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Beaters Out Of Choice, Not Necessity

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  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    edited August 2012
    Do you treat your Quest to synthetic?
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    edited August 2012
    lol, you haven't followed my posts over the years eh?

    I use good ol' dead dino - got SuperTech from Walmart today, which is what I usually get unless I stumble on a sale somewhere.

    Put a nice ol' Fram filter on it too. :D

    Oil changes have been running me about $17 each the last couple of years.

    I don't think this engine came with a crush washer. If it did, it hasn't seen one for a decade or more.

    Would be fun to see what an oil analysis says but I'm too cheap to spend the $20 bucks on one.

    Around here the van is more likely to either rust away or get totaled by a deer than suffer catastrophic engine failure. I do check the oil level every fill up, but it never uses any. Still on the original timing belt as well.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Yeah, dumb of me, your Quest would be more likely to ultimately succumb to rust than engine wear in the, um, Rustbelt, where you live. How's your Quest doing in terms of rust?
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    It was pristine until we left Idaho in 2010. Now it's got some spots. Nothing bad yet (it certainly doesn't look like the typical ten year old Michigan car) but it's starting. The amount of salt they use up here is obscene (probably why the deer like to hang out along the highways).

    The Subaru's rear hatch catches, well inside the door, are pretty rusty. That's an odd one.

    I have some rattle cans from Ace Hardware but the silver on the van is turning out to be hard to match. :shades:
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,606
    I love odometer milestones. Didn't have the camera.

    It's kind of a dumb milestone, but I took this pic of the Buick's odometer back in November 2010...

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    Here's when my 2000 Intrepid hit 100,000 miles, back on Christmas Eve, 2004...
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    Other than these two, I can't think of any significant odometer milestones in recent memory. My '85 Silverado had 109,000 miles on it when Mom sold it to me, and now has around 138,500. As gas has gotten more expensive, it's been getting driven less and less, and these days might be good for around 2000-2500 per year. So the 150K mark is probably about 5 years away...if the truck lasts that long. The powertrain's still strong, but rust is really starting to get to the body...mainly in the rockers and lower door panels.

    The Park Ave has about 85,000 miles on it now. At the rate I'm going, I think 100,000 will come up in about a year and a half. My '79 5th Ave, the only other car that gets driven fairly regularly, has about 97,000 miles on it. 100K might come up within the next two years.

    As for my other cars, my '67 Catalina has about 59,000 miles on the odometer (probably 159,000), '76 LeMans has about 81,000, and my other '79 NYer, the base model, has about 62,000. None of them will be hitting the magical 100,000 mile rollover anytime soon.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,077
    edited August 2012
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    Here's my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis LS on May 4, 2012.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,025
    edited August 2012
    Just inherited a 1993 caddy Deville from my younger son ( he needed money) with about 89,000 miles. Rides like a big couch. Has the older (and better) 4.9L V-8. I don't think I would have given him 2 cents for a Northstar equipped car.

    I have a 1988 GMC van which I use on the farm. Bought it from a neighbor for $900 3 years ago. I used it as my winter beater for my other job but the road salt has taken it toll. I've replaced a fuel pump, gas tank, tie rod, e-brake cable and lower control arms. All rust related items. It is a true hooptie. It has about 129,000 miles.

    Finally I have a 1984 Corvette that I bought from my older son ( he needed money too). It's not exactly a beater but it's no show car. It has 133,000 miles and various quirks you'd expect from a 29 yo car. Nothing serious. It could use a new interior or at least new seat covers but it drives OK and is kind of fun with the roof removed. I've driven it about 2000 miles since I got it and I'm surprised to see it doesn't burn or leak a bit of oil.

    I also have a couple of new cars which I like but there's a feeling of freedom driving a bunch of vehicles which if they were totaled tomorrow wouldn't be much more than a $5k loss. Every time they start and go where I point them I feel like I've got my money's worth.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,077
    I had a 1994 Cadillac DeVille with the 4.9 V-8. Despite being rated at only 200 hp, the car was no slouch and could effortlessly hit 100 mph. Decent fuel economy was also a bonus. The Northstar is kind of a gas hog.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,025
    "...the Northstar is kind of a gas hog..."

    I'd be less worried about gas milage than the Northstar's habit of blowing the head bolts out of the block at odd moments. Usually totals the car as the repair is super expensive.

    My 4.9L can get a solid 28mpg on the highway. Of course if you stomp on it it gets 6.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • henry_nhenry_n Posts: 33
    "The Northstar is kind of a gas hog."

    I have to disagree, and disagree strongly. Years ago, I went directly from a 92 Deville to a 98 Deville. Making the same commute, my average gas mileage went up from 16 mpg to 21 mpg. I am one of those people who keep a notebook in the glove compartment, and record every fill up, with miles driven, number of gallons, and mpg.

    The Northstar is NOT a gas hog. Yes, it does blow head gaskets. And I can testify to that from direct experience. But until / unless the head gaskets go, the mpg is decidedly better, and the horsepower / performance is dramatically better. A Northstar equipped Cadillac is a fun ride.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,077
    Oh, I KNOW the Northstar is a lot of fun as I've had two Northstar-equipped Cadillacs - a 2002 Seville STS and a 2007 DTS Performance. I think the issues are with earlier Northstars. I recall there was a lower block seal that would go bad and cause oil leaks ranging from a little seepage to gushing out. The part cost about $44, but the labor would be about $2K as the engine had to be pulled and taken apart to replace it. I believe the seal and head gasket issues were resolved in later cars.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    edited September 2012
    Drove down to Lower Michigan a week ago and it rained most of the day. Stopped to get gas and noticed that the driver's side floorboard was soaking wet and water was dripping down around the brake pedal. Told my wife this may be it - heater cores are expensive to replace.

    The water didn't feel oily and my wife is sensitive to smells and she would have noticed long before the carpet got soaked if the coolant was leaking into the car.

    I think stopping to get gas moved water in the cowl over to a low spot or something. Got to the campground and borrowed a fan and the carpet was dry by the morning.

    Rained again last Friday heading back north and got a couple of ounces on the floor. Guess I'll try to find the clog this week. The in-cabin filter is relatively new so will be surprised if it's clogged. It's also odd since the van is parked in the garage most of the time. We do have chipmunks.... :confuse:

    Rolled over 179,000 miles and really want to see 200k, but the years are taking their toll at this point. The move to salt country isn't helping.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Let us know what happens next.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    edited September 2012
    No hurry; it's a beater and not a commuter, after all. Plus we hit a cold snap and my garage isn't heated. Maybe next week. ;)
  • berriberri Posts: 4,018
    Had that happen in a 2000 Taurus. Ended up that the technician who replaced the cabin filter screwed up the outside air cabin intake in front of the windshield while removing and replacing the filter. Once they fixed that cowling or whatever it was called, it was fine.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    Well, the last tech who replaced the in-cabin filter was me. :blush: I've had the cowl off several times but I bet I did mess something up. That should be easier to fix that trying to find a clogged drain hole.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    "Rolled over 179,000 miles and really want to see 200k, but the years are taking their toll at this point."

    Of course age matters, but 200,000 is the new 100,000. In the spirit of beaters by choice, your van can do it.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,058
    edited September 2012
    Yeah, but I think the odds would be better if the van still lived in the high desert, not in the salt flats of Michigan. :)

    Ruking1 is right in there with me with 178k on his VW Jetta TDi. He drives more than we do so he'll get to 200k a year earlier that we will. And his mpg is twice as good as ours too.
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,195
    My daughter's Celica has 178K on it so we have a race going...... I just spent a fortune on brake work for it but where else I'm gonna find a basically good car for $1,000? She's back on the road.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,077
    "...where else I'm gonna find a basically good car for $1,000?"

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    These guys can send you back in time about 30-35 years and you'll find one! :P
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