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  • Karen@EdmundsKaren@Edmunds Posts: 5,028 Offers Live Webcast of Thought-Provoking “Truly Safe?” Car Safety Conference

    SANTA MONICA, Calif. — May 20, 2011 —, the premier online resource for automotive information, today released the live webcast link for its first-ever Automotive Safety Conference on Tuesday, May 24. A live stream of the conference, which will feature counter-intuitive insights from fascinating researchers as well as updates from the safety establishment, will be available online at

    Viewers watching the conference online will also have the opportunity to participate by sending questions or comments. Conference moderators will accept feedback and questions at before and during the webcast. Viewers are also encouraged to post their thoughts on Facebook at or by tweeting @edmunds using the #safetycon hashtag.

    The safety conference promises to examine the issue of automotive safety from several new – and perhaps controversial – perspectives. Some of these visionary ideas, which are also documented in’s Car Safety Library, include:

    · “The principles of "shared space" challenge many long-standing assumptions about the meaning of safety, and the use of familiar highway engineering such as traffic signals, curbs and barriers.” (Ben Hamilton-Baillie, Architect, urban designer and movement specialist)

    · “Having your eyes on the road is not the same as having your brain focused on the road. And the health of the driver is an important factor, as the perfectly healthy 75-year-old is far more capable of driving a car than a 60-year-old suffering from Type 2 diabetes or cardiovascular disease and taking medication that would affect cognition, decision making, speed of processing.” (Bryan Reimer, Associate Director of the New England University Transportation Center and Research Scientist in the Massachusetts Institute of Technology AgeLab)

    · “While evaluating the effectiveness of new high-tech crash avoidance features, we need to remember that other, lower-tech road design, traffic law, and vehicle improvements also can prevent crashes and injuries.” (Adrian Lund, President of Insurance Institute for Highway Safety)

    A full schedule and list of speakers at next Tuesday’s safety conference can be found at

    Karen-Edmunds Community Manager

  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    We don't drive too fast backwards, but others are driving fast towards the back of our cars all the time.
    I have a Mazda 5 and my kids ride on the rear-most seats often. They are just a few inches from the rear door. I do not know of any evidence that this car or any other car was ever tested for protection against a rear end collision.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    "A bill was introduced in the U.S. Senate Monday that would revamp the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) powers and increase minimum penalties the agency can charge an automaker for ignoring a safety defect that leads to a recall."

    NHTSA Overhaul Bill Introduced In Senate (AutoObserver)
  • I bought a car for a friend and did all the work to be safetied it .. great safety... she couldnt' take the car as she lives in toronto and doesn't have 30,000 for a parking spot so i drove car for 2wks i love it but have a decided to sell it before safety was up. long story short sold the car...they test drove it loved it bought it...drove away with it... 4days later i get a call that they did a bunch of work on it and they want 617 bucks from me.. said they needed ball joints and alignment etc and brake lines were rusty (not wet not leaking) but they wanted them replaced so they did it) and now they want me to pay for everything!!! what the heck... first they said they want 200 then i get a call they want 617. the total bill... my question the time my safety was done it was done right.... a GOOD SAFETY and now they want more 3weeks later.... do i have to pay this or is the safety good for 36days to "resell or license" it or is it good for items to be fixed..please help..he is treatening to go to MTO and sue the dealership that did safety???
  • Claire@EdmundsClaire@Edmunds Chicago areaPosts: 968
    edited August 2011
    Hi, djsherrib,

    The folks in the Questions About Private Sale Transactions Forum will probably have some answers for you. Just click the link to get there.

    ClaireS, Host
    Automotive News & Views | Coupes & Convertibles



  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    "Toyota detailed a 5-year, $50-million commitment to a variety of collaborative safety research projects and brought some of its new safety-research partners and the media to tour a sprawling new $38-million technical center near Ann Arbor, MI, built to enhance the company’s safety-testing capabilities." tml">Toyota Pledges $50M For New Safety Research (AutoObserver)
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,011
    I'd think it would be cheaper for Toyota to simply give their septuagenarian customers a refresher course on the the difference between(and the relative locations of) the brake pedal and the accelerator.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    "Hybrid vehicles do a better job of protecting occupants in crashes compared to conventional vehicles, according to a new study.

    The odds of being injured in a crash are 25 percent lower for people in hybrids than non-hybrid models, said the Highway Loss Data Institute."

    Hybrids Have Safety Edge in Crashes, Study Says (Inside Line)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    A freelance writer is working on a story about roadside emergency kits for an insurance company magazine. She’s looking for a good, personal example of why you need an emergency kit in your car -- or about that time you really you wish you'd had one. If you’d like to be interviewed, please send a brief overview of your story to Jenny at by 12/10/11.
  • 0patience0patience Posts: 1,542
    My service truck is considered a commercial truck, so I am required by law to carry flares. :shades:
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    "A new frontal crash test may prod automakers to build safer vehicles.

    In the test, 25 percent of a car's driver-side front end strikes a 5-foot-tall rigid barrier at 40 miles per hour, with an average-size male dummy belted into the driver's seat.

    The test is designed to replicate what happens when the front corner of a car collides with another vehicle, or with an object such as a tree or a utility pole."

    New crash test may prompt safer cars (Detroit News)
  • There are a number of safety guidelines and laws explaining the dos and donts of driving in the rains. But are these laws followed properly? If yes, then how could so many people hurt or even lose their lives because of improper driving in the rains?
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,011
    There are a number of safety guidelines and laws explaining the dos and donts of driving in the rains. But are these laws followed properly? If yes, then how could so many people hurt or even lose their lives because of improper driving in the rains?

    Laws have very little to do with it- the cause is sheer lack of driving ability. True driver training in the US is virtually non-existent, which is why I sent my son to a two day professional driving school as well as to the BMW CCA Foundation's Street Survival course.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,621
    "If you pack a fragile item in a strong box it is more likely to reach its destination without breaking."

    Performed poorly in test: Mercedes, Audi, Lexus, Lincoln, etc.

    Only cars to do well: Volvo S60 and Acura TL

    This 3 minute video is interesting to watch as some expensive cars seems to do a poor job at protecting occupants....
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    "Nearly 4 percent of the nation's motor vehicles were involved in a car crash in 2010, a new government report says.

    The report also notes that the last decade saw a big jump in light trucks, especially SUVs, on the nation's roads, but showed little difference in fatality risks among people in cars and SUVs."

    Fatality rate drops for crashes in passenger vehicles (Detroit News)
  • Hello,

    I currently own a 2003 Jeep Liberty that is coming up on 180K miles. If safety were not an issue, I'd probably drive it until it dies, but I recently moved to the Miami area and am concerned about the high rate of accidents here in South Florida.

    After shopping around a bit, I am leaning towards a used Volvo XC90 from around 2009 (Consumer Reports says to avoid the 2010 model, and I wouldn't necessarily let that stop me, but it is probably out of my price range.) Safety, a comfortable driving experience (I am in outside sales and sometimes spend 5+ hours per day in my car), and a price at around $20K if I am not gaining any fuel economy over the Jeep, are my 3 main priorities. I am leaning towards a white 8cyl AWD model if I can find one in that range.

    My main question: Over the past 5 or so years, what is the safest car across all categories? I have viewed the IIHS top picks, but they are broken down into different classes of cars. I am looking for a vehicle (likely a Volvo), that will provide the best protection in a highway accident and have been leaning towards the XC90 as it is big, heavy, and has Volvo's safety features.

    Thank you for any insight you can provide!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    Not sure if you all have seen this. It is worth the time to watch.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    edited January 2013
    "Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the only Republican still in President Barack Obama's first-term Cabinet, said Tuesday he plans to leave the Obama administration."(Idaho Statesman)
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    I don't think she would take the job. You do mean Stein???
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    oops, mean to say "oh Joan".

    As in Joan Claybrook.

    Had to look Stein up, but yeah, she has possibilities. :D
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