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2011 Ford Explorer

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  • iwant12iwant12 Posts: 269
    Is there an option to delete the 3rd row? And why not? Thank you and Merry Christmas.
  • Thanks for the response Marielle. Unfortunately I pre-ordered the explorer last week with the moon roof option after my FOrd salesman told me it was similar to the vista roof in the Flex. It seems that is not true at all from what you are saying. It would be great if I could find a competent salesman just once!
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Your salesman was VERY competent, he told you what you wanted to hear and closed the deal..!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    edited December 2010
    I don't want to speak for anyone else, but if you don't need the 3rd row, there is always the Edge.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    edited December 2010
    I couldn't link to the picture I wanted to, but the Flex has a front moonroof, 2 sky windows for the 2nd row and a big panel for the 3rd row.
    Is this what you wanted?
  • steevosteevo Posts: 330
    Checked out a new Explorer. Didnt like the cargo area behind the third row seat. When folded down, the way it would be for me most of the time, it creates a flat load floor right to the tailgate. To open the seat, the entire load floor from the tailgate forward is part of the seat changes to a well. So, you then would put "stuff" in the hole. Now, you have to remove all that stuff to refold the seat.
    Typically, most vehicles would have some bit of fixed load floor between the rearmost seat and the tailgate.
    I guess this is more similar to the way it would be in a minivan??
  • it would have been nice if that is what the explorer had as well, but i am ok with the way that it is in the explorer as well. I just was not happy that the salesman told me incorrect information. The moonroof in the explorer is nothing like what is in the flex.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,736
    I guess this is more similar to the way it would be in a minivan??

    Very much so. My 2000 Odyssey has a hole like that.

    The well behind the third seat then keeps groceries and other cargo from rolling around on the floor of the vehicle.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,665
    It does 2 things - it gives you a totally flat load floor with the seats folded without having to physically remove the seats and it gives you much more cargo capacity with the 3rd row up. That was always a complaint on the previous Explorer and Aviator.

    Are you planning to carry something all the time that would be in the way when you fold and unfold the 3rd row? I guess I don't understand the issue or the alternative design.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    Especially with a new design, I try to do my own research.
  • When is the new Ford Explorer with the Ecoboost option scheduled to be released. There is conflicting news articles about the estimated fuel economy. I have read that the ecoboost model will be a 30% improvement from the 2010 model and I have also seen articles that say the ecoboost will improve the 2011 model's epa by 30%

    If it is a 30% improvement on the 2010 model it will only increase the fuel economy by one mile per gallon on the current 2011 models being released.

    If it is 30% improvement of the 2011 model it would put the hwy epa somewhere around 30.

    Big difference.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited December 2010
    The reality of the matter is that Ecoboost engine sacrifice HP/torque for FE. The only time the engine compression ratio is within "reason" for a DFI engine is under BOOST. And other than the "boy-racer" mentality market that will be pretty rare indeed.

    A DFI enegine can have a compression ratio as high as 12:1. The EcoBoost engine, otherwise, previously known, as the TwinForce Gas-Guzling Gas-HOG, must be run in derated/detuned mode, substandard CR, the ~98% of the time you are simply in "cruise" mode.

    The 30% number Ford is touting is an apples to oranges comparison. Yes, the EcoBoost I4 engine can match the HP/torque output of the non-DFI V6 while also equaling its FE. But the I4, of the V6 w/DFI, could have even better FE with a standard base compression ratio were it not necessary to provide for BOOST.

    Ford = EcoBoost, magicians trick....."look over here, not over there"...STUPID...!!

    Sorry, no, they're taking it for granted that the SUV buying public is STUPID.

    And you known, looking around at the mostly non-functional F/awd systems they might well be correct.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    speaking of fuel economy, check out this video to find out about it under racing conditions
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Most of us, probably the clear majority of us, will NEVER race ANY EcoBoost/(TwinForce) engine. Sso we will NEVER be able to run the engine in the most optimal mode, HIGH BOOST mode, FE wise, more than maybe 1% of the time.

    EcoBoost/(TwinForce), Ford's latest LOOSER...!!

    No, sorry, that's just WRONG..! Ford's latest LOOSER would be taking the FreeStyle/Taurus X body/frame/drive train and putting the Explorer label on it.

    A FWD Explorer...REALLY...?

    Sorta like a Jeep Compass FWD, who cares...?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    edited December 2010
    At first, I was skeptical of the '11 Explorer. but I am not ready to rule it out.
    I love my '02, but we have had good luck with our '04 and '09 Escapes and '07 Fusion AWD.
    The negatives from my POV are it's kind of big and if fuel prices rise, I am not sure I would give up my '02 EB V8 for a few extra mpg.
    I would miss the EB trim, too.
  • steevosteevo Posts: 330
    This is simply an attempt to explain my issue, it is not a big deal.
    All other trucks I have ever owned or seen, including the old Explorer, Pathfinder, Pilot, Expedition, the seats fold flat into the floor without creating a rear well.
    SO. If you need to temporarily use the third row, when you open it in the New Explorer, all your equipment now goes into the "well". Now, you need to fold the seat back down to put more stuff inside, and you have to empty the well before you can fold the seats down.
    If, for example, you need to shove a large cooler into the truck , in the other trucks you could simply fold down one half of the rear seats and shove the cooler in. In the new explorer, you would first have to "empty the well" then reload.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,736
    All other trucks I have ever owned or seen, including the old Explorer, Pathfinder, Pilot, Expedition, the seats fold flat into the floor without creating a rear well.

    The well area is where the spare tire is stored in all those vehicles. Honda had the first well in minivans for the magic seat. Since then, it's become the standard in minivans. Honda stores the spare between the first two rows.

    I deal with emptying the well when needing to drop the third row. Personally, I prefer the well as it keeps things from moving around the back of the vehicle.
  • steevosteevo Posts: 330
    I guess it all depends on weather you are looking for utility with the added plus of being able to add an extra passenger or two... or.. a 7 passenger people mover with the added plus of being able to get the seats out of the way once in a while for utility.
    The new explorer is now a cool looking mini-van. :D
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,665
    I guess it depends on how much crap you plan to haul around in the cargo area behind the seats. If you always have stuff back there then it's a pain, but the tradeoff is more cargo area with the seats up and down.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,736
    I fall into the latter - I need a 7 seater with the ability to haul stuff when needed. Although we only have two kids, I'm a scout leader and haul plenty of boy and girl scouts on trips. The gear can always fit into the roof box.
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