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Jaguar X-Type

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  • kssodkssod Posts: 37
    The saga continues... my 02 3.0 sport adriatic/dove with every option(x1,x2,x3,alpine,manual,xenons) stickered for 43k+, except nav and phone just had the 20k service. here is a list of problems that have been addressed over the pasr 16 months
    1) paint not smooth at delivery...was wet sanded
    2)boot latch replaced
    3) cooling fan relay replaced after overheating
    4) defroster vents still pop out... replaced several times
    5) driver door unable to open...latch assembly replaced 2x
    6) steering wheel vibration when braking ....wheels balanced then rotors replaced
    7) fuel gauge reads empty after filling up. gas tank and sending unit replaced
    8) car over heats again... same repair as (3) with the addition of a new thermostat
    9) headlight washers popoff....reattached
    10)steering wheel still vibrates... tires rebalanced and road forced, problem unresolved front brakes replaced again. rotors susceptible to warping if lug nuts not torqued in proper order
    11) multiple interior rattles especially from sun roof button... repaired or replaced trim as needed
    12) I may have missed one or two items the list is too long. Unfortunately, the value has dropped too much and I can't trade for a like 03. Nothing else has any style. It is a great car to drive, and is awesome in the snow. Fortunately I have gone to a new dealer and the master tech is outstanding
  • Ouch, looks like yours hit them all. I still haven't had any of the problems - glad your master tech is outstanding and hope everything continues to work out fine without anything else needing to be fixed.
  • http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,495- 0081%255E13232,00.html

    Just found the review above. It's an Australian review of a 2.1-liter X-type so all of the performance is off from the 2.5's and 3.0's that we have in the U.S. Although the car lacked in the performance area with the tiny engine, the 2.1 X-type still outscored competitors like the Lexus ES300, new Saab 9-3, and even its big-brother XK8. Needless to say, they liked it.
  • kssodkssod Posts: 37
    seems like we have an eye for nice cars

    kss od
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    Along with developing a new XJ-Series car to replace the aging old one (though I still like it a lot), Jaguar also developed a new 3.5-liter engine which will be launched with the new XJ, which will also be available with the 3.0-liter AJ-V6 engine from the X-type and the bored-out 4.2-liter AJ-V8 in normal and supercharged forms.

    Well, all of the early reports had stated that the X-type R would have a supercharged version of the new Jaguar 3.5-liter V6 engine, which until recently was thought of as myth. Yet, the 3.5 engine is now here.

    Rumors are that the X-type's existing 3.0-liter engine will be replaced by the 3.5-liter or the engine will be added to the lineup, as well as to the S-type's and it's already in the new XJ's. With Nissan's 3.5 liter engine in its products including its Infiniti lineup, and the new Lexus IS being scheduled to have a V8 option, and with Volvo getting R-badged cars, and Audi with its new S4, and BMW with a newly tuned 3-Series sport, the 3.5 seems like a viable addition to the X-type lineup to keep the car in the top of the power ladder.

    Any thoughts? I wonder what the horsepower ratings will be. I wouldn't be surprised to see the engine turn up in most all of Jaguar's products.
  • mjc440mjc440 Posts: 76
    A 3.5 Liter will certainly make Jag more competive. Is this a new block or is it derived from the Ford Duratec block?
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    From all the information I have, all it says is that the engine is "new". I'm not sure how far the current AJ-V6 block can be bored out to; the AJ-V8's 4.2 liter size is about as large as that block can be bored out to, and the next larger engine than the 4.2 will have to be based on a larger block. Jaguar's re-engineered version of the Duratec block is one of the highest-output 3.0-liter-ish engines available, making 240 horsepower in the S-type and 231 in the X-type. By comparison, Mercedes' 3.2 liter engine makes 215 horsepower and BMW's 3.0 makes 225 hp. It's ahead of the European competition, but with the newer Japanese 3.5 liter engines making 260 hp, the extra half-liter seems to be where the market is moving. I believe Mercedes now has an ML350 out, which would indicate a new 3.5 liter engine, and BMW's next-generating 3 will have a 3.3 or 3.5 liter engine. I'm glad Jaguar is staying competitive - I love my car!
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Blew the doors off a 330i today; he and I had a lot of fun weaving in and out of traffic about 35 mph more than we should have been going. A Maxima joined in, and was surprisingly faster than I estimated he would be, though he seemed to be working a little harder than Bimmer and me. All of these cars are awesome at speed and truly a lot of fun. Also, I happened to get shunted off onto the freeway during this little competition of ours (with the other cars) and ended up in some strange neighboring area. People in the other cars in traffic literally pressed their faces against the glass of their cars to look at the X, as if it was something special ;-) I love this car!
  • crashxcrashx Posts: 2
    I purchased the x-type in dec 2002 (my 1st jag). I crashed and totaled 1st jag in feb 2003. Fortunately my insurance paid off my outstanding load balance with $300. back to me? I am jumping back onto the horse as I am preparing to order another x-type. My Question: Does Jag offer previous buyers any incentives or discounts on subsequent jag purchases? Thanks in advance for any insight. crashx
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    Ouch! Sorry to hear about the crash and hope you're okay.

    While I don't know of any incentives that Jaguar has for repeat buyers, the people at Jagtalk or xk8.net might.

    Also, your dealer will probably knock the price down since you'd be buying another car from them. My dealer took the price down on my X-type since we had purchased an S-type just 1.5 - 2 years earlier.

    So, are you going to get a "twin" of the original Jag, or will you go for a different color, etc?
  • crashxcrashx Posts: 2
    Thanks for your quick response. I do want to replace my crashed jag with a "twin" (I never enjoyed driving a car so much) but my original dealer does not have the car in stock with all of the options of my original.

    I had the 2.5 x-type Quartz with navigational system plus many other upgrades. It seems jag does not stock many with nav. especially with my specific request (color/options). I was lucky to find the one I wanted. The dealership (north jersey, 2.5 hours from home) was the only one that had that specific car in stock.

    I am prepared to wait if I have to order the car. My business has me on the roads often, and the jag nav. system was amazing. It has never steered me wrong in the confusing street of Phila, New York or DC, which is saying alot!

    Thanks again and I will check with Jagtalk and xk8.net. BTW, I faired much better than the car. crashx
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    >Ouch! Sorry to hear about the crash and hope you're okay.

    >I faired much better than the car.

    >Good! I'm very glad and happy to hear it.

    I know you've probably already asked your dealer, but I'll just say this in case it slipped by:

    Before ordering - if you don't want to wait - have your dealer phone other dealers to see if they have a "twin" of your last Jag. Jaguar has a vast network for tracking all of its cars - even used cars are tracked by Jaguar. If a dealer near enough has the combo you want, they can trade your dealer for it and then deliver it for you.

    If this helps, I'm glad it did. If it didn't, sorry to waste your time. Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Jagboy

    P.S. - Since your new X-type will be a 2003, it will probably come with some really nice options your last one didn't have too!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    They can do a search via DCS.. I'm sure a Quartz 2.5 with Navi is out there somewhere.

    Glad to hear you are OK tho! Jag has done $1,000 owner loyalty credits in the past.. I'd call 1-800-4-JAGUAR and see if they know.

    Bill
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    Its a V8, not a V6. I'm pretty sure its the same engine family as the 4.0/4.2, but could verify that if anyone cares. The new 3.5 develops 262bhp & 254lbft(DIN)and replaces the 3.2L V8 that was available in the X300 in europe.

    I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a V8 powered X-type in the near future.
  • Perhaps someone will be good enough to give me some advice. Just get an 03 2.5X, and love it.
    Financial considerations prevented me from getting one with a CD, but would like to know how I can get an aftermarket unit. Can anyone suggest a good unit I can get installed?
    Thanks,
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    You can use any aftermarket cd changer that is FM modulated - it just broadcasts the CD signal on a FM radio frequency. Sound quality will be the same as a really good FM station. If you want better you'll have to get the factory changer (the cables are usually vehicle specific). www.radiosandmore.com sells domestic OEM radios at a decent price but I don't see any jag equipment. Have you priced one at the dealer? Sometimes the dealer prices aren't too bad. Or maybe one of the Jag owners can give you an aftermarket source for OEM changers. You won't be able to just plug in an aftermarket changer even if it's the same manufacturer because of the cabling.
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    That's a good and common question. The only unit I know of that I have *read* works with the advanced fiberoptic electrical system of the X-type is the Sony X-plode series of CD changers and players. They have a compatible linkup with the system, or so I've read.

    And make sure you set your radio settings to "Europe" for better reception - it activates the FM boost for the car and clears up the radio.

    Cheers,
    Jagboy

    P.S. - Jaguar also has an indash CD player that costs around $200.
  • rstoergerrstoerger Posts: 17
    I have had my S-type for nearly three years and honestly love it. Never had any major issues. I am about to end this lease and have been considering getting into a brand new one...which has some excellent improvements.

    While the past two winters have been mild, this year's has not. My car does not do well at all in even the mildest slush. As such, I am reconsidering getting into a new one lest the upcoming winters be bad.

    Has anyone had either positive or negative issues regarding S-Types in Snow. How about the four-wheel drive X-Type?
  • care4tcare4t Posts: 8
    Rstoerger-

    I live in Northern Va and we have had a series of major snows this winter. And, having owned 991/2 A4 with Quattro system prior to acquiring X-type, I was able to compare the handlings of two in snowy conditions. Although I am quite satisfied with the drivability of X-Type in snow and would recommend to people who are looking for AWD, my honest assessment compared to A4 is that A4 offered a more stable AWD mechanism than X-type. However, I am very impressed with the DSC (Digital Stability Control?) feature. It literally prevented the car from wobbling side to side a number of times.

    This is strictly based on my personal experience only.
  • bull02bull02 Posts: 4
    I just bought a Black 02 Xtype and i am thinking about taking the car to have the car buffed.
    Anyone have any insite or advise?
    The place i talked to said it would make the car finish like new.
    BTW there isnt many scratch only a few swirl marks

    Any advise?
  • desertguydesertguy Posts: 730
    jeffc1 "Black Paint Maintenance" Feb 10, 2002 3:00pm!make=CATS&model=Paint&ed_makeindex=.ef094ab

    Clicking the above link will take you to the black paint discussion which is read only now. Some interesting stuff though.
  • msisengmsiseng Posts: 369
    Why not just buy a hand-held navigation system online or from a store? That way, you can transfer it between vehicles. Mine works very well technically. Put it up against my friend's X-Type (we all got the same cars with different options) and it is equally as good!

    Granted, it is not as easy to use, but may be an option for those that cannot find the X-Type with a Navi system.

    Jaguar does have a customer loyalty program for those asking. From the moment you buy or lease a vehicle from Jaguar, you are automatically enrolled in the program. There are hidden incentives if you ask your dealer.

    Does anyone else feel a hesitation when driving from 10 mph to 20 mph with the automatic 2.5? Once past the 20 mph mark, the hesitation is gone. Is this common for the X-Type?
  • Intermittently during normal driving, when I release the brake pedal I get the "click" in the gear shift that you get when you release from park. It does not always happen. When I took it to service, they said it was normal; if it ALWAYS happened I may agree but it doesn't. Has anyone else had this noise?
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    msiseng-

    My 3.0 auto used to have a little bit of a hesitation from the start, but by my first free scheduled service, my dealer's tune-up of the car eliminated the hesitation. I'm not sure what they did, but when I got the car back, it was very much smoother than it had ever been, and it launches just as quickly, but with more refinement - less of a lurch. Perhaps this will happen at your next service? You could also ask your tech about it, because your car does not have to hesitate.

    geecheewheels-

    The click is caused by something happening with the selenoid (?) (that's what I've read it being called, I hope I spelled it correctly) in the transmission. The exact same thing happened to my car, but I mentioned it to my dealer at the first service, and they took care of it - no more click! Don't take that BS from your dealer about it being "normal" because it isn't supposed to do that and it can be fixed very easily - my dealer did it for me, yours can for you!
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    Recently, some other Jaguar owners have spotted X-type Sport models with natural wood colors and the chrome blades that the luxury versions of the car have. So now with Sport X-types, you have your choice of R-type grey-stained wood and body color or black accents, or natural wood and chrome accents. More choices is always better.
  • bull02bull02 Posts: 4
    Can anyone tell me how to change disks with the cd changer?
    I loaded 6 cd's into the cartridge but i cant figure out how to change from 1 disk to another.
    I'm still waiting for my owners manual so i thought i would ask here.

    thanks
  • kssodkssod Posts: 37
    Bull02
    while cd is playing numbers 1-6 on the phone pad load the CD in their respective tray.
    Also the select button on the steering wheel audio control can switch between AM/FM/ CD, once in cd the toggle for stations now controls the track on the CD. If you hold the toggle in for several seconds it will load the next CD either up or down.
  • bull02bull02 Posts: 4
    kssod
    thanks for the info
    i have had my jag x for over a month and i still dont have the owners manual.
    i have talked to my dealer a few times telling them i still dont have the owners manual

    thanks
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    if you register on http://www.myjaguar.com you have access to a pdf version of the owners manual, as well as almost all other documentation.
  • From my last entry I have had a little advice on how to get a CD changer for my 03 X Type, that came without. Here is what I have learned. The local dealer will install a "factory" unit for only $1300! Some say that the Sony E-plod is compatable, but my email to them returned a negative answer. Also, they seem to be affiliated strongly with Crutchfield, who tells me that none of their units is compatable with my car. Still looking for ideas. Thanks.
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    According to this site, which is updated frequently:

    http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/- 23253.htm

    the X-type is to get an R-badged version in 2004 as a 2005 model, along with a new 3.2 liter engine added to the range.

    "Jaguar is plowing ahead with an X-Type wagon and hot R-models. The wagon reportedly bows overseas in spring 2004. U.S. sales should begin very soon afterwards, probably with the same V6 powerteams offered in sedans. Like the BMW 3-Series and Mercedes C-Class wagons, the X-Type emphasizes luxury and sporty handling over outright space and utility. Structure is reportedly the same as the sedan's from the rear doors forward, but the roofline tapers down to a trim liftgate with separate opening window.

    The X-Type R should be here by early 2005, assuming it's not delayed for some reason [(think XJ8)]. A sedan is assured, a wagon version possible. Chief attractions are a supercharged V6 with upwards of 330 hp, plus firmed-up suspension, less exterior chrome, a mesh grille, and standard 19-inch wheels and tires, but no garish rear spoiler or "aero" body skirts. British guesstimates have the R-model sedan doing 0-60 in just 5 sec and 160 mph all-out...

    ...A final X-Type rumor concerns the current 3.0-liter V6, which reportedly gives way to a more potent 3.2 sometime soon, perhaps as early as model-year '04. We'll keep you posted."

    Another Jag-talker found this information, so credit goes to him. The article is supposed to be from 3/12/2003.
    _________________________________

    In other news, there's a little motorsports/car-tuner shop in my town that fixes up and sells high-performance luxury cars; the X-type has become the "halo car" of the place, with a few very nice tuned-up Sport models around on display. They don't do exterior mods, just performance ones to the drivetrains. I'll check the place out a little more... fun stuff.
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