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Hyundai Elantra Real World MPG 2012

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  • Hyundai/Kia lied. Fraud will come out in the criminal trials. This is a violation of civil law also.

    The other companies? Name them and list the cars they lied about.

    Yeah right, we made dozens of "mistakes" over 3 model years and on over a dozen models ALL in our favor and several to achieve 40mpg hwy.

    I have a bridge to sell the Hyundai/Kia owners who believe that one.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    edited November 2012
    You should contact the Attorney General immediately to give them your evidence re how Hyundai/Kia lied, it could be important to their case.

    For someone who doesn't own an Elantra or ANY Hyundai/Kia, you seem to be really upset about this.

    Some perspective...

    About ten years ago, there was a class action suit against Hyundai re its overstating the horsepower on several 1996-2002 models, including the Elantra. The overstatement on the Elantra was 5 hp--135 vs. 140. I owned one of those cars. Hyundai said it was an honest mistake, and no fraud was ever proven (not sure it was ever charged). Hyundai offered on its own accord to compensate owners through extended warranties and roadside assistance coverage... which sounded pretty darn good to me.

    But then the lawyers got involved. It took 2 years of legal wrangling, but finally there was a settlement that called for compensation in the form of prepaid debit cards good at various retailers and valued at $50 to $225, or shopping cards worth $100 to $325 good for parts or service at Hyundai dealerships. The size of the payment depended on the degree to which a vehicle's horsepower was inflated. Since it was only 5 hp for my Elantra, I got (I think) a $100 shopping card, which I used for parts/service on my car (I think my other choice was a $50 debit card). I would much rather have had what Hyundai originally offered: an extended warranty and roadside assistance. But I took the card and considered it free money, since my car had no less horsepower than the day I drove it off the dealer's lot, it had plenty of power (and for its time, purchased in 2000, it was near the top of the class in power), 5 hp would have made absolutely no difference to me in deciding to purchase the car, and it affected the car's resale value when I sold it a couple of years later by... zero (the buyer didn't even ask about horsepower; it never came up).

    Go go ahead, Elantra owners, push for a fraud case and class action lawsuit. At the end, I have a feeling you won't be any better off for it.
  • I had about 12k miles on my 2012 Elantra and never came close to 40mpg during a highway trip, and generally averaged 32mpg in my weekly commute to and from work. I ditched the car for the Mazda 3 Skyactiv and get between 37-41mpg in the same weekly drive. Currently at 11.5k miles with the Mazda. I try to drive a constant 70mph on the freeway unless coasting down a hill takes me faster. I log my mileage and gallons filled up at the pump in my logbook.

    I never got more than 34mpg driving from the Bay Area to Sacramento in the elantra but I easily get 40mpg with my 3 Skyactiv driving the same way.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    First, I think it is dumb for new car buyers to think they can achieve any new car mileages posted by the manufacturers. It just doesn't fit the real world results. Experienced buyers know, or their friends know, cars have to be broken in before real world mileage ratings are even close. It just doesn't work that way.


    I completely disagree. The last three cars I have owned have all been spot on their EPA estimates, or better. (2002 Subaru Impreza 2005 Mazda6, 2013 Mazda CX-5)

    Some cars, like the '12 Civic, have a reputation for doing better than their EPA estimates.

    I have found that the new EPA ratings are actually pretty good and accurate for most vehicles.
  • The last two cars I'v owned (2006 Chevy Cobalt LS MT, 2012 Ford Focus SE DCT) have easily exceeded their EPA numbers from day one. Not sure what your high on.
  • Posted this over in the mid-size forum, but thought a few of you might like to see this...

    EPA to look at other manufacturers?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,824
    Wouldn't be surprised. There are a couple of models I've got on my radar and have reported on (internally), whose consumers are consistently reporting that they can't get anywhere near EPA estimates. We'll see if those correspond with any models that are investigated.

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  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,990
    A reporter would like to speak to Hyundai and Kia owners who agree or disagree with the latest controversy over MPG. If you own a Hyundai or a Kia and would like to speak to a reporter about your experience with your car's fuel economy, please send your daytime and evening contact info to pr@edmunds.com no later than Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 8 a.m. PT/11 a.m. ET.

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  • I specifically bought this car for the gas mileage, 29/40 what a joke I only get 24 combined. I have a 2009 Corolla (27/35) that I gave to my son when I bought this peice of S____(fill in the blanks). I drive both cars the same. I fill up at the same station, the Corolla was getting 27 combined, at least it's in the ballpark. The problem might not be the highway driving its the city driving...lets face it I didn't buy this car the highway cruising, the sole reason was the city driving.
    The gas pedal seems to be very stiff, I really have a hard time pressing it down. The eco button has no effect at all, I'm not even crazy about the ride. I have a hard time believing anyone getting low 30's city driving, when I do stictly city I barely get 22. I'm stuck with this car for another 2 years (3 yr lease) but can't wait to get rid of it. One positive ...it looks nice.
  • gman4911gman4911 Posts: 43
    edited November 2012
    FYI, the computer MPG calculation is typically 2-4 MPGs too high so you might getting worse MPG than you realize.

    Sounds like you just need to adjust your 'lead' foot. My previous car was a 96 Pathfinder. When I first got the Elantra, like you, I was pressing down on the accelerator too hard because I was accustomed to the amount of pressure needed for the Pathfinder. My first tank was averaging 24 MPG (computer calculated) until I read some tips on how to drive the Elantra. When accelerating, the 'experts' were recommending light pressure on the accelerator and not letting the tachometer get above 2250-2500 RPMs. You're wasting fuel if you allow the RPMs to go above that range.

    Another tip is to coast as much as possible. When approaching a stop light, try to count to 5 or 10 before applying the brakes. If you can't do that, you're wasting fuel by driving too fast and/or following the cars in front of you too closely. After I made the adjustments, I was able to get my first tank to average 29 MPG (computer calculated). Now after 17 tanks, I am counting to 15 and 20 before applying the brakes and my overall average is 30 MPG (manually calculated), mostly city driving.
  • Well, I was driving as light footed as I could, as well as my wife, and our city driving always hit 22mpg. Could not get it any better than that. Tried different brands of fuel, but nothing mattered. Well, I ended up swamping the thing in a freak flash flood, so replaced it with a bigger, better vehicle. I ended up getting a 2013 Nissan Altima. I consistently get 25 mpg city. I even got 41mpg highway on my last trip. It's rated at 38mpg highway, so I was very impressed. The ride is worlds better than the Hyundai Elantra and the car is quieter as well, not to mention it is fully loaded with more room all around. Much better car. I would have considered the Hyundai Sonata, until the gas mileage issues I was seeing, plus the issue with the computer telling me I was getting 2mpg better than I actually was. This made me think they were trying to deceive people, and so it boiled down to a car company I couldn't trust. Go with the Nissan, you won't regret it.
  • knocker81knocker81 Posts: 40
    edited November 2012
    Reply to Gman
    I don't rely on the trip computer for the mileage, I fill the car up, drive till I need gas again, record the miles and fill up, divide miles by gallons I put in tank. It's the only way to do it. I'm consistently at 24 or less. I've been driving the same way for 35 yrs, thanks but no thanks for the driving tips. You must be one of the lucky ones who gets good gas mileage. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I don't know if you've heard but Hyundai's stock has dropped because of false gas estimates, and there are already law suits started. Here's a tip...sell the Elantra and get a scooter.
  • gman4911gman4911 Posts: 43
    edited November 2012
    I've been driving the same way for 35 yrs, thanks but no thanks for the driving tips.
    Driving experience <> driving efficiently. Most people don't drive as efficiently as they think they do. Since you haven't yet demonstrated that you are knowlegeable about driving efficiently, I'm inclined to think that's where the problem lies.
    You must be one of the lucky ones who gets good gas mileage.
    Plenty of people getting good mileage. The fuel logs at fuelly.com shows the 2011-2013 Elantras averaging 30 MPG.
  • Like I said I drive all my cars the same and they're all in the ballpark...I don't need a car that I have to count ten before I stop or apply my brakes, I'll never get anywhere.

    Maybe people are getting 30, that must be highway..a far cry from 40!
  • gman4911gman4911 Posts: 43
    edited November 2012
    Maybe people are getting 30, that must be highway..a far cry from 40!
    The 30 MPG average is combined hwy/city.
    I don't need a car that I have to count ten before I stop or apply my brakes, I'll never get anywhere.
    Does driving faster to a stop light get you through the stop light faster?

    The goal of the counting exercise is to maximize the chance of not having to stop at the stop light because getting the car to move from a stopped position burns the most fuel. Not only that, you're wasting fuel when you're idle waiting for the light to turn green. The more you can minimize the stop & go city driving, the better your fuel efficiency.
  • Who ever said I driving faster to a stop light, you're just assuming. I guess you didn't really read my earlier post...I also have a Corolla (27/35) and I'm averaging 27 or better. Same driving, same gas station. So if I apply your driving tips maybe my Corolla will get the 40.
    I understand your whole concept but this thread is about the proven fact that the Elantra is not meeting the predicted mpg. I don't know where you live but have you heard the news lately, even their stock tumbled last week due to mpg ratings, If I could only get 27 (without driving like my grandfather) I'd be happy.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    I'd question your judgement in getting a new car based solely on 2 MPG difference unless you drive much more than average.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    Who said the "sole" reason he got a new car was to get two more mpg? I read his post to say he gave his Corolla to his son and bought a new car that on paper who give him as good or better mpg than his Corolla and he is getting much worse on the same commute and driving habits. Did he suddenly become a lot different type of driver because he got a new car? IMO most people tend to take it easy on a brand new car for awhile.
  • keyser2keyser2 Posts: 25
    edited November 2012
    I've owned three Hyundai's. While reliable, they were never competitive with rivals regarding gas mileage. I bought a new '07 Toyota RAV4 at the same time a friend bought a Santa Fe. I average 24 mpg in urban/suburban driving and my friend claims about 19. Pathetic!! Hyundai doesn't have their drivetrain tuning down like more established brands, including American
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