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2012 Mazda3

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  • narillannarillan Posts: 1
    I got my 2012 Mazda 3i Touring with Skyactiv the last week of March. I've been loving the car. It's pulling great mileage and the a/c is awesome. It's been 90 degrees in Texas lately and the a/c is keeping up pretty well. I've had no complaints at all against the a/c. It drives wonderfully. My previous car was a 2000 Malibu so yeah. It doesn't even compare to this car. The Mazda is such a fun car to drive.

    And I think it's pulling about 35mpg, roughly. I'm only three thousand miles on it so far, so I'm sure it'll get better as the engine breaks in more. (Or I drive better :>)

    Though I was curious. I have what looks like the cutout for the low washer fluid indicator on the dashboard, but it doesn't light up when I start the engine with all the other warning lights do for that quick few seconds. And it didn't warn when I ran completely out of washer fluid. Is this normal for a Mazda? This is my first one.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    I have also noticed the a/c is not that strong. Putting it on the highest level still does not blow out a lot of cold air. I also have black interior. I have always owned light interior cars, so I am just wondering if its the darker interior. We haven't had too many hot days, only 88, so I am wondering what it will be like in the 100 degree weather.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    So I got some price quotes, thought about replacing the Miata with something a little more practical and with better range, and I got some great prices from a local dealer.

    Then I told the kids my possible plan and it was MUTINY! Funny! They both flipped out, no way do they want me to sell the convertible. It was hilarious.

    Wife liked the idea. I was on the fence, but the kids may sway me to keep the MX-5.

    With the loyalty rebate I was quoted $17.6k for an i Touring SkyActive. :surprise:

    Are people doing any better? Just curious.
  • kmh3kmh3 Posts: 35
    Haven't had mine long enough to know if the AC is weak or not, but smaller AC's are one way to increase mpg. My 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid had a weak AC, it took 20 min to get the car comfortably cool on a hot day.

    We are supposed to have some 90 degree days this weekend so maybe I'll find out. Maybe I'll post after some experience this summer.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    Mine was 18.100, but I had xm radio in it which is $432.00. So that price sounds about right. This was before tax and license.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    This was funny...so I took my sister to test drive a CX5, which she liked. I thought it was a bit slow. Floor it you get a lot of noise but little acceleration.

    Then I asked if I could sample the engine in a lighter car, i.e. the Mazda3 SkyActiv.

    So the dealer pulls one up and we go out for a drive. Feels much quicker, I was impressed. Didn't like the hard seats, though, hard just like my Miata's seats.

    We get back, and I peek at the Monroney, and it's a 2.5! DOH! C'mon, the guy doesn't know the product he sells? No wonder it felt quick, I had asked for a 2 liter.

    It was near closing time and we were shopping for my sister, so after all that I still haven't driven a SkyActiv 3.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    You asked to drive a skyactiv mazda 3 and he takes you on a test drive in something else? You need to drive one....you will like it. My favorite part of driving this car is the precise steering!
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    He said he drove the 3, it was the 2.5L S model and not the skyactiv engine. The steering is the same.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The steering was quite good, though I wonder if the SkyActiv ones have lesser tires (low rolling resistance)?

    For me the seats and overall comfort didn't meet my expectations, though again the SkyActiv has different seats.

    Gotta go back when I have more time. We were really shopping for my sister.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    though again the SkyActiv has different seats.

    Didn't know that. How are they different?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Was I imaging things? The one in the showroom seemed to have smaller bolsters. Are they in fact the same seats?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited June 2012
    Looking at MazdaUSA.com...

    No, they're different:

    i Touring: Cloth-trimmed seats with 60/40 split fold-down rear seatback

    S Touring: Cloth-trimmed sport seats with 60/40 split fold-down rear seatback

    The bolsters are more pronounced, and it seemed a littler firmer.
  • kmh3kmh3 Posts: 35
    I can confirm the AC is a bit weak, but not intolerably so in 95 degree weather. I was thinking this might be a good thing since it would hopefully mean decent mpg while running the air. But alas this is not the case.

    I can also confirm the AC is a mpg killer, I saw an 8-10 mpg drop from running the AC on the highway - dropped to around 32 mpg. My civic hybrid AC was also weak, but the mpg hit was half of this one.

    Oh well, at last I found something not perfect on this car. Lucky I don't live where it is hot.
  • My AC isn't an mpg killer at all. I regularly run mine when needed and don't see any significant drop in mpg from it (I log all my fill-ups).
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 791
    "I can confirm the AC is a bit weak, but not intolerably so in 95 degree weather."

    This has been one of the few complaints about the Mazda3 going back to 2004. For several years, you could only get BLACK interior. Even now, a significant majority of 3's still have BLACK interior. I am convinced that the black interior is part of the cooling issue!

    I have a 2006 MZ3 5-door with Black/Red cloth and a co-worker has a 2006 MZ3 i 4-door with Beige cloth. Her A/C cools the interior significantly quicker than mine does!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I was considering the white exterior for that reason - you can get the lighter interior.

    Not too many exterior colors to choose from, though. White, Black and Silver, that's it, IIRC.
  • zzzoom6zzzoom6 Posts: 425
    Hi everyone,
    My wife and I are beginning our search for a compact or subcompact hatchback and we have heard good things about the Mazda 3 with the skyactiv engine. We have heard that older models don't like snow so much, but don't know about the current model. And since we are from the soggy NW, if you have some experience with rain, your impressions would be welcome on this also.

    Thanks much!
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    We have heard that older models don't like snow so much, but don't know about the current model.

    Curious. Where have you heard that?

    I haven't had any problems with my 2011 Mazda3 here in Canada in either rain or snow. As with any other vehicle, one should equip it with snow tires for winter driving.

    It is a FWD, so if you're looking for AWD you should consider a Subaru or the like. Personally, I have never felt the need to go to that way as AWD vehicles tend to be heavier and pricier.

    p.s. the Mazda3 is renowned for its handling (see for example Consumer Reports). Also, now that DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) is mandatory the Mazda3 handles even tricky driving situations better.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    Anybody read anything about the 2013 Mazda3 Skyactiv Grant Touring having auto climate control? They screwed up with the 2012 model. Lot of people like this feature.
  • zzzoom6zzzoom6 Posts: 425
    It was a friend of ours, but I'm not sure I would put a lot of weight in what she says. So would you say the Mazda 3 is as good as other front wheel drive cars? I know my Mazda6 2005 didn't like snow all that much - the back end stepped out on me this winter. Thank goodness we only get snow that sticks every few years...

    Anyways, if anyone else has an opinion on this, I'd love to hear it!

    Thanks
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    Just read on cars.com that the 2013 model will include the following items, as standard equipment on the skyactiv Touring and Grand Touring models.

    From cars.com
    "A passive entry keyless system, push-button start and automatic climate control are now standard on the i Touring and i Grand Touring trims (formerly the options were unavailable)."
  • woochiferwoochifer Posts: 32
    edited June 2012
    "We have heard that older models don't like snow so much, but don't know about the current model."

    I would think that the performance in winter weather would also be greatly influenced by the tires. And if you're living in a cold weather area, you likely already switch out to winter tires during the snow months. The OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400s that come with the Mazda3i are not very good in general. Supposedly, Mazda picked them because of their low rolling resistance (i.e., high fuel economy). The chassis itself is very well balanced, but I can definitely find the tires' limit during hard cornering and when driving in the rain. Thankfully, the Turanzas' tread life also sucks, so I will be looking to replace my OEM set when the tread wears down some more.

    As far as other winter complaints, I have seen a lot of write-ups on rust problems with older Mazda3s. In my experience, Mazda's paint is definitely on the soft side, and it chips rather easily. I live in a warm weather area with zero road salt, so aside from rock chips, I don't deal with rust on a regular basis.

    Also keep in mind that Mazda uses a unique three-layer wet paint process, which they started using about a decade ago. With most other car paint systems, each coat is baked first before the next coat is applied. Mazda's process applies the base and clear coats while the primer coat is still wet, and only bakes after applying the top clearcoat. Mazda touts this as environmentally friendly (which it is, because paint baking consumes a lot of energy and the process cuts VOC emissions), while it also saves time and money. Mazda revised this process a few years ago switching to water-based paints, and Ford and GM now also use a wet layering paint process. I'm not sure if any of this correlates to Mazda's reported rust issues, but something to keep in mind.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,733
    Who needs push-button start?!? A USB input would be more welcome! Also the Skyactiv powertrains in the Mazda3i Sport.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Those are coming too.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    They have the USB too and the skyactiv engine is now in the entry model. I only mentioned a couple of items because a lot of people were so concerned about the auto climate control. You can read all the details at...

    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2012/06/2013-mazda3-whats-changed.html#more
  • woochiferwoochifer Posts: 32
    Wonder how this will affect the sales distributions for the 3i Touring and Grand Touring models. Right now, the Touring model costs ~$1,900 more than the 3i Sport, while adding the Skyactiv drivetrain, alloy wheels, cruise control, multi-information display, 6-speaker audio, Bluetooth, steering wheel controls, and leather trimmed steering wheel and gear knob. Not a bad deal for a more efficient and powerful drivetrain, and lots of extra equipment. And right now, more than 70% go for the Skyactiv version, so Mazda has succeeded at upselling consumers to the higher trim level.

    In 2013, the Touring model will add keyless entry, push button start, and automatic climate control, while the Sport model adds Skyactiv drivetrain and multi-information display. The Touring model no longer features a better drivetrain, so how many buyers will now pay extra to get the extra equipment (the 5-door starts at the Touring trim level)?
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    They'll probably pay extra just to move up to the 5-door.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited June 2012
    The Touring model no longer features a better drivetrain, so how many buyers will now pay extra to get the extra equipment (the 5-door starts at the Touring trim level)?

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    I believe a lot will. Remember, Bluetooth is not available on the Sport, neither is alloy wheels, cruise control and the availability of the Bose Audio and moon roof package.

    Before the Skyactiv drive trains were available, there were a lot of takers of the Touring model over the Sport. I expect that trend to continue.

    For those who wanted a 6-speed manual, you would be pleased to hear that you can get one in the i GT trim now. I also believe there will be a touch screen navigation system. Probably a TomTom based unit like in the CX-5.

    The 2.5L will be limited to the "s GT" only. No more s Touring trim.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    Heard anything about the placement of the new Navi and will it be a 5" screen like the CX-5?
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    There's no room in the Mazda3 for a reasonably sized, reasonably positioned touchscreen navi. And my Android cellphone is 4.8 inches. So tell me, what's the point of a 5 inch navi? :shades:
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