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All-New 2012 + Toyota Camry

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  • bkcassellbkcassell Posts: 3
    edited October 2011
    Just bought a silver Camry SE 2012 about a week ago. Love, love, love this car! Rides smooth, looks great. Got Convenience pkg, Display audio with navigation and Entune pkg, leather pkg, moonroof pkg, carpet floor mats, and back bumper scratch resistant applique for 28,395.00 OTD. Couldn't get them to take any less. Live in Central Illinois. We could have saved another 200.00 to buy at another dealership but would have to have driven 1 1/2 hrs there and back. Probably didn't get the greatest deal but am really happy with my Camry. By the way, wouldn't you think that floor mats would come with a new car?????
  • Floor mats are additional $150 or so list, they do not come with the car. Some can come as all weather some can come to include trunk mats and even a trunk net. Yes it looks like a rip off, and it has a high margin of profit but this is how it is... i.e. all dealers do that. You can ask the dealer's invoice and you will see it on there from the regional distributor

    Howeverm you can do a special order, within the trim you buy and the options packages for the trim and their conditions (e.g. cannot get leather without moonroof etc). Then you can select even a base trim without any options or even without any mats (which will have original Camry embedded in them). You may need to wait 4-6 weeks for that if no local or national dealer has what you want, but its possible.
  • I currently have a deposit placed on a loaded XLE (including floor mats), for a silver car they should be getting in any day. southern california, The agreed upon deal is $50 under invoice, $200 more than the trucar deal I brought in- but that was for a dealer 128 miles away. I am reading people are getting 800-900 under invoice? should I hold out for a better deal? Total price out the door is 33357. My tax rate is .0725 and government fees are 349.785 (sometimes you just have to love cali). Good enough? Or try for better?
  • adotadot Posts: 4
    getting my 28,000 out the door.
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  • A V6 or a V4 ?
  • What was invoice? The car i'm looking at has every option available.
  • Bought a beautiful new 2012 Camry SE..... and just a couple of days later, the electric steering system completely failed while making a left turn and nearly got broadsided by a semi truck!!!!!!!!!!!

    Had it towed to a Toyota dealer and they will call after diagnosing it.

    I've had some unreliable cars but never in my life had one nearly kill me a few days in to ownership! Just glad it did not occur while on the freeway or else....

    So do I have any recourse or am I stuck with this death trap? Obviously, I don't trust it anymore. Can I force Toyota to give me a different car?

    I thought Toyota was all about safety now after the past couple of years. I guess I was wrong to trust it.
  • Would you please send me additional information concerning the Steering issue you claim.

    I would like the dealer information so I may contact them and see what the defect was. This is of concern to me since I just purchased a 2012 Camry myself.

    Thanks,

    Dale
  • ypak1ypak1 Posts: 3
    Same issue here.

    I bought the 2012 Camry SE and few days later, the electric steering system completely failed while making a left turn. Dealer still has the car for last 5 days and can't seem to get the part and/or fix the issue.

    Having had 2007 Toyota Camry for 200K, 2012 Toyota Camry SE seems to be very unreliable. Is this pattern that we will be seeing ?
  • Yes please post the name of the dealerships your cars are at. You're allowed to on Edmunds. I'm sure any of us considering an 2012 would like to get some more info.
  • ypak1ypak1 Posts: 3
    Here's update on the car:

    I was told that there was a complete failure of the computer inside the car. They are waiting for the part to show up from Toyota to replace it.

    If this is type of quality in 2012 Toyota Camry, it doesn't bode too well...
  • Do they at least give you a rental car while waiting for the parts?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    If you read the warranty, yes, Toyota will give you a free rental if they have to keep your car for overnight or longer.

    I know when the 2007 came out, which was the first year of the last generation Camry, they had some problems, but they were fixed under warranty. I see now that the 2007 Camry is quite reliable in CR and TrueDelta.

    Anytime you buy the first of a new model year, even Toyota and Honda, you will get more trips to the dealer to get problems fixed. But it does not mean that the car will be terrible for the long run. Honda's new Odyssey, GM's Cruze, and Ford Fiesta just got very bad reliability rankings in the latest Consumer Reports, but I bet they will be better once the bugs get worked out.

    I try to avoid a new model (the 2012 Camry is brand new) if possible, but I am sure it will get worked out soon. Could be just one batch of computers from their supplier that is bad. I would avoid the very first of the new generation of any cars, because this kind of thing is bound to happen. The 2012 being sold now are some of the first built, so if you have to have the newest of the new, then you should expect a few bugs that will have to be fixed.

    Good luck, I am sure things will get worked out and you will be happy soon.
  • Really? A "complete" failure of the computer insisde the car? I detect BS. I've delt with some honest dealerships before, but never one that honest. I also notice you have a commentary about Toyota at the end of each of your posts. Where did you buy your SE and what dealership is it located at now I'll ask again.
  • hecephecep Posts: 10
    I'm also detecting the whiff of a small furry whiskered mammal. If people can by the hundreds of thousands post critical reviews (at the plethora of online review sites) of a maker's product or service without having been sued for defamation (assuming that's their fear, however valid), then they should feel comfortable posting the name of the dealer who is merely handling the warranty repair, and without fear of retribution. The maker did not make the car. And it's the build of the car that's in question. Funny though: When I posted a request on Toyotanation for dealer info from maydepot (yes, he posted his "death trap" tale there also), one of the moderators there defended maydepot's silence on the matter. Then, after I made the same argument there as I did here, that same moderator got more than just a little defensive. What's going on here? Show me the last time a Car & Driver or Motor Trend reviewer go sued for effectively saying that a car stank up the road?
  • hecephecep Posts: 10
    Editorial correction to my previous post: "The DEALER did not make the car. " :)
  • Just bought a 2012 Camry SE last Monday and so far driven about 375 miles. I got $1551 discount off the posted price, plus 0% for 60 months. So far I have not encountered any issues. By far the best Camry I have ever owned/driven. And I owned/driven all Camry's since 1987. Looks gorgeous too! :(
  • ypak1ypak1 Posts: 3
    Well, local Toyota dealer service person was lying about the issue. Service manager is now saying it was an issue with Power Steering ECU assembly (and not complete computer failure), and waiting for the replacement part from Japan. Don't know whether I could trust them. I will hold my judgement until the car gets fixed. It has spent more days in the dealership service department than being driven.
  • I have a 2008 VW Jetta which also has an electric power steering. Never had any problems with that. So much for "reliable" toyotas. I keep telling everyone, toyotas and hondas are just over-hyped. My 08 Jetta still drives like a new car while my accord has always had some strange un-fixable problem with it.
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