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2012 Subaru Impreza



  • I've noticed this too. It's not like the car is unstable - if I'm at speed and I remove my hand from the wheel the car continues to go straight.

    Perhaps it's because the electrically-boosted steering is still too sensitive to input at high speed. So by virtue of holding on to the wheel and how fast the car is going, a tiny movement translates into the car moving a noticeable amount.

    I wonder if they could fix this in software.
  • Ok, here's my issue, hopefully it's just me...

    My rear defogger is very week. When we had 1/16th inch of frozen ice on the car a month ago, the rear defogger barely unfroze the ice, even after being on for 5 minutes. I just scraped the iced off and went to work.

    Last night's commute home, under very humid conditions, the AC cleared up the fog on the front window quickly, but the rear defogger did a poor job.

    After 5 minutes of it being on, only +/- 1/8th inch of fog was cleared on both sides of the rear defogger lines. After 15 minutes of being on, only half the window had cleared.

    Do others experience similar rear defogger results?
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    For the slight drift, I'd say it might be a air pressure or alignment issue if there is a constant pull to one side. If its going where you point it and its just very sensitive to any wheel movement it could be its just a new car with tighter suspension and steering than your used to. My Subies have never had alignment issues and the steering is a bit more sensitive to inputs with no to very little dead spots in the middle.

    For the "almost incident", I take it it felt like the car was about to spin out, but didn't. The sharp bumps may have gotten the wheels loose (bouncing. The low profile tires may have played a role? I'm new to these 205/50 R17 tire sizes so I'm not sure. All my previous cars have much taller side walls. I'm fairly sure the CVT didn't play a role and the AWD may have saved the car from spinning.
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    I never noticed that mine was not opening all the way, but mine behaves like this as well.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Rear defoggers are only "niceties" and in todays world everything get looked at for FE effects. Weakness therefore shouldn't be any surprise.
  • thom52thom52 Posts: 30
    Have you checked the tire pressure?
    After being warned, I checked my tire pressure and sure enough it still had the 40psi shipping pressure, which the dealer overlooked during "prep".
    That would definitely make a car wander a bit more.

    My Impreza was feeling like it my cars do before I take them in for alignment, a bit floaty, but dropping the tire pressure to something reasonable really helped the tracking.

    But if the tire pressure is ALL correct all around, alignment being off could definitely be a factor in wandering steering. At least worth checking.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,552

    Subarus are unusual: sports cars with a frumpy body.

    The down side of their remarkable handling and road control is their sensitivity to even minor variations in inputs. I found that a variation of even 1psi in tyre pressure or a very minor misalignment (even some mud inside a wheel) would affect handling dramatically.

    They are not your average "family-mobile"!

    Reducing tyre pressures will reduce the sensitivity, but make it softer for handling.


  • birdadlybirdadly Posts: 10
    Thanks for checking yours!

    I think it's silly that the moonroof is like this. But, I emailed Subaru and they said they tested one they had there, and sure enough it does the same thing... so that makes it "normal".
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,432
    edited April 2012
    Page 2-25 of the Owner's Manual - Hint: it's that thick book in the glove box. ;)

    Driving with the moonroof fully open can cause an annoying sound to be generated at high speeds. If this occurs, use the moonroof at the initial stop position of 16 in (40 cm) away from the fully closed position.
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,432
    Ordered Sport Limited with Moonroof on March 5.

    My VIN finally arrived overnight. ETA = May 10 (duration = 9.5 weeks)
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    I assumed that might be the reason but based on one or two trips I do not really notice a difference in the sound level between the two positions.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Make sure the rear windows is nice and clean.

    I noticed that on my Miata and it was filthy. Works better now.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    I beleive all moonroofs work that way with the stop prior to fully 09 CTS works the same was as well......the only difference is it also auto retracts the sunshade as well with it.....
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    took a 166.9 mile trip today, 90% freeway on cruise at 68-70 mph, and 20 miles of rural at about 55 mph with 15-20 stops. Trip mpg said 37.8 mpg, my tank fill took 4.06 gallons for 41 mpg (3 clicks both filling and re-filling). Average speed was 56 mph. No AC use. CVT/premium/hatch.

    The re-set on the tank fill gave me a range of 530 gallons. I've got 1150 miles on the car now.

  • hcalcathcalcat Posts: 30
    Thanks dfong, for the posting your settings on the NASIOC site. I tried them and even with my "tin" ear, I can tell and appreciate the difference it makes. Only change is that I turned the treble up a notch to +4. Sounds much "fuller" with the "loudness" turned on.

    I checked my tire pressure and they came at around 40 pounds and so I adjusted them down to 34/32 and it made the ride much smoother.

    Next week I am planning on having the windows tinted 35% because the DGM car gets warm on sunny days. Another thing I am contemplating doing is painting the front grill black because the silver stands out too much in my opinion. Have to check with my dealers service department on how to remove the grill assembly so I can Plasti-dip it.

    So far I am happy with the car except for the intermittent assorted squeaks and rattles. It doesn't do it all the time and doesn't annoy me that much.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    Well, I now have an uphill battle brewing. Mywife decided she wants to wait till end of July or August for a new vehicle to replace "The Beast". She also states that with the Pilot its nice to have the extra seats now that are girls are getting into more activities (it the dreaded soccer mom quote, I know) and that "We should look into a vehicle thats able to carry more than 5, but not a MV." I threw back at her.. Why not go for the Impreza with the really good mileage and lower price then in 6-8 years go back to the larger SUV when the goverment has all vehicle required to make 30+mpg city as the set standard. She came back, "Cause I don't want you (me) to have a better looking car than mine (hers)."

    So, besides the Impreza, I decided to humor her and look at the bigger vehicles. Not 1 is under $36k compared to the Imp at $25k loaded to the gills. The lowest (but only seats 6) is a Canyon / Colorado Crew at $32k loaded to the teeth.

    Now, I have been offered $14k trade on "The Beast" and he has been paid off since I got him. Somebody pass me the pepto please. :sick:

  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,432
    Have to check with my dealers service department on how to remove the grill assembly so I can Plasti-dip it.

    Doesn't look like fun ... gotta take the front bumper off.
  • PZEV has been made a "mandatory option" by Subaru in my home state - Indiana, and probably in every state. You can't buy an Impreza without it (I think the same is true for the Forester). PZEV costs $300.

    The price is not a big deal for me, and ordinarily I'd be in favor of paying a little extra for an environmentally beneficial feature.

    The problem is that unlike in California and other states that require PZEV, Subaru does not warranty the PZEV and related emissions hardware where I live. The price of the vehicle is the same, but the purchaser simply doesn't get the Subaru PZEV warranty. In California, PZEV is covered by a 15 year/150,000 mile Subaru warranty. In most other states, however, once the basic car warranty expires, the owner is on his/her own.

    Do people have thoughts about this? I tend to keep my cars for a long time. Is the owner of a vehicle with non-warrantied PZEV likely to face major repair costs down the road?
  • techdudetechdude Posts: 87
    5 weeks later and after the first 3000 mile oil change i'm getting 36-37mpg. Before the first oil change i was getting 34.5. I commute 60 miles one way, 45 on the highway and 15 on back roads. I drive between 65-70mph and coast downhill for the most part. No major complaints, but the indicator light for the airbag being off/on is an annoyance, as it seems out of place.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    not sure that is correct.....its warrantied here in MD based on what I see in the warranty book...not sure where you are getting the CA numbers from based on this: Copied from SOA site based on years... it would seem the PZEV would fall under 2, 5 and 8 year warranty....

    Year Unlimited Mileage
    Replacement Parts And Accessories Limited Warranty

    Year 24,000 Miles
    Federal Specification Emissions Performance Warranty

    Year 36,000 Miles
    New Car Limited Warranty, Federal Specifications Emissions Defect Warranty

    Year 60,000 Miles
    Powertrain Limited Warranty

    Year Unlimited Mileage
    Rust Perforation Limited Warranty

    Year 70,000 Miles
    California Specifications Emissions Extended Defect Warranty

    Year 80,000 Miles
    Federal Specifications Emissions Extended Defect Warranty

    Time Lifetime
    Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty

    will have to look at the manual later for full details
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