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Chrysler 300M



  • splattsplatt Posts: 328
    blonda - be careful with Jiffy Lube - I went there for the last time about a month ago. They kids that work there (most of them are young and very inexperienced) stalled out my M! I wanted to strangle him. I heard him saying to a partner he was playing with the autostick. I'll play with his autostick.... :(

    Anyway, I spoke to him after they finished - told him never to even think of playing again, and talked to his manager as well. However, after watching them - doing the change yourself should be a piece of cake. The filter is on the drivers side of the engine at the front, the bolt on the pass side at front. Jack up the car, and go to town. I'll be doing that from now on...

    Scotian - I'll look at mine, but I think we have different trim. I've got the 01 and it has a chrome trim around the windows - did they not have that on the earlier models?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Chrome was an addition for '01.

    I don't mind using a lube shop, since these guys do dozens of oil changes a day...and one would think they'd be pretty good at it. I just take my own filter and oil (both Mobil 1) and they charge me about $8-$10 for the labor.
  • splattsplatt Posts: 328
    Just watch the guys who pull your car in (as noted ;) I saw them stall out at least 2 different other cars - that were manuals. My wifes old Acura, they could barely move. Granted she had 130k on the one clutch, but...

    Usually they are ok, but the M was the last straw. Can't be that hard to do myself...
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    ...paying $10 to avoid the hassle of jacking up the car, doing the work, disposing the oil, and cleaning myself up (and the drain tub, etc.) is worth it. Of course, just my personal opinion. :))
  • denvermdenverm Posts: 356
    I change my M's oil myself every other time (in between 7,500 mile service trips to the dealer). A few tips: I don't find it necessary to jack up the car. The oil filter is difficult to access; the best (only?) way to remove it is with one of those black plastic/nylon socket caps that fit over the end of the filter. Be careful not to overtighten the drain plug in its aluminum hole - strip it and you'll wish you had paid someone else to change your oil!
  • splattsplatt Posts: 328
    Thanks for the tip. I'll keep it in mind next time. I may go for one this weekend...
  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    Scotian - thanks for the picture of the window trim. That's exactly what I have. The one they have replaced (so far) is the rear. The difference between the rear ones (even though they are on opposite sides of the car)is very noticeable. Still waiting for replacement on the front drivers side. I think I have a good shot at getting the other 2 replaced. It's obvious why they changed the design. The previous design is near impossible to get a clean fit. I have gaps all over the place and it certainly doesn't look right on a $30,000 car.

    As far as Jiffy Lube - I have used them for years with no problems. The one by my house usually has the same people working there and I do the same as SDMike -- bring my own Mobile 1 filter.
  • jona57jona57 Posts: 190
    I seem to remember reading a few months ago that DC was going to try to expand its MOPAR performance parts business- as Mercedes does with certain AMG parts. Have you heard anything about the Special's exhaust &/or gear set becoming available for other M's? My local 5* does not have any parts lists for the Special yet, so they are no help (surprise, surprise :) ). As you may recall, I ended up buying a 2001M with PHG. (BTW- thanks for answering my e-mails requesting advice 6 or 7mo. ago!). Since I love the luxury group & chrome wheels on my car, (and since I can't swallow the $7-8K extra the dealer wants for trading my 01M in on a Special) I may just spend some $$ on dual exhaust and a gear set .

  • rstilprstilp Posts: 105
    Due for 30k service. Called to see what all needed doing and was told; normal oil change, filter, adjust drive belts, transmission drain and filter plus fuel injection service. $260.00 total.
    Do I need all this? On their reminder letter they (5*) had "replace power steering fluid" which I asked about and he said no they were'nt doing that.
    Is there some inconsistency here? I hate the distrust situation but, are they going to try to hose me? I hate being hosed.
    What really needs doing at 30k?
  • hmk123hmk123 Posts: 122
    Thanks for your replies. I looked at the black plastic part at the end of the rear door. It seems a bit too loose. I will investigate some more and then I guess I have to take the car to the dealer. It sure seems like it rattles more now than it did a month ago. It's not the biggest deal since you can't hear it when the radio on. But it would be nice to know it is gone :-)

    Thanks again,
  • scotianscotian Posts: 1,064
    My 5* had never heard of anyone doing that or wanting to do that until I came along (I noticed it in the schedule B maintenance & I was trying to track down problems that ended up being a bad rack & pinion). I didn't replace the fluid, but I got a new R&P under warrany.

    I remember talking to one of the shop guys who said it was a good idea to change it, but it sounded like he would have said replacing the air filter solenoid inverter was a good idea at 30K as well, if I had asked.
  • hmk123hmk123 Posts: 122
    Thanks for your replies. I looked at the black plastic part at the end of the rear door. It seems a bit too loose. I will investigate some more and then I guess I have to take the car to the dealer. It sure seems like it rattles more now than it did a month ago. It's not the biggest deal since you can't hear it when the radio on. But it would be nice to know it is gone :-)

    Thanks again,
  • splattsplatt Posts: 328
    rstilp - look at the manual. The schedule B is a little more conservative, and I try to follow that myself. Go to a mechanic that you like and ask how much the individual things listed will run - my guess is it'll be about half what the dealer charges. Their price for the 'service' tends to be very high. Just keep records and receipts for warranty purposes :)
  • Otto,

    I will make my last payment on my M in January 2004, just in time to start anew. :) About what time can we place a order for the N, November 2003?
  • What parts do you need and what's involved in making the change? Of the two gears, connected by the chain, I'm assumming it's the gear on the output shaft (on the right) that changes? The other gear and chain stay the same?

    How's this differ from the Prowler Pro gears? Less expensive? Not as much performance?

    When I installed a high stall converter on my GTO, I got an immediate 1/2 sec increase in 1/4 mile times. You can really feel it in your seat dyno.
  • scotianscotian Posts: 1,064
    I'm considering my muffler system options, namely the Borla single exhaust v. the Hugo semi-dual exhaust. I don't think a true dual exhaust is necessary, and may adversely affect torque (to me, acceleration is more important than top speed).

    Has anyone here had both systems installed on their car at some time? If so, which do you prefer? (If you've only installed one, then of course that one is better than the other!)

    Are the MagnaFlow 12258 and Rhino 921 the mufflers of choice for the Hugo system? Looking at the chart (, it seems that there are other options. Has anyone tried any of these?

    The Edelbrock looks interesting -- Is there a large difference between 74db and 88db?

    How does the Aluminized Steel of the Hugo MagnaFlow 12258 muffler compare to the stock muffler and the Borla T-304 Stainless Steel muffler in terms of longevity? What type of metal is the Rhino 921 muffler made of?
  • OK, I was going to buy the 300M today but now I'm setting my sights on the Special. Here's the problem. Nobody has them in stock and NOBODY WANTS TO GIVE ME A QUOTE ON ONE.

    I know the local sales guy is a tad perturbed with me right now because he thought he had an easy commision but it's my money. I don't spend over $30K very often and when I do, I want what I want. Has anyone here bought one yet or even test driven one?

    I like the idea of the Dual Exhaust (It must sound NICE), the larger tires, the ground effects, a tad more power and better brakes. I'm somewhat hesitant about using only Premium Grade Gas but the Mercedes and BMW both recommend Premium Gas too..

    So... Has anyone driven one or bought one on this site?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Check back a page or two for a post by ottowkr. He actually works in the factory and is the only one that posts here that has driven one.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    If you are willing to take an '01 M you can get it for $7k or more off MSRP. That means you can get a nicely equipped one for around $25k. Might also be worth considering.
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