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2012 - 2013 Toyota Avalon

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  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,160
    As the proud owner of the 2013 Gas model

    Congratulations Skip on the purchase of your new Avalon. And unlike most, Christmas came early for you this year. Enjoy the ride.

    Not to be too nosy (yes I do), how much did you pay? On CarsDirect they are asking full MSRP but, there is a significant spread between list price and invoice.

    After you have had a little time to read the technology owners manual please give us a report on handling, road noise, music system, and day versus night driving.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Well you (and many others) should and will look at the new Avalon. My first guess is many won't purchase it because it is noticeably smaller then earlier models and likely smaller then LaCrosse and others in the price range.

    Now if they drive it, they won't likely consider anything else!

    For me the only issues at this time are:

    - Cell phone doesn't work well
    - Satellite Radio fades a lot more then other cars with Satellite radio
    - Sports ride vs Luxury (cushy) ride? This one may take some time to decide.
    - Remote Starter is NO WHERE near long enough range:(

    Skip
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 107
    Congrats on your new ride Skip. Don't know if you remember me, but I'm the guy who deserted the Avalon family for a 2013 Volvo S60 mainly because of the front grill. I had a chance to see and sit in one last week and it is a sweet car, except for the front, IMO. The bottom line is you're happy with it and how can you go wrong with an Avalon given our shared positive experience with it. Enjoy!!
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I sure will. Here is a bit of what I've noted so far.

    First impressions on my 2013avalon:)

    Ok, we'll I just got back from my first short trip with my new toy. Here are my thoughts.

    First off let me me start with a BIG :)

    Quiet, smooth, comfortable pleasant to drive.

    Seats are much more comfortable then I expected on a longer drive.

    The trip was about 200 miles round trip. Mostly back roads 45 - 55 mph, and light snow all day.

    I didn't think about it until I tried to load CD's, as it appears it only holds 1. I'm sure this is because of entunes and the fact it can play a iPod.

    I still find the switches / controls on the top right a bit to far, but not a big deal. The lights are very nice, both headlights for lighting the road as well as the interior lights.

    Something odd, is that my cell phones turns on and off all by itself, which never happened with my old Avalon, and it is the car, because when the cell phone is on my desk at workor counter at home, it doesn't do it.

    The front seat heater is very good and seems more powerful than my old Avalon.

    The collision avoidance is real nice.

    Right Now I don't like the new radio station presets, a bit more work then the old system, but I can see where it will be easier once I get use to it.

    The 3 driving modes are interesting, but I didn't pay attention much attention to them yet, so I can't comment much. I can say you can see and feel the difference when you select each mode.

    The electric steering is REAL nice.

    I liked the 3 trays / pockets on the old Avalon better. Things seemed to fit better and easier to access.

    I love the coin tray up front.

    I like the digital speedometer which is handy when setting the cruise control at 9mph over the speed limit:)

    I REALLY like the solid feel when opening and closing the doors

    This car was Loaded up by the dealer - Tech Package, remote Starter, Floor Mats, Rear Bumper AppliquŽ, Trunk Net and more.

    I paid just a Tad under sticker, but got Over Book for my trade-in:)

    ***DON'T get the remote. While it works Great, it has a VERY small / short range:( Something I
    ll be dealing with somehow, as I can't park within 80' of my office often.

    I'm sure there will be more as I get more time behind the wheel, but that's for now.

    Skip
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Congrats on the purchase! Enjoy it. Are you saying it now has a sport tuned ride? The ride was the best part of the Avalon!

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Hi, I do. So how is the Volvo treating you?

    Trust me, the grill is a NON issue. I've had no less then 35+ people drive the car, check out the car, give their insight and thoughts, and NOT one person said anything about the front grill?

    These pictures aren't great, but I think it gives a better pictures as to what the grill looks like with the front plate on it.

    - http://www.flickr.com/photos/vonstringcaldinkal

    Skip
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I think the answer is yes. I mean, it's a bit firmer (no where near as cushy / floaty) as before, but the seats and system deal with it very well.

    My guess is, with the car being a bit smaller, it's hard to get a REAL cushy ride, and at the same time, any kind of sportiness to it. I for one would like to have seen settings to in fact get a cushy ride.

    So far, on the highway this is a non-issue, as the ride on the highway, or roads that aren't nothing but potholes is very nice, just different.

    Skip
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I guess this is just the trend. I don't know why cars can't have a cushy ride anymore. I traded out of my 09 Genesis because it rode like a truck. I now have a 2012 LaCrosse and it rides a little firmer than the previous Avalon but still very comfortable.

    The interior in the new Avalon certainly looks nice, but with the "grille", smaller size and firm ride Toyota is obviously heading a different direction with the Avalon than I care for.

    The one thing I miss from my 06 is that sweet 2GR V6. What a smooth revving, refined engine.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Give it a ride before you decide. It might be perfect for you. I for one, having had several Park Avenues and other large cars (When large meant - large), got use to a cushy ride.

    Again, with 35,000+ miles a year (and 25 - 30,000 of them highway) the ride should be just fine for me. It was on the first trip I took (about 200 miles round trip)

    I will say, my 2011 Avalon was MUCH more comfortable then the LaCrosse I test drove.

    Skip
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    edited December 2012
    We've done some shifting around in the fleet and I no longer drive the LaCrosse that often and unfortunately it will be giving way to an SUV of sorts since that is what my wife wants.

    I'm driving a 2004 Grand Marquis at the moment, and honestly I'm in heaven. Roomy and comfortable as it gets. I've had one before along with two Town Cars.

    Once we get the SUV, I may sell my 99 S10 and pick up a 2011-2012 used Avalon and keep the Mercury (was my late Grandfathers) as a spare car. My 2006 Avalon XLS remains one of my favorite cars I've owned.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • The test was done on the hybrid, which tends to be quieter than a ICE engine. With the V6, it will probably be somewhat louder.
  • the azera lookin back is killin me.i got a 2011 now.debating on getting your exact color one or a es 350.post more pictures.thatll help in my decision lol
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Wow, weird. A man and women just came in our offices / showroom and ask who owned the new avalon outside (Parking is such that most people are parked in front of their offices and that's why they came in), anyways, I said it was mine, and they said "Wow, great looking car", "I'll bet your real happy"!

    Skip

    :)
  • The Avalon Hybrid is quiet, no doubt. But the 3.5 V6 is certainly smoother, refined and more quiet than the hybrids gas engine. Of course when running on electric only, no gas engine will be less noticed, but that is only under very low load. The gas engine will be on the vast majority of the time. The Toyota hybrid combination is very nice, but you will certainly hear that 4 cyl. when under heavier acceleration. Once cruising, you'll not detect much difference, except in fuel economy.

    Having driven the 2012 Camry Hybrid for a year now, it is a very well built hybrid. Real world mileage is 40 mpg. Being the same powertrain in the Avalon, it will perform very similar. We chose the V6 in the Avalon, as we preferred that powertrain. The 6 speed tranny is splendid.
  • "Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels)"

    Until the V6 is tested, the hybrid Avalon is the new King of Smooth! :shades:
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    I just drove the av 2013. I have to say I was disappointed room wise and the new instrument panel. I love my 2011 that I purchased in 2010. So I marked the 2013 off my list and just found the same cypress green in a 2012 at a great price under invoice, and great trade in for my almost 38 thousand mile Av. It was a no brainer for me, just did not like what they did inside the 2013, it didn't inspire me to buy it. My dealer told me other people have also been disappointed. So with all the hype for styling which was true, other factors turned me off. They also reduced the gas tank so it no longer holds 18 gallons, it's 16 something gas tank, and a smaller spare and no aluminum scuff plate on entering the car, replaced with plastic. So just got turned off.
  • Fuel tank is 17.0 gallons, which would give you a range of 425 in the V6, based on 25 MPG combined, and 680 in the hybrid.

    Something tells me that's better than the 2012. :blush:
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Well, hold on there little tiger.

    The LTD has Aluminum Scuff plates (At least mine does)
    Was Fuel Tank 18.5 gals, now 17

    Now are other people disappointed, likely, if they are looking for a Luxury car. This is a Sports / Luxury car, not a Luxury / Sports car.

    Not totally sure I would have purchased it if not for a few reasons, we won't get into.

    My 2011 Avalon was more comfortable - in a plush/floaty way (I believe).

    My 2011 was bigger inside,

    My 2011 had a Full Size Spare,

    My 2011's trunk may have been smaller, but it WAS easier to get into, and fill with stuff.

    My 2011 had reclining rear seats (which my passengers really liked)

    With the filler neck likely holding .5 gals of fuel, the 2012 has a range of 60+- miles to a full tank of gas, more then the 2013:(

    Now, while I'm saying nice things about the 2011 Avalon, I can say, each day I drive my 2013 I'm liking it more and more.

    Skip
  • i got the 2012 green.bought in june.1500miles on it now.beautiful
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    With all those comments it is hard to believe that you aren't already having buyer's remorse with the 2013. I am glad that you are enjoying the car. It sounds to me that Yota is trying to move the Avalon away from being a Japanese Buick and more to being a solid competior to the Maxima, 300, and Hyundai Genesis.

    I did see one at the local Toyota dealer in a dark grey. That color makes the big mouth bass grille look a little tamed down.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

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