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Chrysler 300M



  • Sorry if I came across a little heavy. I know how frustrating this can be--you've got a car you love and it gets screwed up by someone who wasn't paying attention, then you find you have to drive a four-cylinder Corolla for 45 days because Chrysler can't locate a rear bumper. It's enough to make you want to scream.

    Being a lawyer, I am a strong proponent of the idea that you should "sue the bastards" if it's the only way to make yourself whole. I have no great affinity for insurance companies and it may turn out to be the right thing to do. My feeling is that you're better off trying to work through your insurance company to have the other guy's insurance fully compensate you. Don't get taken advantage of, but keep in mind that suing the other guy will keep this from getting resolved for a long time, with no guarantee that you'll get everything you're looking for.

    Good luck.
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    yeah thats what im trying to do. i dont wanna sue cuz i dont wanna go thru a bunch of headaches. im trying to get his insurance company to compromise with me. the lawyers and everything else is really just leverage to help convince them. if i have to, then thats one thing.

    im not trying to take them for all they're worth..
    im not suing for millions. if i did sue it would be for a around 5k. if i have to..
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Posts: 958
    There's a big difference here. A wrecked car has alot of damage, including frame. How much damage do you have? Is it just the rear bumper, trunk, trunk lid, etc? Maybe the repair job done on that car the dealer saw wasn't a good one. Most times no one will know is was in a accident. Even a major one if it's done right. DO you have pics of the damage?
  • denvermdenverm Posts: 356
    In Colorado, a no-fault state, I believe you have to have medical expenses over a certain $ amount before you can sue for personal injury in a motor vehicle accident. Under that $ amount, your own insurance company just pays your medicals. I thought most states were similar.

    As to property damage, I personally believe that the value of a fully repaired car that's been hit is less than if it had never been hit, especially for a new car. Assuming you get your car repaired and are offered some reasonable amount for diminution in value ($2K? $4K? talk to a dealer), I'd say take it. Hiring an attorney is either going to cost you 25 - 33% on a contingency basis, or a fair amount on an hourly basis. You won't come out ahead by a lawsuit, assuming that the insurance company gives you an offer that's in the ballpark, even if it's not completely what you think it should be.
  • Saw on the forum where Ottowkr was telling them the plant started building 2002 model year cars. He mentioned an Air Temp Sensor inline on the intake hose before it connects to the Throttle Body.

    Should be interesting to see that when they hit the showrooms.
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    heck i dont know if its wrecked or minor. i know all they've givin an estimate for is the bodywork (the part that was hit) at 4k. they're gonna do a seperate one for the transmission thats screwed up now, and the rattling in the door, and whatever else a diagnostics brings up, seperately.

    im getting with chrysler monday to find out a fair figure for the diminution (?) amount.

    im only gonna hire an attorny if they refuse to work with me on this....the lawyers fees are unbelieveable.
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    i just went to the gas station and when i turned into it, its sorta upshill entrance, and braked, it felt.... wrong. like grinding maybe? i dont know.. just not normal cuz i go to that gas station all the time its right by my house.. how could a rear ending hurt my brakes though??
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Well today the last 01 LH car was built. Guess what was the first 2002??? A black 300M built for Canada. Yes the rubber air intake tube now has a temp sensor on it , it is about an inch from the TB. The eng and trans controller is now one unit. Now two weeks summer vacation and then July 16 we start pumping out 2002's. Order yours today.........Otto
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    forgive my ignorance, but what benifits does this temp sensor have? i know it does what it says, but, what does it do after its gets the temp u know?
  • beach15beach15 Posts: 1,305
    What are all of the changes to the 2002's? I've read the shared trans & engine cooler, air intake, tire pressure monitor and the new colors, but anything else visibly different, like the year-to-year trim revisions? Any new trim or other changes? Where is the tire pressure monitor and what does it look like/do?
  • beach15beach15 Posts: 1,305
    For some reason, your photo site is no longer working. Everytime I try to visit, it has an error message. Check it out.
  • rogor2krogor2k Posts: 385
    Just got mine today. For anyone worrying about this being a refurb or "gray market" merchandise, be assured this is the full retail package with full factory warranty. It comes with wiring harnesses, brackets, everything but power wiring. If any installation shop wants to rip you off for "materials", walk quickly away and find another installer. The only material they need to supply is a 12 AWG (minimum) power lead to the battery terminal.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Posts: 1,116
    did you check the door weatherstrip to see if you have the shrinking problem---I had bad weatherstripping and got them to replace strips on all four doors--see if its wet near the door edge at base where it meets with carpet
  • tnsc_300mtnsc_300m Posts: 76
    Phases, I got to know you well enought to say that I'm sure you're not out to hit a lottery win with this. You just want your car fixed and to be compensated for the loss in value. Plus your medical & treatment bills. Lawsuits are a pain in the [non-permissible content removed] for all involved and I know you don't want or need that. Just getting to know your enemy (the other guys insurance company) like a smart soldier would. They're gonna try to jerk you around and minimize the whole thing down to a door ding. You know better and are getting ready to try to win what probably isn't a fair fight.
    you've got plenty of pics of the great car she is before all this and that could help.
    good luck to you.

    Fellas, there are way too many uninsured motorist in this state TN. Yes insurance is required but enforcement is a joke. and no passenger car inspection program here either. which makes an environment with to many deadbeats driving POS cars with no insurance and lots of people in this state unfortunately get screwed when they're victims in an accident. So making sure you get justly compensated is a major deal requiring mucho effort. I'm sure other places around have similar problems but around here it's a big pain to get a fair deal from the Insurance Co's. I understand where phases is coming from.

    my cyber $.02 worth
  • wencaowencao Posts: 52

    Any comments? I am wondering why Chrylser power its lower level model Intrepid and Concorde the same as 300N, so what is the advantage of buying a 300N if a cheaper 5.7HEMI powered Intrepid may beat 3.5L powerwed 300N ? Why cann't Chrysler rebuild its 300 glory by offering only HEMI powered 300N. If you want bargin please go for less powerful Intrepid/Concorde! Strange, seems chrysler don't know how to market their products.

  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    thanks for the support man...

    u coming up next weekend is it? wont be the same w/o my car, but we could still get together if u like?
  • tnsc_300mtnsc_300m Posts: 76
    Got the replacement coil-on-spark plug bolts today
    to replace the 4 torx heads that got stripped on my original ones when I/We tried to install my Platinum +4 plugs last weekend. Got 12 new ones, figure I may as well replace em all.
    12 bolts for $4.20 (w/o tax)

    pn# 6505121-AA @ $.35 ea. ordered 6/27 (wed.) arrived yesterday 6/28.

    While there asked about parts for Trans. filter service.
    filter pn# 4796730-AB @ $11.75 ea.
    gasket pn# 5010884-AA @ $4.95 ea.
    ATF+4 Fluid pn# 5013458-AA @ $30.00 gal.
    ( geez $7.50 qt./lt. that's more than some boozes cost)

    Sdmike, please add these to the PN FAQ you're compiling for the club.
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    u should also add the wiring color coding or whatever it was that avalanche posted a link too. i have it somewhere around here..
  • If you think $7.50 a quart for the atf 4 is expensive, when I still had my TJ I installed a NV4500 5 speed, it used a special syntec lubricant that you could get from Chevy or Chrysler. Oh did I mention that it cost $21.50 per quart and it took a little over a gallon to fill the tranny. Of course I guess if you can afford the $2500 price tag on the tranny you can afford $21.50 a quart for the lube.

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