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2012 Hyundai Azera

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  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 212
    My 07 Azera dropped a plastic shield so I had to go by the dealer for a replacement. They had a Red 2012 Azera in the Show room and it looked great, much better than the all black(boring) one next to it.The interior is getting close to my 2004 Audi A6 that I sold to but the 07 Azera.Both cars did not have the tech pak, which would be fine with me. When I asked the dealer if this was because they thought the fully loaded Azera would be hard to sell, they said no , that Hyundai sends them what the feel like and the Tech pak is hard to get.hmmmm. I could do without a sun roof. :shades:

    Dissapointed to see that the seats seem smaller than my 07 and no electric steering wheel and no way to tilt.Why would they take things away and raise the price? :mad:

    In two years when someone is coming off a lease I hope to buy one of these in the low 20K.Would like to see one in Dark Blue. anyome seen one? How would it compare with the Audi blue?
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 212
    The tech Package on the 2012 azera comes with those awful low profile tires. The BAse model does not. If you want a softer ride and don't want to feel every bump, go with the Base Car.
  • hjc1hjc1 Posts: 183
    Did you test drive this car ? I own the Azera with tech pkg. and it drives just fine with the low profile tires. The suspension handles these tires and I have not noticed any problems.
  • osaka75osaka75 Posts: 88
    I also had concerns when I saw how low profile the tires were. Before getting in, I compared them to the tires on the base model and thought that I could always ask if I could trade wheels/tires if I decided on the tech package. However, the ride was very nice and I did make sure to go over rough areas. I would suggest giving them a chance on a long test drive to see what you think before eliminating the tech package from consideration.
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,063
    edited May 2012
    I saw the Azera in the Boston area yesterday and I had a long conversation with the salesman. He said Hyundai will be building only 10,000 Azera's for 2012 model year. Not sure why such limited production but I can understand why.

    The only unit they had was a base model in white with cashmere/cocoa interior. I tried very hard to like this car but it was just passion-less with the personality of a Mitt Romney. Perhaps it was the color (I don't like white) or the size (too big) or the ordinary dash and console. In short, I was underwhelmed and crossed the Azera off my short list.

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  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 212
    The car really looks good in red, and I have never had a red car.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    sounds like the '12 is following in the footsteps of the '11 model....2nd worst selling car in the US after an Acura model....
  • bmb1767bmb1767 Posts: 62
    Are you sure he wasn't pulling a con on you to buy the car? It is amazing some of the old tactics that the salesman are still trying to use. And people are still falling for them!
  • bmb1767bmb1767 Posts: 62
    It hasn't been out long enough to achieve any ranking for sales yet!
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    Just give it some time.....sls and marketing nightmare (failure).....too expensive and Genesis is more attractive package overall (power, interior, pricing, etc)
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    It was a late arrival to the 2012MY. 2013 Azera's will be here this summer.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    Probably same result.....base@ $32K.....too expensive for the segment...Genesis overall is better package...especially the R Spec 429 hp .... worth the difference
  • bmb1767bmb1767 Posts: 62
    Pretty obvious you have a strong bias against the Azera, Jamazera. I had a 2009 Azera. Good car and good mileage. Would like to hear from others - good and bad. Not just continual bashing.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    bmb
    I have an '06 Azzy Ultimate black on black . 23K miles....love the car, but not the new model..wouldn't trade mine foe the new one...maybe a Genesis..see previous message.....also have a Santa Fe (150K miles) and a Sonata again the sls numbers on the Azzy's for the past few yrs suck
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    Personally, I don't care if the sales numbers on a car are low or not. The only downside I can see in that is that maybe resale would be affected, but if you keep the car awhile, it shouldn't matter. Our '06 Azera still gets appreciative looks, followed by a stare as they try to figure out what it is - exclusivity is good, too.
    I agree, though, that for about $3k more, a V6 Genesis is sweeter - but only if you live where there is little snowfall.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    sls numbers played a role in the demise of Pontiac, Olds, Saturn,Volvo,etc..
    Azera was not marketed as a winner...no major ads, etc....I would heavily consider the Genesis and I live in FL...only white stuff down here is the sand on Clearwater Bch or the cocaine in Miami..
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    The GM brands you listed were axed for many reasons, and even though their sales volumes had decreased greatly from GMs heyday when marketshare was 50%, they still sold many cars. Lately, the models were not distinct and competed with each other. Why spend money in competition with yourself? I still fail to see a downside for the buyer in the scenario, however. All warranties on the cars continued to be covered in full, and their common parts with other divisions meant service was easily performed at sister divisions. The big losers in the loss of those divisions were the dealership personnel.
    As for Hyundai, if they decided to discontinue Azera, they are still required by law to maintain parts for 7 years, and I'm sure you could still get your car serviced at your Hyundai dealer.
    Don't know about down there in Florida, but Volvos are still sold around here. They have always been low volume ( at least here in the US ). The car group is now owned by a Chinese Corp.

    If Hyundai ever provided an AWD option in the Genesis, that would really make the Azera redundant. Until then FWD simply works better for those of us who must drive in snow.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    Hyundai marketing/sls will not allow the Azera to cannabalize the Genesis product;but pricing is getting close between the 2 products....Porsche does the same with the 911,Boxster, and the Cayman.....3 different products but pricing is getting closer among the 3.....read: profit margins for speciality manufacturers increasing due to limited/slack sales...check the sls numbers on the 911 in the US last year, you'll be surprised......50% of Lexus sales come from the RX line.....remainder of the line is dated and stale.....IMO, sales drive the whole automotive market machine.....I've been in sls for 30+ years and seen a lot ....EV's are not the answer...small turbo 4's with high fuel numbers are the answer...a battery is not an energy producing device,,,it's an energy storage device....
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 212
    You can bet the price will be about 5k more for an all wheel drive genesis. Since all wheel drive systems are not all the same, I would probably look at a 2-3 year old Audi A6 instead.

    I saw a film comparing all wheel drive systems of several cars. The Volvo was the worst, with the Audi going twice as far up the hill. The Subaru was close to the Audi. Who knows how good a Hyundai all wheel drive would be.
  • Big news this morning that Hyundai has been caught lying about the fuel economy of some of its models. The EPA mileage listed on the window sticker has overstated the actual milage by as much as 4MPG. Azera is one of the many models affected. Whether it's just the new Azeras or the older ones too, will probably be reported as more news becomes available.

    Our '06 Azera could achieve the 30MPG highway rating under ideal conditions, but the city mileage is not good. Many other persons have also complained about the mileage returned on anything other than freeway driving. By comparison, we have a Lincoln MKT - a large CUV with 3 row seating and AWD. Under the same driving condtions as our Azera, it returns 1 to 2MPG better.

    Shame on you, Hyundai!
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