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2012 Subaru Impreza

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  • clarkbar6clarkbar6 Posts: 7
    I have a lot of the same reasons already mentioned here

    + I think the Focus cabin, while nice and modern, is overdone. There is no obvious spot to drop your phone (that I found) Its 2012 I dont feel like i need to leave my phone rattling in a cup holder. I really do not like the shiny plastic trim on the doors and near the shifter on the Focus. The SYNC is VERY nice. But i have heard of problems with it, and I have no need to fight a computer in my car (it IS designed by Microsoft...). But the button layout is a nightmare, and all molded right in to the dash, which i hate

    +Inside and out, the Focus is very modern and flashy, but something tells me it wont age well, especially the interior. Like you see someone with a Hummer or an Aztec, thats design that does not hold up over time.

    + Subaru had more room, cargo and passenger

    + a little thing - the premium impreza has the windshield wiper defroster which sounds like an amazing idea.

    + I realllly like Deep Cherry Pearl on the Impreza, and none of the Focus colors killed me

    + Reliability. Mainly heard things about Foci with transmisson problems. Subaru is famously reliable. This is a 8+ year car for me, so that weighed heavily.
  • + a little thing - the premium impreza has the windshield wiper defroster which sounds like an amazing idea.

    the technical term is: heated wiper landings
  • I test drove the Focus and while I liked the exterior of the car, the interior just felt cheap and cluttered. Wasn't a fan of the materials used for the dash and the leather looked very low end. Felt like I was driving an old version of the Focus but with more bells and whistles (and a much heavier price tag in 2012). I've heard/read rumblings about transmission issues so that gave me some pause as well.

    For the Impreza - love the AWD + great gas mileage... I never thought of them going together. The leather is a nicer quality and everyone I've known who has had a Subaru has had them forever. Also loved how spacious it felt inside.

    Have not loved the long wait and lack of communication/information from my dealership and Subaru... seems crazy that it's 2012 and they have no idea where in the world my little Subi is and when it will arrive.
  • cgalnycgalny Posts: 8
    edited May 2012
    I have an Impreza Premium with navigation, etc. and am wondering how owners feel about the navigation system. The only reason I bought the car with navigation is because the Impreza I ordered was taking too long to arrive...so I caved in and bought another Impreza on the dealer's lot with more options.

    I love this car. I've been driving and buying cars for 35+ years and I can't recall any other car I've owned matching the Impreza for value, utility, and even a bit of the "fun" factor thrown in for good measure. I've had lots of more expensive cars with more options and status, but the Impreza is just somehow a more satisfying new car, probably because of what you get for the price.

    Having heaped all this praise on the Impreza, I must say I HATE the navigation system. The screen is too small...too hard to read when the sun hits it...takes far too many touches to get it to do what you want...too often does not calculate good routes. A good navigation system should be easy to use by the second or third time you use it. The Subaru's factory installed navigation system...and I hate to say this...is the worst I've ever used.

    So those of you who decided against this option did the right thing, in my opinion. Then again, it could just be a personal thing. Perhaps other owners are happy with it.
  • pdxgarconpdxgarcon Posts: 2
    Thank you all for chiming in on this subject... Your comments are very informative.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    I think (can't remember) its the low riders. I bought them back in 2003 or 2004? They work on our 2001 Outback and Tahoe. Honestly I haven't tried it yet on the new Impreza but the rail appears to have the same shape and dimensions. It won;t be too long before I start using the rack. My 29er mountain bike just fits in the back with seats down, but I don't like the dirt and mud it brings in with it.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    edited May 2012
    Have you had any experience with other navigation units? Portable (Garmin, TomTom, etc.), or other factory in-dash units?

    I agree the screen is small, but it's still bigger than my 5" Garmin unit.

    Reading it in the sun has long been a problem for many in-dash units, so Subaru is not alone here.

    My Garmin 1490T often gives me questionable routes as well, so again, this is not unique to Subaru.

    My understanding is you cannot make changes to the navigation while the car is in motion, which can be frustrating; but it's a safety issue, which is why it's engineered that way.

    How's the Bluetooth? My limited experience with the new Impreza navigation is that the Subaru Bluetooth is light-years better than the Bluetooth in my Garmin. Also, this is the first Subaru Bluetooth that will upload your contact list from an iPhone.

    Bob
  • crlstocrlsto Posts: 17
    Are there instructions on how to transfer your contacts from an iphone (4s)? I've searched, but to no avail (maybe I need to search harder)...
  • kanjiikanjii Posts: 99
    Loving the car, especially the corners and all, but it needs a little better throttle response. Been a Honda lover all this time and I truly miss the throttle response. Then again, I had an aftermarket intake and exhaust on it, but I think I would not get the same response in the Subie. Hondas seem to get a 2nd breath after 4000 rpm, really pulls you back into your seat. Subie kinda slowly speeds up, but still past 4000 rpm, not much there. Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but wish to get a little more excitement. :shades:
  • cgalnycgalny Posts: 8
    Yes, I've had experience with many factory installed navigation systems and several Garmin units.

    Even though the Garmin units have a smaller screen, the Garmin 4.3" screen units that I have had experience with were much easier to read than the Impreza's larger screen. The Garmins' font style, size, brightness and contrast makes text easier to read. And I've never had a Garmin calculate a bad route. Whereas this has happened several times with the Impreza's system.

    I can't comment on the Bluetooth functionality because I haven't tried using it with any of my gadgets, and don't plan on trying.
  • cgalnycgalny Posts: 8
    I don't know. I would assume this subject is covered in the navigation system's operating manual, which I have not looked at. I feel one should be able to use a navigation system without referring to the manual. If I have to read the manual to figure out how to do something...well, let's just say I won't bother. I never had to refer to any documentation to use the Garmin units.
  • dfong87dfong87 Posts: 171
    i know what you're talking about i think, but it think it's a matter of the difference power and torque curves. i haven't tried to go over 4k yet (i'm still just under 1000 miles) but from what i understand, peak hp and torque are in the 4k band. for my VTEC tiny 1.6litre civic, it didn't have the torque the Subie has at low rpms, but once spun up to 4-5k, it really took off. so i think it's not that one is better or worse...but more what you are used to...
  • clarkbar6clarkbar6 Posts: 7
    Bluetooth was a huge sticking point for me, especially since I was comparing to a Focus (SYNC is very cool). The Subaru website has a compatibility list (here Subaru Bluetooth that does not paint a rosy picture: Basically it says the system does not support phonebook downloads from an iPhone 4 (or any of the 15 other smartphones I checked, so its not an apple thing). The iPhone 4s DOES support phonebook downloads, i dont see why they would be different if both running up to date software. Heres my experience with an iPhone 4 (from memory, once, havent taken delivery yet):

    Phone functions
    + you can pair the phone via bluetooth, which allows you to accept incoming calls via steering wheel controls (henceforth SWC)

    + I was not able to download my phone book. this basically means that via the "call" SWC you can only dial by number (call 9-7-8-4-5-...)

    + BUT you CAN use built in iPhone voice functions. you cant initiate them via SWC, but if you hold the button on the iphone to activate Siri, the voice will come through the car speakers and will listen via the car mic. This is the same as the SYNC, Siri stuff must me initiated via the phone.

    + So by just stabbing at the iphone home button, youll be able to do anything Siri can normally do - dial by name, read a text, dictate a text, whatever. This is a fine compromise to me.

    +this also works for pre 4s voice functions, which is basically limited to dialing by name and playing music (like "play artist Bruce Springsteen")

    Music functions
    + a paired iPhone will also stream music through the stereo. this works in the stock music app, and 3rd party apps like pandora and instacast (podcasts). It also displays track and artist info on the dash (if i remember right)

    + you can control iphone music streamed over bluetooth via SWC and the head unit. Wheel has no play pause button, but if you hit the power button on the head unit, itll pause. if you hit it again, itll resume right away. you can go forward and backwards via the up down toggle on the left side of the wheel. this even works in Pandora (something that the sales guy wasnt aware of)

    + via bluetooth, the only way to pick music is on the phone, and then it just routes it through the speakers

    + if you plug in via USB, the head unit will have all of your track info and artists and things and youll be able to scroll through them on the big screen.

    + if you are plugged in via USB, and not bluetooth, you wont be able to play 3rd party apps like pandora.

    + If you are connected via bluetooth, and you want to plug in f your phone to charge, and you want to use pandora, do one of the following 3 things:

    1. at the playback screen in the app of choice, someone where near the time scrub bar, there should be a rectangle that has an up pointing arrow (it is also probably blue) that is the output picker menu, and its usually hidden if you arent connected to anything. tap that and choose bluetooth and not USB Audio.

    2. from the homescreen, double tap the home button to bring up the multitask bar. swipe from to right to get to the playback controls. look for the same arrow in rectangle icon and select the desired output. (you might have to swipe left to right again to find the icon, im going from memory)

    3. from the lock screen, double tap home to show playback controls. the blue triangle/rect should be right there. pick the output

    this will allow you to use bluetooth audio to play pandora while you are charging.

    I think the phone automatically picks the most recently connected output. so if you start the car and bluetooth connects, then plug it in, youll have to switch the output back to BT. if you get in the car, plug in the cord THEN start the car, then MAYBE BT will connect second and no switch will be required.

    Ill be messing with this stuff extensively once i get my car. Crap that was long
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    4 words for real fun: double you are ex!
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    edited May 2012
    On the '12 Impreza with navigation that I test drove, I was able to load my iPhone 4 (not 4S, but 4) contact list on to the car's Bluetooth.

    Bob
  • kanjiikanjii Posts: 99
    Words to live by :shades:
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    for a 2.0 liter, the performance is outstanding. It will hold 80 mph no problem, and keep up with normal traffic.

    Subaru hit a home run in my opinion, jacking the mpg into the 30's and keeping very normal modern performance. That is coming from my perspective of growing up with the 70-80's anemia where 1.6 to 1.9 liter carburated 4 cylinders were the norm. This FB engine is amazing in comparison.

    John
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    edited May 2012
    Agree with John on the performance. Its solid and very good. Monday morning I had 3 teenagers and myself on the way to school. The Impreza had no problem on a long up hill on-ramp going from 20 mph to 70mph without much straining. I believe the max rpm I hit was 4k. That and my mpg is still improvong as outside temperatures get warmer.

    --J
  • clarkbar6clarkbar6 Posts: 7
    > On the '12 Impreza with navigation that I test drove,
    > I was able to load my iPhone 4 (not 4S, but 4)
    > contact list on to the car's Bluetooth

    Yep, youre right, and thats reflected in the compatibility checker link that I posted. I wasn't clear in which model i was talking about. i tried the impreza limited with the color screen stereo but no nav. Havent tried the nav one. That said, i think the rest of my points will still apply, esp regarding how to use siri and how to play music through the speakers.
  • birdadlybirdadly Posts: 10
    I don't have the Nav, but I bought a new 16GB thumbdrive for the car and it won't read it. Actually, I only put 1 song in the ROOT folder (and a folder of 3 PDF's) and on a 30 mile trip, it wasn't reading it... so I kept trying... and ONE time, it found the USB drive and played my song... later in the trip, after turning it to FM for awhile, it wouldn't read the dang thing. Nothing changed, just about 15 minutes later in the drive.

    I tried a friend's 4GB thumbdrive and it worked right off the bat, different brand. So, I think I'll just take back the drive I bought and get a different brand and size and see if it works.
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