.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Not just to overcome torque stear(***) but much more importantly to prevent ALL of that engine torque under acceleration from being applied to a single set of tires, tires that you also rely upon for directional control.

    ***More and more these days it seems EPS, Electric Power Stearing, is being used, biased against, torque stear.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    AWD....would have hardly been noticed at all.

    And with RWD or R/awd NONE at all.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Given that these cars are all DBW, no mechanical connection to the engine, my guess would be that the vibration is being felt via the heel of your foot on the floorboard.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    Given that these cars are all DBW, no mechanical connection to the engine, my guess would be that the vibration is being felt via the heel of your foot on the floorboard.

    I was driving my wife's Taurus today and it's noticeable at approximately 2,500rpm while accelerating. I notice it most through my right foot that is on the gas pedal. I'm sure it can be felt through the floorboard too, but I must say it's a very slight vibration. The engine just feels slightly coarse while under a decent load (1/4 throttle or so), once it revs past 2,800rpm or so it goes away and it not noticeable once at cruise speed. I don't know what gear ratio the Explorer uses, but the Taurus at 2k rpm in 6th gear is going 80 mph.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    Toyota might have better damping mounts. In a RAV4 , if you replace all 3, the parts are up to about $400.
    Like WW recommends, I would make sure the tire pressures are in the correct range and balanced.
    Fords have really tight drivetrains and it can take a long time for it to break in.
    Do a web search for any similar issues with other new gen Explorers.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    Fords have really tight drivetrains and it can take a long time for it to break in.

    My wife has only had the Taurus 3 weeks, so she's put about 1600 miles on it so far. Maybe it will smooth up a bit as a few more miles are put on it.

    My brother has a '10 Fusion Sport with the same 3.5 v6 and it seems smoother to me. Though it doesn't have a different platform.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    When I say a long time, I mean about 10k miles.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    When I say a long time, I mean about 10k miles.

    Well that will probably take about 3 months.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    That takes me a bit less than year now. I divide up my mileage between several different vehicles. My kids are away at school, so I put some mileage on what they drive while they are away.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    I've seen a couple of those on the road and black is a great color.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Indeed. Now if it'd only stop raining so I can get some wax/polish on it. I am eager to try out the new ArmorAll Ultra Shine stuff.

    -Brian
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