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Jaguar X-Type

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  • Are you getting AWD with your BMW 5 Series? If you live in an area that has harsh winters, you may want an AWD car.

    Outside of that, if you can get a 5 series for the same price as the X-Type and you're happy with the look of the Beemer, go for it.

    JAG
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Posts: 341
    no... so far as I know the 5 as of yet doesn't come in the AWD yet; which I wouldn't get anyways.
  • I think I get it now. You would not want an X-Type if you have no interest in AWD. You would be paying for AWD since it is standard.

    Have you driven an AWD car before? It will give you a much better feel of the road and will be more stable in heavy rain and bad winter weather.
    I don't mean to try persuade you. I feel that you would not have come to this board if you didn't have an interest in the X-Type. I've never driven a BMW so I cannot compare the two. I can only tell you that I'm very pleased with my 3.0 manual.
     IMHO BMW's are dull looking and there's so many on the road that they are no longer distinctive.

    I have the premium sound from 2002. 10 speakers, 180 watts. It sounds great and seems to fill up the car since the car is not very big. The new sound system must really be spectactular.
    JAG
  • I used to have a Subaru.. most confidence I have ever had driving a car in inclement weather.. Scary actually... an quto bimmer? yuck... If you r going to get that car, please get a stick if u can..
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Posts: 341
    I don't know... the D series is nice, but I'm affraid that this month the so called specal lease rate, appearently the interest rates changed this month and the payment for a 5 seies shot up drastically by like 170$. if this holds true and I can't afford to get into the 5 then I believe that I will seriously debate between the X type and the G. I like them both nearly equally. the G has the power which I love, but the X has like you said the handleing and feal of the road thing. (I also like that its AWD standard) I like the 5 but I know that its really streatching the my limits so I 'm thinking that I may want to regardless of how I like the 5 , I may wish to get the X or the G and be able to live a bit easier. thanks for the help... oh yeah I was thinking about getting an stick, I'm 20 but I'm worried about stick in the winter, I live were it can get pretty hairy on some occarsions. ya'll said you had a stick on your 3.0 X, how do you like it.
  • mjc440mjc440 Posts: 76
    Just curious - How quick was the 5 Series with the 2.5 auto compared to the Jag X 3.0 auto (assuming you tested the Jag)? There's about a 40 hp difference between the two.

    It looks like you're still on your search. My advice is to take your time and get the car you want. I'd also recommend being carefull not to over spend on a car. Be sure to take into considerantion the insurance, maintenance, etc. on your car. Insurance for a male under 25 is usually high to begin with; a $40K BMW isn't going to help. You don't want to work just for your car.

    Anyways, good luck with your search. Let us know how you make out.
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Posts: 341
    yeah... actually the 525 with the way its tuned feals to excelerate a little faster than the X.. i've driven both... now the G out excells them both by a long shot ... but its interior isn't as good, but it shur can drive though... so if I can't work out the 5 deal then I'm gonna choose between the G and the X... they where my original 2 choices till I looked @ the 5. we're going to go and get prices and argue about everything this weekend... and if things don't do well...then I still love both the G and the X so it'll be one of them... I'm thinking about looking into the G 35 AWD and see if that drives a bit better... (live in a snowy area)
  • I don't know what you mean when you say you're "worried about a stick in the winter". Once you get the hang of it, a stick will give you as many or more options to get out of a ditch or dangerous situation than an automatic. Of course, before you spend that kind of money, try to do some extensive stick driving to see if it's for you.

    Like I said, I haven't driven the other cars but I can tell you that the 3.0 X-Type has a great deal of peppiness (is that a word?) and will merge on a busy highway with ease.

    Good luck with your choice.

    JAG
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    thought i would chime in as my wife and i are looking at the X type, and having had Silverado's for the past 4 years and have felt that they were pretty safe until yesterday..............took the drive in a 2.5 Xtype on a windy road north of town on a rainy day............couldn't believe it!!!
    this car is something else.........i felt so good in the car that i literally hated getting back into the Silverado.
    the dealer couldn't have been any nicer as well.........we selected what we feel we'd like (color and options) and they are going to bring one in so that we can decide if it is what we want..........no obligation to buy it, just make sure that it's what we want, or maybe upgrade even further.
    problem now is whether or not to go for the 3.0 package............any suggestions?

    BTW, we were at one time interested in Beemers as well, but no AWD?.........forget it.
  • seelig: I would upgrade to the 3.0 and not just because I have one. With the intro of the '04 model, they have dropped the price considerably since I bought my '02. It used to be 6-7K more than the 2.5 but now is more like 2-3K. I believe some options on the 2.5 are standard on the 3.0 as well but I have not been shopping for a new Jaguar for a while, just what I see posted. My wife loves our XType so it is hard for me to get seat time!
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    can i assume that all the bugs have been worked out?
    i have been reading through this thread have have seen some complaints about auto transmission failures...........my real estate agent has a '02 that has had the transmission and driveline replaced due to failure.
  • Most buyers of '03 or '04 models have not had any of the problems of the first year cars. That said, I have an early build 10/01 car and have had no problems. Remember reading these boards that people with complaints are prone to post and make up the largest share of posters. This is true for any make. Happy campers seldom post.
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    in the 04 3.0 they dropped the price $3K and included $2.5K worth of options -- the difference is really closer to $500 between the 3.0 and the 2.5.

    you said you were interested in a bimmer. but lost interest because of awd. bmw offers awd in the 330 (330 xi) as well as the 325 (325 xi) - you might want to look into it. personally, i'd get the x (especially now with the price drop on the 3.0), but so you don't wonder "what if" a visit to the local bmw shop might be in order.

    comparably equipped, an 04 x-type 3.0 is now about $5K-$7K less than an 04 330 xi.
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    Both BMW AND Mercedes offer AWD. The C class is available in AWD.
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    I like the looks of the X-type, but the nearest Jaguar dealer is about an hour drive in morning or evening traffic.
    I would take a chance on reliability if I could get warranty service near home or work. Right now, it would be a huge hassle to get warranty repairs done.
    I heard they are thinking about combining Jaguar and Range Rover dealerships.
    There is a RR dealer a more resonable distance from work, so I might take the gamble if that plan ever comes to life and I could get maintenance and warranty work done there.
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    actually it is more so that the look of the car is what attracted me to the X..............i didn't know that beemers now had AWD, but i'd still choose the Jag.
    it'll be about a month before we make the purchase as we are closing escrow on our new home, then the car............we've decided on the 3.0...........thanks to you all and i'll do a followup when i bring it home........;-))
  • I bought my XType in the Los Angeles area where there are many, many dealers. I have since moved to the Midwest where the closest dealer is about 90 miles from me. If I had known about this situation before I purchased the Jaguar, I would have looked for another brand. The same dealer that is 90 miles away is the closest Lexus dealer. The way this dealer sells cars in my area is to offer free pickup with a loaner left for your use for any service on a car purchased from them. They have several employees who do nothing but drive out to owners homes and drive their cars back for service. Cars that cannot be driven are flat- bedded to the dealer. I don't qualify since I didn't purchase the car from this dealer but they treat me well and have supplied free Jag. loaners in the past.
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Posts: 341
    well this is the last week for me to teader between cars, next weekend my father and I are going to sit down and purchase a car. I like that the G has so much power (and that its shiftable) plus theres the release of the new 04 with the AWD option but I don't think I'd take it since its a 1800 option and puts it higher than the X... now the X I love its exterior look, the fact that its a jag, AWD, but I sortta mis maving the kick the G has plus the shiftable part as well... I don't drive stick so its as close to it I can come . I'm sortta leaning towards the X, but I can't decide if I want the G because its sportier.. I'm officially lost on what to do now.
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    carefully considering this option as i do love my music during travel, but i'd sure like to hear from those who have it and whether or not it's worth it.
    obviously the head unit is the same, but is the standard system capable of owner upgrades?
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    be very sure you like the standard system if you buy the car with it -- very difficult to upgrade. the fibre optic system makes it almost impossible to use after market products while still controlling the system through the head unit and steering wheel controls. you can upgrade speakers, but that's about it. you can't even add a changer in the trunk, other than the "jaguar" version.
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    that's what i'm thinking, and i don't really want to tear into the car later.
    what i need to find out is if it's worth paying the extra for the upgraded system...........
  • msisengmsiseng Posts: 369
    From past postings you know I have both the Jag X and the Infiniti G35. Stay far away from Infiniti. The G35 brake issue and lack of decent service alone is enough to scare people.

    No question the Jag is far superior in every facet EXCEPT engine power. The Infiniti G35 is screaming fast (and currently has an engine recall) and a Jag is a Jag. The AWD got us through last winter's North Eastern blizzard with flying colors. The gas mileage is also superior to that of the G35.

    I have nothing to say but good things about the Jag and the fine service provided.
  • cjs2002cjs2002 Posts: 341
    I know ... its comming down to the wire now and I really can't decide which I like more. I like how quite the X rides and your right with AWD it handles like a dream... i test drove it on a rainy day and it was great not to just sit and spin the tires when your trying to start from a light... I also drove the G that same day in the rain... I like the front end of this car, and I'm not to fond of the rear. as for the interior I find it to be ok, but when compared to the acuras its seriously lacking, something about the X's interior also doestn't look nice, the radio buttons and that center dash area looks almost fordish to me... but the seats and everything else are great. I loved the Gs power, unfortunatly it does have the ability to spin its tires severly if you punch on a rainy day like i did, yet if you drive normally the systems seem to kick in and work just fine... I recently looked at the new acura tl and love the interior fit and finish, as for everything else ... naa... it didn't strick my fancy, for one its front wheel drive and with 270hp it doestn't feal nearly as strong as the G, I'd even go so far as to say it feels a bit less than the X off the line, and as for ride, well I didn't like it, you could here and feal every bump in the road, you can also here other motorists, you don't notice this as much in the X, and a little more than the G, but deffinatly the X is the quitist of the bunch... its a toss up now between the X and the G, I'm going with my father and ask for his opinion on the two and see what he thinks... (though in his mind he wants me to get a C MB which I'm relucktannt to go and do )
  • "...the radio buttons and that center dash area looks almost fordish to me... "

    I thought the X was a rebadged Ford, some model sold in Europe (Mondeo?)? Anybody know how different the X is from the Ford version?
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    with a name like carguy you should know better.

    the x-type doesn't share a single -- not 1 -- visible part with the mondeo. it shares 6 hardpoints on the chassis, that's it! in total (including things like water pumps, screws, etc) it shares less than 20% of parts with the mondeo. The Lexus RX shares more than 60% with the camry!

    audis are far more similar to vw's and the new chrysler crossfire is far more similar to a c-class MB than the x is to the mondeo.

    as for the buttons looking "fordish" i understand this is subjective, but based on facts alone, not a single ford has the same buttons. the only cars that have the buttons are other jags and astons.
  • in regards to the question does if the x type shares parts with Ford, why is it that in the car reviews they don't say what specific parts are really ford parts. Its interesting that you mention that xtype shares only 6 hard points. these people who do the reviews can mislead future buyers. i am in the market for getting the 2004 x.-type , but all the reviews i have read are giving me doubts. i would appreciate any advise from current owners?thanks
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    and in some cases, completely fictitous (as in when they say the x-type is based on the contour - not a single shared anything there). they never seem to bring it up in relation to lexus, audi, acura, etc. i guess there's a different standard for jag. in terms of x-type, they share parts that would make no sense redeveloping (i.e., fuel pump, water lines, etc) as well as the aforementioned hard parts. the mondeo chassis was the base for the x-type. it was then dramatically modified by jaguar in both size and strength to the point of sharing only 6 hard points. the s-type is far more closely related to the lincoln ls than the x is to the mondeo.
  • msisengmsiseng Posts: 369
    Ok, I love my X-Type. I also was told the 2.5 L engine made in Cleveland Ohio is the SAME engine used in the Coutour? Isn't the S-Type 3.0 L engine the same as the Lincoln 3.0 L? Can anyone confirm or deny?
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    anybody here go for this option?
  • seeligseelig Posts: 590
    current offer from one dealer is to give me the 2004 X-tpye with 3.0 for $32,050.00...........ifeel this is fair, but maybe i should hold out???
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