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2012 Subaru Impreza

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  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Be sure to check the Subaru Impreza and Impreza WRX STI Prices Paid and Buying Experience discussion for others' results.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Just a head's up, pages 1-42 and 1-43 of the owner's manual discusses the conditions under which the passenger SRS should NOT be active, and corrective measures to take if it is activated under conditions it should not be. It does still conform to the ~100# conditions I indicated for the Outbacks, but does not specifically state the weight limit or other controlling factors.
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 804
    Sorry to say, but the air bag condition is going to warrant a trip to the dealer. I've heard of a couple of other instances with the passenger side seat weight sensor being an issue. Apparently Subaru has updated the part and generated a new part number, which is on back order. I'd recommend setting up an appointment with a dealer to confirm the issue and get a new seat cushion and sensor on order.

    -Ty
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    any updates from the other early april folks? no new news from my dealer. he said the apr6 estimate won't change and he won't have any updates until the vehicle arrives at the dealership. i have this dream/hope it will come a few days early (he said it can be a "few days early or later" than the estimate. we'll see...
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Picked mine up today. It arrived March 30th and had an estimate of arrival on March 26th. That said, an Impreza sedan sceduled for next week was on the same truck. So some are ealry and others late.

    My Sport Premium ended up being a PZEV. Sales guy didn't know there was going to be a switch at the time I picked mine so he just wrote "Fed" on the sales slip.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    edited April 2012
    Since I didn't drive them back to back I can't say for sure. The ride is a bit firmer compared to the base hatchback, but the saleman said the tires were at 33 to 34psi. Suggested tire pressure is 32 front and 30 rear. So that might be a contributing factor to the firmer ride.
    Noise was hard to say to. My daughter had her Ipod using the bluetooth connection and blasting some tunes on the way home.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    yes, was due in on the 6th, but came in March 30th. Port of entry was Richmond. Picked it up yesterday the 31st.

    It's exceeded expectations in all areas--comfort, handling, quietness, build. The conversion to the red dash illuminations at night is a bit eerie, but very effective. I like it.

    If I keep it at 55-60 on the highway, and between 1700-1900 rpm, I can easily keep the instantaneous gas mileage between 35-42 mpg. I expect that I will see mid-30 mpg's right away.

    John (CVT, 5 door).
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    man...now you have me itching John!

    i would assume that mine should be here any day. mine is estimated as 6th of April at the dealer, but i think at the port (see my previous post about the other date listed) on the 29th. where is your dealer? mine is redwood city, so let's hope ours came in on the same ship and mine gets to my dealer soon! :)

    thanks for sharing.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    dealer is Fresno...was recently bought out by Lithia, and frankly...this was the first time I've had a Subaru dealer here willing to cut nice deals, especially on a new model like this one.

    Another nice surprise, the key fob/key is all in one. Very effective. And the rear hatch does not have a mechanical latch, it is an electro-mechanical affair.

    The heated seats are NICE....the heat covers more territory than the '03 Forester ones...plus, the AC does not automatically come on with the defrost (gas saving feature?).

    Was telling the dealer that this new Impreza hatch is about $1000 less than the '03 XS Forester I bought, and it is way better in terms of all the important areas. Kudos to Subaru for holding the line on pricing, and making it better at the same time.

    John
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    glad you are liking the car. this will be my first subaru after being a honda guy for many years. (i am really displeased with their recent offerings)

    sounds like my car, assuming they were on the same ship, should be here any day now, and maybe before the friday target. we'll see.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    I agree with you on that!

    Rear hatch release is nice.
    All in one key fob is one less thing dangling on my knee.
    Heated seats are way faster to warm.
    Compared to my 2001 Outback wagon, I saved roughly $2k and other than the rear cargo, the Impreza is the same size or bigger!

    I haven't driven at night yet, but looking forward to seeing the red glow.

    --Jay (Impreza Sport Prem. CVT)
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    I've said it a few time here but here are some of the numbers comparing an 2001 Outback and the new Impreza.

    First number 2012 Impreza
    Second number 2001 Outback

    front leg room_ 43.5 vs 43.3
    rear leg room__ 35.4 vs 34.3
    front hip room_ 52.2 vs 51.3
    Rear hip room_ 53.1 vs 51.9
    Wheel base___ 104.1 vs 104.3
    Weight______ ~3000 vs ~3450

    Obviously the Impreza looses about 15 inches of cargo length, but other than that, the Impreza is bigger except in the weight and overall length which is hatchback vs wagon.
    Both of these vehicals have grown over the years.

    --Jay
  • kanjiikanjii Posts: 99
    Update...oil light came on at 2124 miles. I added some oil and still the light is on. Called the dealer, looks like it may be a sensor or a pressure problem. Appt is tomorrow, will update you with results.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    I'm guessing the numbers are very close also compared to the '03 Forester, which clocked in at about ~ 3050 lbs for the MT. Rear leg room is ~ 2 inches less in the Forester.

    The Impreza though is lower to the ground, and overal height a couple inches lower vs the early Forester.

    John
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    edited April 2012
    Rear hatch release is nice.

    As long as you have power, I agree that it is nice. Otherwise, it can be a real pain to access tools, jumper cables, etc., in their most likely of locations. ;)

    How does the hatch close? Easily? I find that I have to slam the hatch on my Forester more often than not in order to get it to close securely. And, of course, that leads to other fitment issues as time goes on, such as loose trim, rattles, and the like.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Never thought of the possible power issue. Hmmm.

    The hatch opens and can be lifted with one finger. Its only slightly more difficult to close from fully lifted. No more than two fingers to latch it closed. So yes very easy.

    My old outback required lubercation to the release lever/handle often otherwise it stuck in the open possition and required a good bang to close. Once lubed it closes fairly easy. That's why I like the new what appears weather proof release on the Impreza.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    edited April 2012
    www.facebook.com/edmunds - 2012 Edmunds car Crazyness Voting
    2012 Impreza vs BWM 3 for the finals.... votes are almost tied.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    looks like the impreza won.....
  • hcalcathcalcat Posts: 30
    Just picked up our DGM Sport Limited Impreza on 3/31, approximately 10 weeks after ordering it on 1/24. They parked it outside in front of the showroom and a number of people checked it out while we were filling out the paperwork. I did not not see any hatchbacks either in the showroom or on their lot so they are still in short supply.

    I have been primarily a Honda person and this is my first Subaru. I am impressed with how solid the car feels and the low NVH level. I am still on my first tank of gas and am averaging 21 mpg in mixed driving over the first 100 miles but I observed hitting in the high 30's and low 40's when going 60 mph so I am hopeful of higher averages. It handles well and is very comfortable. The Bluetooth phone connection is confusing and unnecessarily complex. The setup in my wife's 2012 Hyundai Accent is very simple and user friendly.

    Has anyone replaced the rear hatch light with a brighter led? Saw a Youtube video of someone that replaced theirs and the difference in illumination is quite dramatic. If anyone knows the part number, manufacturer, and where to buy, please pass it on.

    To answer someone's question, the rear hatch requires a "medium" slam to close. The door open light on the display has come on a couple of times because I didn't close it hard enough. So far, I am really enjoying driving the car.
  • kanjiikanjii Posts: 99
    Update: oil light turned off after driving it a few more miles. Hooray!! No need to go to the dealer.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    edited April 2012
    there was a DIY project.....however.....in the older hatchback there was a plastic headliner trim piece that you could remove as noted in the DIY project......the 12 HB doesnt have that piece and the headliner rolls all the way back to the hatch now......

    two companies have a led strip that simply attached to this piece and you loosen the side to run the wiring down to a direct connect to the light on the side....again a change in the 12 HB puts a side airbag on that side panel now.....Im not one for loosening panels when it involves a airbag......so I too am looking for another way to add additional lighting to the hatch...

    also found a kit to replace the lower rear bumper reflectors with working LEDs...that can be connected to the brake or turn signals or rear lights for constant on.....Im connecting it to the brake lights......its $50 plus shipping and direct replacement for the reflectors with easy installation.... if interested let me know and will send you link for it
  • birdadlybirdadly Posts: 10
    --"My Sport Premium ended up being a PZEV. Sales guy didn't know there was going to be a switch at the time I picked mine so he just wrote "Fed" on the sales slip."--

    Has anyone else that recently took delivery have this happen? I read here after April 1st they'd be all PZEV, but I assumed it would be new orders. I was told mine was at port on March 27th, with delivery April 9th... so I'm curious if mine will be PZEV or not. (not that I mind)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    It took a few miles? At what level on the dipstick was the oil level showing, both before and after you added fluid?
  • hcalcathcalcat Posts: 30
    thanks, pao. i don't want to go thru all that effort or mess with the airbag either. i just want to swap the orginal hatch light bulb with a brighter led. i went to o'reilly auto parts but they only had amber and blue leds. here is the link to the youtube video where someone has done this.

    Led hatch light
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Looks like that is just a basic 1157 bulb replacement; looks to be called a #68? A quick search on Amazon turns up a few possibilities, so they should be around....
  • flopkaflopka Posts: 22
    edited April 2012
    Over the last few days I've noticed some slightly odd behavior at idle with my 5door Premium. Nothing truly disturbing, but different enough after a month of driving to make note of... When at idle, I hear/feel something that seems to be either the engine doing something new, or a fan kicking in - not sure which. This happens pretty consistently at every stop light idle. Also, occasionally I hear something that sounds/feels like a click or a switching happening under the car. (This one can be either at idle or when moving.)

    What's going on? I almost want to say it reminds me of behavior when the A/C is on (like a compressor kicking in), but the A/C is definitely not on. And I never noticed it until this past week.

    The only unusual/new thing that the car has been through before I started noticing this, was being stuck in an excessively long, dead-stop traffic jam for about 10 minutes.

    Or is this something normal that's related to the idle-stop feature on the new Imprezas?
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    hi all,

    i'm so glad to have had this community to lean on the past several weeks thinking about the car, ordering it, patiently (or impatiently!) waiting for it to arrive, to today: picking it up. i'm sure i'll have more review comments in the days/weeks ahead, but this is first a Thank you post.

    in the end, i paid $600 below invoice without any hassle or haggling which i thought was a very fair deal and i didn't try to milk out the last bit of profit from the dealer. this was the most painless new car purchase i have ever had in the negotiating price department.

    what made it better today was that when i decided i wanted to buy side moldings and the homelink mirror, the dealer happily sold them to be at cost (below invoice, so i am trusting they really were at cost) for me to self install. (they wanted $100 each for installation and so i said no thank you...hopefully, the mirror will be as easy to install as the insructions seem to suggest...my only concern is figuring out how to gently remove the new mirror since the instructions/diagram are a little confusing to me at this moment, but hopefully it will become clear once i try -- anyone install their own homelink mirror?)

    even the financing (paid cash) and hard sell for warranty and maintenance plans were quick and short. we were in and out of there, with the "car demonstration" in under an hour. kudos to Carlsen Subaru in Redwood City (SF Bay Area) -- highly recommended (at least for purchase). any bay area folks recommend certain dealers for service? i anticipate doing simple stuff like oil changes myself, but will have to think about where i do the major maintenance stuff (30 or 60, etc.)

    also, following up on shipping times...when i ordered the car 23 days ago, i was told to expect 8-12 weeks to be on the safe side, but 1 week in, was told that the date jumped to April 6th because they found a match for the car i requested (no options at all...maybe that helps?). and today i got it...so very quick compared to expectation, but as you probably have seen, even then, i was anxious to get the car as early as possible. :)

    anyway, thanks for the great posts and sharing of info. it's been great being here and i'll continue to lurk, read, and maybe occasionally post.

    i drove the car to work half freeway/half in town and the mileage is averaging 31.5 so far...not bad :)
  • flopkaflopka Posts: 22
    Actually, DO the American Imprezas even have idle-stop? I could be mistaken... but anyhow, my question about the behavior still stands. Lately the car has been sinking to 700 rpm on idle (as normal) but sometimes something seems to "kick in" and nudge the rpm up to 800-900 for a few seconds. This is odd and didn't used to happen.
  • hcalcathcalcat Posts: 30
    Congrats, dfong87. Also thanks to everyone in the forum who have been so helpful during the purchase decision and delivery wait process. I waited 10 weeks for my DGM Sport Limited and had a similar great experience with my dealer, Subaru of Sherman Oaks. I picked my car up late Saturday afternoon and the process took about 2 hours, only because the finance manager was so backed up. No pressure on buying the added warranty coverage or any other maintence items.

    I got mine at invoice through the Costco program but am getting rebates of $500 from Costco (Cash Card) and $$250 from Subaru for attending the LA Auto Show (the rebate actually expired but Subaru Customer Care extended the offer because it was a factory order). I decided to finance through Subaru (I was preapproved by my credit union at 2.99%) because Subaru Finance offered 0.9% interest for 48 months. My dealer also included 2 years free maintenance.

    I ordered mine with the popular equipment pkg (homelink mirror, rubber mats, cargo tray, rear bumper applique), aero mud guards, body side molding, and side sill plates. Am looking to add window tint (35%) and swap out the rear hatch light if I can ever find the right one (thanks, xwesx).

    I am not yet getting great gas mileage (only 21.5 mpg according to the car's computer) but the instantaneous mileage hits in the low 40 range when cruising at about 60 mph so still I have some hope.
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    edited April 2012
    congrats to you, too, hcalcat.

    how do you like the homelink mirror? i only caved on that after finally getting around to helping my wife program hers on her prius so she can avoid having remotes for both our community and garage.

    i was looking over the installation instructions and it seems to suggest that there will be a little wire showing* to allow for flexibility when the mirror is moved. do you see that with your unit?

    * http://techinfo.subaru.com/proxy/66206/pdf/066206-h501sfj100.pdf (see item 13 for those curious)

    sounds like you got a really good deal, too. it's interesting that you had to wait 10 weeks for yours. i guess the Sports may be in even greater demand? i think i really lucked out. my dealer said so...he says only about 1 in 10 cars does he find what happened to me: they get a match and the delivery estimate is a lot shorter than the typical 8-12 week time frame. (it was 6-8, but recently he said they are seeing 8-10, so they say 8-12 to be safe and not annoy customers by being overly optimistic).

    Aside: he also said that when you get an "estimated delivery date" it's usually pretty conservative. he said rarely is that day exceeded. i guess SOA would rather you be happily surprised than be given overly optimistic information...

    enjoy your car!
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