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  • I came across the LS by chance sort of. While I was really wanting an 04 CTS with the new motor, they are just really a bit out of my price range right now. Especially if I got one with some options. For some strange reason I started to get on an SUV kick and was looking at Explorers. I had originally visited the dealer where I bought the LS looking at Explorers. The salesman said he had a couple of late model trades that had "just come in" and they were around back so we got in the LS and drove it around there. I've read reviews of the LS and always thought it a decent sedan, but after sitting in it and just hearing how smooth and refined it's V8 engine sounded at idle, I quickly lost interest in the Explorer and starting thinking hmmm. When I started researching prices on 2-3 year old LSs, the obvious choice became clear. Went back a couple of days later and test drove the car and was pretty much sold. After seeing how badly my previous car had depreciated and also seeing how the Lincoln did as well(considering my fully loaded 01 probably stickered for 40K and I got it for 22.9K) I'm not sure I'll ever buy new again. I might do a lease, but the way cars take such a big hit in depreciation in the first few years, I'm not sure I'll buy one brand new again. As for an STS, they are nice cars as well, but after driving a CTS and now owning a Lincoln LS, I'm sold on RWD. Both the CTS and LS achieve a very good balance between smooth ride and sharp handling. I'm glad to see Cadillac realizes that and is going to RWD on many of their future cars.
  • I've had my 2001 LS8 for 2 months now and love it. It is the base model with 6 disc indash changer, moonroof, and (just added) 17" chrome rims. Color is black.

    It had 26K miles on it when I bought it and I've put 2K more on it.
  • rgnmstrrgnmstr Posts: 226
    Hi kids. Just took delivery of a new 2003 V8 Sport. Black/black with THX/NAV, park assist, moonroof, etc. Bargain of the century. MSRP $45.8K, paid $33.8K. We will also be keeping our 2002 Silver V8 Sport. Don't know why anybody would buy a 3 Series.
  • russerusse Posts: 7
    Hi,

    My name is Russ Engs and I just recently discovered the Edmunds Town Hall. I own a black 2001 LS V6 Sport with manual trans that I bought in 2002 from a small dealership in Caledonia, Ontario. The car had been driven for a year by a Ford executive and was essentially showroom new (eg. back seats and trunk never used and not a scratch on it). The car came with advance trac, upgraded Alpine stereo, and 17" Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I recently installed Silverstar headlights and 60W foglights and purchased a set of Goodyear Ultragrip Ice tires on 16" American Racing (Touring) alloy rims for winter driving (usually we get lots of snow here in Ontario).

    I was not really in the market for a new car and test drove this car just to see what it was like. I was so impressed with this LS that I made an offer on it when I got back from the test drive and then had to go home and break the news to my wife that I'd bought another car (to add to the 4 cars, 1 motorcycle, and 1 boat that we already own!). Once she saw and drove the Lincoln, however, she agreed with my decision and now loves it too. The car handles like a dream and, although a little short on brute power, is still a lot of fun to drive. We plan to make some exhaust and intake modifications to increase the car's power and then hope to keep it for a long time. So far, except for one rear window regulator, the car has been 100% reliable and the only money spent on it has been for oil changes and wiper blades (touch wood).

    I live in the city of Cambrdge, Ontario (about 50 miles west of Toronto). I am 51 years old and I work as the senior physics teacher at a local high school where I also run the school jazz band. I have many interests that include motorcycling, offshore power boating, music, photography, investing, weight lifting and physical fitness, travelling, automotive mechanics, high performance and collector cars, and for a while I operated an automotive specialty repair shop and dabbled in other entrepreneurial activities.

    Cars have been a lifelong passion of mine and over the years I have owned many. Some of my high performance and sporty cars that I remember fondly include the following:

    1965 Corvair Corsa 140
    1973 Firebird Esprit 350
    1973 Firebird Formula 455
    1973 Trans Am SD-455 (black)
    1973 Trans Am SD-455 (white) - still own
    1974 Trans Am SD-455 (red)
    1975 Bricklin SV-1
    1977 Corvette L82
    1979 Mazda RX-7
    1980 Porsche 928
    1982 Porsche 928S
    1983 Mercedes SL convertible
    1984 BMW 533i 5 sp manual - still own
    1984 Pontiac 6000 STE
    1994 BMW 740i - still own
    2001 Lincoln LS V6 Sport - still own

    Out of all the above cars, the Lincoln LS has to rank as one of my favorites. My wife and I fight over who is going to drive it and after mastering its manual trans, my eldest daughter now wants her first car to have a stick. I just wish that Ford had not decided to drop the manual transmission as an option. I would love to have owned a manual LS V8 or supercharged/turbocharged high performance V6! Oh well, perhaps at some point in the future they will reconsider.

    I am glad I discovered this web site and look forward to communicating with all of you in the forum.

    Russ
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,244
    the furious activity in this and other boards relating to the LS.

    A real enthusiast's vehicle, eh what?

    I arrived here via a link in a much older post, and found the thread interesting.

    "Back in the day," the LS enthusiasts were willing to share lots of information. Either there are fewer of them/us now, or there is less information.

    You pick.
  • Hi, My name is Mike. I just bought a used 2002 Linc LS V6. I don't have much experience for this luxery sport seden. I choosed it because its safety.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Congratulations on your purchase. You got a real bargain there - a highly engineered car, for a great price.
  • I'm the original owner of a 2000 LS early production model with a 5-speed. I have about 58,000 miles on it. It has a bad bearing in the transmission that cannot be repaired by the dealer. A replacement will be $2,000 plus. The dealer and Lincoln refuse any warranty coverage citing the mileage. This is an obvious manufacturing defect in my mind as a typical manual transmission should last the life of the car if it is not abused and is properly maintained.

    The car still has the original clutch and the factory back brakes, so it has not been abused. The gears and synchronizers are fine. Only a bearing is shot.

    Has anyone heard about problems with these units?

    I think 4 of my last 5 cars and trucks have been from Ford. That said, I'll never buy another Ford / Lincoln or other Ford product as this kind of failure is inexcusable and Lincoln's attitude to me has been to "drop dead". I plan to buy two new cars and a new pickup in the next six months. I think I'll go Japanese (Lexus and Toyota Tundra) for the first time in my life.

    John in NC
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,244
    I have almost 75K miles on my '00 with a manual and (knocks on wood) no problems so far. Also have the original clutch, w/ 4.5 years of Phoenix rush-hour commuting.

    This is supposed to be the same transmission (Getrag) used in the BMW, but one never knows. Since only a few hundred were ever sold, it'll take forever to figure out if this is a prevalent issue. Except for one, every vehicle I've owned has been a manual, and the only transmission issue I had was with one of my Miatas, later traced to (wait for it) a Ford-induced defect.

    Just to add to the misery, when you do get the transmission fixed, you can be secure in the knowledge that the mechanic doing it has never done it before and will probably never do it again.

    Oh boy.

    You might want to post your message in the regular "Lincoln LS" board and the "Lincoln LS, Problems & Solutions" board as well. This one gets a fraction of the traffic those do, and of course none of them gets anything like they used to.

    I've owned a number of Asian vehicles in the past, and will most likely go back when the LS is used up. I think you'll be pleased if you do. Anyway, good luck, and keep us posted.
  • kokerkoker Posts: 23
    Isn't the transmission part of the "powertrain" and therefor covered by the 10yr/100000 mile part of the warrenty?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Which 10 yr - 100,000 powertrain warranty would that be?
  • kokerkoker Posts: 23
    I guess I must be remembering wrong, but I thought the 2000 ls had a 4y/50k bumper to bumper and a 10yr powertrain warrenty. I just sold mine (never had a problem with the manual tranny) so I can't check the paperwork.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yeah, not aware of any powertrain warranty beyond the 50,000 on a Ford product unless it's a certified product, or has a purchased extended warranty on it.
  • Thanks for the reply. I didn't realize so few were sold. I guess if I get it fixed and keep it for 30 years it will be a collectors items some day? Just got my 1st small scratch on it yesterday.
  • It's 50K for obvious reasons based on my experience. Actually, I drove my Ford Ranger for almost 300,000 miles with the original transmission, but that's a Mazda isn't it?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The 5 speed in the Ranger was a Mazda transmission, yes, which was a real knock on the truck for some people. Personally, I liked it, and mine, though not in my hands anymore, is approaching 200,000 as well, and the rest of the truck is holding up fine as well, thank you...

    I think the manual gearbox in the LS is a Getrag gearbox, isn't it?
  • insp2750insp2750 Posts: 1
    Just traded in my Lincoln LS 2002 to a new Lincoln LS 2005, with Navigation.
    I placed about 20 site address into the navigator. However, I dont know how to recall the destination, other than by the address. This does NOT seem right. You should be able to refer to a name relating to the address for recall.
    Any suggestions?
  • asemaasema Posts: 33
    Thats what I have a problem with as well. This is not really an address book feature where you can store addresses by name, but rather a mechanism to just store addresses. I hate it. I have used several Nav products, this is probably the first that doesn't store the address by name.
    And while I'm at it,..i also hate the fact that I can't enter destinations while driving..(yes yes..I heard it before...its for safety ...)
  • Hello, my nam is Dan Hucklebridge and I just bought a 2002 LSE premium/sport and I am a mechanic w/ 24 years experence. It has 55K miles and is silver and clean as a pin. I love the way the 5 speed auto trans performs but I am very much into fluid changing and we don't have one one those fancy fluid exchangers. I tried to read the print on the bottom of the pan but it did not make a lot of sense. I know there is a plug on the tail shaft but have not touched it yet. Just like spark plugs, I don't think trans fluid should be left in for 100K miles. Pleaase respond, Thanks, Dan
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,244
    I'm not sure when our automatic transmission guru will have a chance to get back to you, but he used to recommend ~30K change intervals.

    As I imagine you're aware, if you don't use one of the in-line exchange devices, there's quite a lot of fluid left in the torque converter, lines, cooler & etc. that'll still be in there when you think you're finished draining it. I suppose you could do it two or three times in a row, with a good long run in between each change, and come out at about the same place, but with quite a lot more work involved.

    FWIW.
  • Call me Tom, a driver of a 2004 Lincoln LS, the first American car I’ve owned. I am quintessential middle management, in a position requiring a lot of travel, most of it in my car.

    My family was an early adopter of foreign cars, with a Renault Dauphine, a Volkswagon Beetle, and a Datsun B210 in the bunch. However, if not buying foreign, my parents typically bought GM. In college I drove a 1982 Honda Accord, and my family have bought foreign since. Cars I’ve owned include the following: a diesel Volkswagon Jetta, 2 Honda Accords, a Volvo 240, and a 1995 Volvo 850, which I still have. My wife drives a Volvo S70.

    I spend a lot of time behind the wheel as part of my job, and after 10 years it was time to move into something newer than my Volvo 850. A spate of patriotism prompted me to focus on buying American. I did cross shop the Lexus ES330 and the Acura TL, but each had characteristics I didn’t like. The Chrysler 300 Limited carried a $5000 “regional economic adjustment,” and in my mind the interior wasn’t worth that, nor was the Caddy CTS’ interior worth the asking price. The Lincoln was a good compromise between what I didn’t like in the other cars.

    Never having owned Ford products, I wasn’t familiar with Lincoln’s history until I read up on it. Lincoln really has some high points in its history: the prewar KB cars, the original Continental, the Continental Mark II (yes, I’ll go ahead and consider it a Lincoln), the 1961 Continental, the 2000 LS. Lincoln seems to have lost its way as of late, but I certainly hope the marquee turns things around, and I look forward to spending quality time with my LS.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Welcome, Tom! Enjoy the Forums. :)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    You should really enjoy that car, displacedtexan. You know, it's a Jaguar S-Type under there, so you still sort of have a foreign car, owned by an American Company, with an American nameplate on it. Best of both worlds, maybe. Either way, it's an engineering marvel, possibly the best car on the road in it's class, IMO, matched by only the BMW 5 series, which is far less reliable. Welcome to the club.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,369
    I'm new to this board but wanted to give some insight on the build quality and NHTSB real-life results. The car did NOT have stability control. It spun out on ice and hit both front end and rear corner. The rear passenger wheel absorbed full energy and the axle broke. Damage included front bumper and grill work up to the hood and rear bumper and the wheel. All windows, doors and trunk worked but hood, no. The interior held together and air bag did NOT deploy! This was a really strong build design.

    Still, insurance company totalled it.
  • eanneann Posts: 3
    I have a beautiful 1995 Lincoln Continental (beige). The other morning, it wouldn't start. Up to then it ran perfectly. My mechanic suspects it's the Timing Chain. I want to sell it.

    I recently replaced the air suspension system with the coil suspension system, guaranteed for life of the car.

    The body is in beautiful condition. (some paint peeled off the rubber front bumper). Inside, there is a ripe in driver's seat upholstery, and the headliner is coming down in the back above the rear window. The passenger window works intermittently (tho it is up, it has never stuck when down)

    I have done all scheduled maintenance, and kept records of that. Emissions passed easily.

    What i want to find is a Lincoln Enthusiast, who would love to own and work on the car, and restore it to its day-before-yesterday top-running condition.

    If anyone knows such a person, Please let me know!

    Thanks so much, You all !
  • rmcmahonrmcmahon Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 Lincoln LS

    The transmission is shifting roughly and sometimes the check transmission message flashes with an "E" displayed in the drive indicator area. You then have to turn the car off and restart to get this to go away.

    Some say to change the solonoids in the transmission, which will cost about 1,000
    Anyone have any views on this as several people report a long expensive process of back and forth to the Lincoln garage to figure out the problem and try to solve it
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,244
    I guess I should admire your positive attitude, in that you're replying to a message posted over six years ago. Mark, a transmission specialist at FLM has probably had three projects since then, and I'd be stunned if he has looked at Edmunds at all in the past three years.

    Six years is a long time, in the LS world. The team that put it together & got it to market in '99 most assuredly no longer exists. I'm going to go out on a limb here & assume that you bought the thing for a song.

    The car no longer exists, in terms of what you can buy/lease at a dealer.

    The LS auto transmission has always given me lots of fodder for my discussions, the points of which are that: 1) the only way to achieve reliability is to have a manual (the LS did that for a few years) & 2) the LS auto appears to offer a number of "opportunities for improvement," some of which were executed. The LS automatic has been problematic since day one. Many work well for a long time. Enough don't that I've become even more convinced that a manual is the only way to go.

    Automatic transmissions demand expensive service when they fail. Get several opinions from several shops (dealers & independents), then bring your wallet.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    Steve - you might be surprised to know that Mark left Ford a few weeks ago and is now working for Getrag.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,244
    Wow! He went to the dark side (along with me).

    Good to know. Thanks.

    My LS will hit 110K in the next few weeks, & I'm planning a journey way north in July which should add another 6-7K.
  • jeyhoejeyhoe Posts: 490
    "Mark left Ford a few weeks ago and is now working for Getrag."

    A prime example of what is happening at Ford. THe good people who can get good work elsewhere have taken the buyouts. 70% of the rest dont have a good thing to say about the company. Any wonder pessimism rules?
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