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Buick Verano



  • robtroxelrobtroxel Posts: 103
    I'd like to hear too. I don't like the MSRP when you load on up with all options
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    Although when you compare it to other premium small cars, it has a bargain price. Look at an Acura TSX or FWD Audi A4 and it is a screaming bargain. Compare it to a loaded up Suzuki Kizashi. The more the market forces the price down to begin with, the less resale value will accompany the vehicle. The Verano is a very well equipped car. That does not come cheap anywhere these days unless you are looking at used ones.
  • jmh13jmh13 Posts: 1
    I just bought one. Leather group plus a sunroof. We paid a few hundred over invoice, which is about $2,000 under MSRP. Based on that, I would think anything less than $1,500 or so under MSRP is a good deal.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    Buick needs to put Homelink and a rear view camera in this car before I'll consider it. It has a heated steering wheel but no rear view cam? Who thought that one up?
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,021
    A reporter is hoping to interview car-shoppers under 34 years old to learn whether they are interested in the new "near-premium" offerings from Acura, Audi, Buick and Lexus. Thanks for responding to by Thursday, March 29, 2012 with your daytime contact info and a sense of whether you think those vehicles are well-suited to you and your peers.

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  • ankith1ankith1 Posts: 3
    Hi Steve,
    I ran into this post a little late and could not respond to the interviews for car shoppers below 35.

    I am 25 and planning to buy my first car. i really love the 2012 Verano Base trim, compared to Acura/Lexus/Audi. I found out the quotes from different dealers for the verano and they said out of the door price would be around 26K. Few of my friends suggest that i should go for a used one, probably a 2011 Buick Lacrosee.
    My budget is $25K, and I travel around 40 miles a day. Can you guys please suggest what I should go for regarding the two options I have. I am totally new to buying and selling cars and really don’t know what to consider. I would appreciate any input you guys can give on resale value, maintenance cost etc

    Thank you
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    There's a huge size difference between the Verano and the Lacrosse. The numbers on paper aren't reflective of how much difference there is. I own a 2011 Lacrosse with a 4-cylinder and really like it but it is a big car. Only the smallish (for the class) trunk keeps it from being a EPA class Large Car.

    The Verano is a compact and while it's trunk is the same capacity as the Lacrosse, the passenger cabin is far smaller. The Verano will have a completely different driving experience (more sporty) than a Lacrosse that is more traditional Buick.

    Buick offers a 4 year/50,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty and 10 year/100,000 mile powertrain warranty. That is a plus for many consumers. Buick dealers are everywhere also, another plus for scheduled maintenance.

    The $26k out the door price quoted must be for a pretty loaded model. Veranos can be found well equipped for $23k. A used 2011 Lacrosse could go as low as $19k or as high as $30k depending on options. If it were me, I'd look into a 2012 Verano with a few less options and keep it around $24k.

    Check for the best prices in your area. Good luck!
  • todefytodefy Posts: 2
    edited April 2012
    A review of my 2012 Buick Verano just after passing 1900 kms

    General note – This review is not intended to either prove or disprove anyone’s prior, existing opinion(s) & or reviews of the car. It is, for all intents and purposes, my thoughts after having driven up to, and just passing the 1900 kms mark. I am not, and do not claim to be a professional auto reviewer. However, like many of you, I do happen to like cars & truth be told I am really, really liking this vehicle.
    And NO, I am not either 60 or 70. But let’s just say I am in my earlier 40’s.

    About me: American born but raised in Lugano Switzerland in my early hood then back to the U.S where I served in the USMC and afterwards worked at Boeing under Alan Mulally’s leadership. Now a part of the Canadian landscape. My Grandfather, who raised me in Lugano (Switzerland) basically retired from MBenz. As such, he was truly passionate about cars and as such I was raised around Alfas, Fiats, Opels, Peugeots, Renaults Porsches, you get the picture. He was also good friends with Clay Regazzoni and I was offered the opportunity to be introduced to Niki Lauda. As a side note, my Nonno most idolized the Opel GT.

    Cars I have owned: Ford Pinto, Toyota Starlet, Toyota Celica, Chevelle, (2) Chevy Camaros, Chevy S-10, Merkur XR4Ti, Audi A4, Suzuki Sidekick, VW Jetta, Mazda Miata and lastly the Verano. As it happens, once the Verano Turbo arrives I may be upgrading to it.

    What I was looking for in a new car: An entry level luxury / luxury vehicle focusing on several aspects of the car ownership experience to include: well built, reliable, great to drive, safe, decent on gas, comfortable & lastly aesthetically pleasing.

    On to the car
    2012 Buick Verano – (EXT) White Diamond Tri-Coat - (INT) Cashmere Leather Package with Intellink (less Navigation) but with the optional wheel package.
    Average combined mileage so far (as per trip computer): 12.4 L - Not that great but as it happens, and with anyone being familiar with Richmond, B.C., one should know that it has more stoplights per capita than the rest of the world combined. Not sure as to what the City Planners where thinking when designing roads, but traffic must not have been one of their top priorities. IMO, Bangladesh has better roads for Heaven’s sake.

    So, why the Verano? The only reason that I was swayed in the first place towards this purchase was after being talked into test driving a Chevy Cruze. After doing so, it led me to believe, that for once, GM along with its other American counterparts, were finally changing for the better. The fact that the Verano has German DNA also helped to have it as one of my choices.

    Interior: All that I can say is wow. The fit & finish in this thing is truly a step up for GM. As it has been highlighted in several professional reviews, if one was to remove the badging one would think they are sitting inside a Bimmer or Audi. It is really that good. But can it be considered luxury? Well, that defines what luxury means to each one of us. Is it a Bentley? No. Is it an Audi A7? No. But I would be diligent in stating that the Verano’s interior can definitely go head to head with any of its luxurious counterparts. And considering the price of entry, one should not find much to fault in its execution.
    The seats are well bolstered and I have found it to be relatively easy to find a good driving position. All the controls, knobs, buttons etc. move and/or click with a reassuringly quality feel when either being pushed and/or pressed. The instrument cluster, along with its gauges, is set up very nicely in pods which I have found to be easy to read in all lighting levels being either sunny or at night. I would have preferred that Buick use white background lighting as opposed to the “usual” and overused orange and blue hues. But it is not something to really complain about. The cabin ambient lighting is just beautiful. Additionally, while driving at night, the chrome on the speed / tach pods reflect outside reflections form streetlights which truly help in exuding some sort of class. All that I can say is that they really thought about everything when designing the interior. The Bose audio system is decent enough. I am aware that everyone craps on Bose’s back door in regards to their sound reproduction qualities but I am not buying a car so I can listen to Beethoven or Bach in “D” Minor, or in my case, Eminem, Jay-Z, Wyclef Jean and other forms of Hip Hop etc., at 700 Watts of power. Is it nice? Yes. Does it sound good? Yes. I believe that GM with its “Quiet Tuning” initiative has achieved what they set out to do. As previously highlighted in several reviews I have had passengers ask me if the engine was running. It is really whisper quite inside. So, I guess, all the better for Bose to do its thing as advertised.
    In regards to all the radio & heating / air conditioning controls on the center console. In short, S-I-M-P-L-E. I have read reviews stating that there are so many buttons that it is confusing to use them. I say, YEAH RIGHT! to that. Everything is set up so simple a 2nd grader can figure everything out in about 3 minutes.

    I find that my choice of interior color mix is quite nice. Not old looking but then yet not the same atypical boring all black with aluminum a la MBenz. One thing is for sure. It is not austere. There are wood grain inlays (fake) on the door pulls and around the center dashboard inset in brushed aluminum dash trim which add a subliminal classy touch. Other than that the color on the rest of the dashboard and doors is two toned (brown / cashmere) and it is made with good quality plastics. Everything, gaps – panel alignments etc. is up to snuff. If anything, this in itself should speak in volumes as to how different, and better, the Big 3 have improved in the past few years. Speaking of doors. When they are either opened or closed these doors shut with that Teutonic thunk. Not sure if this is due to Opel’s help in the engineering but I find the Verano very substantial or solid, so-to-speak.

    Technologies on board – In short, Onstar & Intellink with Pandora / Sticher are amazing to have. The fact that I can also start, stop, warm the seats & steering wheel, check my car’s vitals, and do all this with my phone is a feature that I can wholeheartedly brag about. Yup, truth be told! I have had several German auto owners that have asked as to why this is not available in their cars for the price of entry.

    Exterior – Simple, classy, and elegant without being flashy. In this respect I really have not much to say since everyone has their personal taste in respect to how a car should look like.
  • todefytodefy Posts: 2
    So, not to get into a heated debate over this, but knowing how great Hyundai is doing these days, I may be in the minority when I say that I am not a big fan of their fluid sculpted look. At first I liked it but now it seems already somewhat dated. But then again I can say the same for the VW Jetta, which basically looks like everything else in their lineup. I can never be too sure as to which car I am seeing ahead of me, or behind me for that matter. Jetta? Jetta GLI? Passat? Audi A4? They all look alike. Does it work? I guess it must since they are selling like candy. Alas I continue to receive positive feedback in the design etho of the Verano. The headlights work as advertised. The blue “halo” around the headlights help in adding some substance to the front of the car without having that “Wow, looks like a BMW” statement. In fact, IMO, the LED crap that is happening has gotten way out of hand. I would presume that all auto designers must have only 1 letter in their alphabet this being an “L” shaped design theme. At any rate, the High Beams also work very well and not sure as to the way that they have been aimed but have had several cars flashing me back to turn them off. The taillight design/implementation is also very simple & clean. No weird shapes on the back. Everything looks appropriately dimensioned to include the mostly talked feature, this being the chrome Angry Birds eyelids. I personally like them and it does create some sort of design flair on the back.

    Engine & Suspension – This is an easy one. Great engine, very smooth and quiet, but it certainly could use the addition of a few ponies. The car does feel heavy and being several hundred kilos heavier than most cars in its segment, GM should really work towards in rectifying this. But I am told that the Verano GS should be arriving soon with an extra 40HP so I guess they are already aware of this. As for as the Suspension system and how well it works all that I can basically say is that the car feels pretty planted and feels secure when driven. Again, It is in fact very Teutonic in the way that it drives, soaks up potholes pretty well, is stable. The car is quick to respond to driver inputs and it handles quite well. The car arrives with pretty much all the standard fanfare of today’s models, Traction Control, Slippage Warning etc. IT IS a great car to drive and always look forward to taking the long way home just to keep on driving it.

    So at the end: If anyone should have any doubts as to how good this car really is, you should really take the time to test one. Is it better than A, B, or C? Well that is subjective in itself since what is purchased should only be dependent on the requirements of the end user. All that I can say is that I am duly impressed. Very good luxury car for the price I paid for it. Is it a 3 Series? Audi A4? Possibly not. But does it aspire to be? Not really. But I can say this. GM has garnered its fair share of criticisms as of lately but criticisms aside GM has always been at the forefront of automobile technology. I for one, can wholeheartedly say that I have been won over by the Verano. Or better yet an American car. In truth if they can continue to build the cars that they are building they should be able to change people’s perceptions of what kind of company that GM aspires to be.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 1,746
    Does the Verano's Pandora work in Canada? I know they turned off the online version of Pandora because of rights issues some time ago and you could no longer access it from Canada.

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    Good morning ab348,

    I don't have any resources available to answer your specific question as I assist US drivers. However, GM of Canada may be able to assist you with this if you wanted to contact them at 800-263-3777 (Hours: M-F 7:30am - 11:30pm, Sat 7:30am - 6:00 EST).

    All the best, and I'm sorry that I can't answer your question for you right here,
    GM Customer Service
  • robtroxelrobtroxel Posts: 103
    edited April 2012
    Great observations on the Verano. The non independant beam rear axle is a cheap out on the Verano and really keeps the Audi comparision from working for me. What I also noticed is that the front seat recliners are non power and hard to work. Also something inhertited from it's Cruze sibling. 12 to 13 mpg Avgis unacceptable mileage for a small car! Is anyone else doing better than this? Does the car at least have back up beeper alarms inside? Are the tailights LEDs?

    Conversly the sound suppression work on the Verano is world class! Honda needs to sit up and take note! I'm going to look at the Acura ILX due out this spring before I make any small car decision.
  • carman14carman14 Posts: 7
    Update on Verano 2012 6 month to-date.

    This is the little lady's ride and I get it on weekends. So far no problems to mention at all. This car is well built and fit and finish are excellent. For a car in this category it handles well and mpg not bad but could be better.

    Pick up outstanding and rides like a library on the highway. Compared to Regal I tool around with this car comparable but a notch better as far as transmission and luxurious interior.

    Only thing to note, front end is very low and I have a sidewalk crossing my driveway so I have a slight incline. This puppy front end dam rubs against it when I pull out to fast. Keep in mind also when parking near parking lot bumpers this baby will rip apart if you go to close.

    Had a recall notice regarding air bag, but dealer inspected and said all was good!
    Thats it for now!
  • guy1974guy1974 Posts: 89
    A rear view camera will be available for the 2013 models.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    Yeah, I read about that. What about Homelink? They put it in the 2012 Regal so I thought maybe they'd put in the 2013 Verano. I just don't understand their thought processes. They want to market Buick as a premium car but don't even offer stuff that is standard on most other premium makes or even offer it as an option. Strange.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    I suspect something must be cut somewhere, or the Verano would end up as expensive as the top end Regal or Lacrosse. It has got to be a conundrum to figuring out how to market a small luxury car without having it cost every bit as much as every other premium car. I think most manufacturers choose to make less profit on small premium cars and hope to make it up in somewhat greater volume. However, in the Verano's case, Buick is wading into territory (premium compact) where it has no track record or reputation. It certainly has made a good first effort, but sales are hardly remarkable so far.
  • robtroxelrobtroxel Posts: 103
    Truth is you can get better deals on larger cars that have been out longer such as the Regal Vs Verano etc. It always costs to be first with a new model. If you option the Verano up too much, you'd be wise to price out other family models.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    That's pretty much the case with any car class. The top of the lines tend to cross the lower or even middle of the next larger class. Lots of people just don't want a larger car even if they can get it for the same price.

    However, I don't think $100 cost for adding Homelink would throw this car into another price category.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    No, it wouldn't. But adding every option each individual finds important could begin to push it there. BTW, I like Homelink, but the building to which I recently moved has an opener for the common garage that will not link with Homelink, so that option is now unimportant to me.

    Also, the labor involved in building an Audi A4 for example is not appreciably different from an A6 or A7, or a Regal v. a Lacrosse.

    If I were in the market for a Buick, the Verano is as big as I would want to go, living in the densest part of my city as I do. My new Volvo S60 is actually an inch or two less in length than the Verano. An A4 is about as big as I care to go with a sedan, so trading up to the next size just because it seems a better deal is not something I would do.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    I'm wasn't referring not asking for "every" option known to man. Just an option that just about every premium/luxury car has standard and most regular brands at least offer. It would be nice to be able to order. I help with my mom and it is very handy to be able to program the Homelink for both my garage and hers to avoid carrying two transmitters. I was able to buy a mirror w/homelink for our Mazda. Cost about $200 installed if I recall correctly. Wish Buick would be as convenient.
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