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2012 - 2013 Toyota Avalon



  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 184
    edited April 2012
    While I do like some elements of the front grill design, I agree it's a bit over the top---looks too much like the grill of the Hyundai Hybrid Sonata. I had hoped the design team in Ann Arbor would have come up with a better front end design closer to the front of the Tesla Model S Sedan ( which has a much better look with more graceful lines/appearance. However, since many of you all seem to not like the front end/grill appearance, keep up the chatter so Toyota will perhaps listen and modify the design to one that is more acceptable to more folks, as the final design may not yet be etched in stone. The new Avalon will probably not begin production for 1-3 months.

  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    This big mouth bass approach surely will turn off a lot of owners thinking of upgrading.


    Still the best looking Toyota

  • carlupicarlupi Posts: 52
    I truly hope the 2013 Avalon does NOT have that hideous front design. The upper part looks like a hump whale with a Camry grill slapped on; the lower grille is ....well just plain UGLY.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Well if it looks as nice in person as it does in pictures, I'll keep my 2013 Dark Blue LTD one on order, and be real happy when I get it.

    - Quieter?
    - Low Noise Glass / Wipers?
    - Much Classier inside and out - IMO
    - Although it's only a bit smaller - not liking that (Yet)
    - AWD?
    - ??? $?
    - Fuel economy
    - Quieter and smother ride

    Rear seems to have more control, over the heat / air, that could be nice.

    Trunk doesn't look like it will be easy to get big things in and out of?

    Some of the above could sway me one way or the other.

    If I didn't have 3 business meeting here Saturday, I was all set to drive to NY, and check it out in person. Now I'll have to wait like everyone else until it hit's the dealers showroom floor.

    Now it's just a waiting game to see reviews from the industry to see what they have to say, that's if the reviews come in before we get to check it out in person. And reviews on cars are pretty much like reviews on just about everything else - nice guidelines for things to look out for, but by no means the final reason to buy or not buy anything.


    I will say, after checking out all the colors, the Cypress Pearl looks kind of nice, rich, interesting?
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Ok, so what would you like changed and what do you hope the 2013 Avalon has or keeps from previous models?


    - Rear Window Shade
    - Smooth and quiet run (BUT is even BETTER)
    - Reasonable pricing

    Has or are options:

    - Rear Window Shade (it looks like it does have one)
    - AWD
    - Rear Window Passenger Shades
    - Redesigned Grill (maybe 20% smaller)
    - GPS that can be used while driving (maybe a button on passengers side, for them)
    - GPS that can be up-dated by owners via email / internet
    - GPS you can up-load routes to (love this feature on my Garmin)
    - A bit better fit & finish. Mines nice, but not great, and the paint seems to scratch to easy.
    - Door Handle Scratch Guards. (Clear Poly is fine with me)
    - Left-hand side coin tray (great for tools and self service car washes)

    Has or is changed from what we see so far:

    - Smaller Grill (20% smaller would be nice)
    - Larger Trunk Opening
    - A Fancy "A" Logo for all the marking on the car (Instead of the "T" symbol).

    Entune? If you have to be stopped to use it?
    Entune? If you have to have a "Smart Phone" to get the most out of it?
    Entune? If it's a pay for service, how much for what?

    I travel a fair amount, and IF the traffic part of Entunes works and is accurate, I'll like it.
  • carlupicarlupi Posts: 52
    -Excellent current ride, quietness, reliability and fuel efficiency
    -Large interior space

    -More leg room for driver (more aft travel of driver's seat; there is plenty of space behind it)
    -More extension/further reach of telescopic steering wheel
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,163
    Looks good but as others have mentioned that grill is out of character. Perhaps Toyota is smitten by the Audi and Chrysler 300 huge grill fettish but I'm not impressed.

    Still don't like the dash and console. It looks dated and staid even before it hits the showroom but I can live with it. Infotainment/telematics is now common in the cheapest of autos so I'm hoping that Toyota will give us something that is intuitive and easy to use. Basically voice activation for all basic functions.

    When it comes to price I am hoping that the top of the line should list for around $38K with navigation and the base model at $34K.
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    Here is an excerpt "And speaking of faces: is that a gigantic chrome egg-crate- textured, horizontal water-melon hanging out of the front of the “all new, emotional” Toyota Avalon? Yet another “all new” Toyota face, another brand striving for consistent visual identity?

    “Faces” on cars do matter, folks! And not that many car companies understand that."
    from 2/

    This is the part of the new design I can't warm up to, it's overdone. I might stay with my 2011 Avalon.
  • potat0epotat0e Posts: 12
    The Detroit Free Press reports that the Japanese automaker told dealers at the National Automobile Dealers Association meeting in Las Vegas, NV recently that the next generation Avalon will get better fuel economy than the Fiat 500. Or, so this thing says: nomy/

    The big lower grill on the new design is getting a lot of criticism. I hope it looks better in person. It makes me think of Audis, which isn't bad.
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    I don't mind a couple of dings on my front bumper, but now there is none. Also, if in NJ, where do you put the front license plate, unless they did away with it. Make the grill a little smaller, move it up to take the place of where the Toyota insignia is, and center it (replacing the smaller grill opening) between the head lights where the narrow smaller opening now is. Then you have an overall winner, and a car with a bumper returned (slightly ahead of the grill so if touched by another car, in parking, the bumper is touched first, not the grill) and a place to hang a plate. Just my humble thoughts. Other then that, this sounds like the best Avalon to date. If they do this, I'm a buyer. I hope they see the light and make the change. That seems to be the major complaint from all I've been reading, hopefully they read it too. As it is, I won't buy it, it's not practical. They didn't think it through. When they got rid of the old real chrome steel bumpers, to plastic that was one thing, but to get rid of a bumper in the front is nuts. Good luck to all.
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 588
    There will be three trim models offered in 2013:

    Standard - basic Avalon with many standard features
    Limited - same as above with a Nav system added
    Largemouth Bass - the Limited with a different grille, this is the model we have seen on display.

    Hope this helps everyone..... :)
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,163
    edited April 2012
    fin, what is the source of your information and what does the front grill look like for the standard and limited?
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 184

    Didn't you see that new Avy trim option in the latest issue of Field and Stream?

  • The 2013 Toyota Avalon will be cheaper than the 2013 Lincoln MKS, have more features, get better mileage and probably be roomier. These cars should sell very well. I am hoping Toyota makes a hybrid powered version as well.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    The sound deadening Glass, The Smoother Ride, the Quieter Ride at Highway Speeds, are all reasons I've told my dealer to get one for me - PLEASE:)

    - Better MPG than the Fiat 500 - or so they say

    Now my first choice is / was the Dark Blue, but I'm kind'of liken that Cypress Pearl the more I look at it:). And who I'm I kidding, the Red is pretty nice too.

    The grill isn't an issue at all from this angle.

    - -pearl.jpg

    And I'd still love to see a very classy "A" for the grill and rear badges.

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    edited April 2012
    I just noticed the Dark Blue color option, is no longer up on the Toyota web site:(

    I also noticed a new video on the page. It shows the tray with an iPhone and you and raise the flap to see under it:)

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Damn I was hoping for something new by now. Damn this is worsts then waiting for the birth of your 10th child:)

  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I was just on a trip and realized one thing I'd love to have on the GPS (that I don't think it has), and that it, the ability to say or enter "Take me to route "X". This way if you get off the beaten path and could get back on with greater ease.

  • yankeryanker Posts: 156
    We have a new 2012 Avalon delivered last week. It is a Limited with a GPS system which is an improvement on the 2010 we turned in Yesterday we tried to put a CD in the system with the button marked CD Where is the slot to put the CD in???? This is an issue because we like books on discs especially for long trips. Any suggestions The car came from Syracuse and so we never saw the window sticker to see if it has a cd player
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