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2013 Dodge Dart

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    No, I don't think you're being picky. I can't remember the last time I had one of my cars (2.0L, 2.4L) north of 4000 RPM. Maybe one day several months ago when I was racing my daughter to the ER. I don't put the pedal to the metal like I did when I was... uh... much younger.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,167
    edited April 2012
    Will the Chevy Cruze and Sonic 1.4 turbo last as long as the naturally aspirated 1.8? Same question could be applied to the 1.4 T vs. the NA 2.0 in the Dart, ot the !.6 T vs. the NA 2.5 in the '13 Fusion. Maybe with synthetic oil they'll both easily go over 200,000 or more miles, in which case it wouldn't matter. Or, maybe not. Does anyone here know whether sufficiently greater strength is designed into these small turbo motors to compensate for the additional stress?

    Also, how do the maintenance schedules compare?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,146
    for me, the 2.0 sounds like the best option for a long term relationship.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    I think turbo motors have a harder life in general, yes. They are often given some special internal components, sure, but not necessarily what one might term "re-inforcement".

    With turbos you're often operating at higher heat ranges, and one presumes (one hopes) that most drivers have the pedal to the metal--or in the case of european engines, their boot in the boschware.

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  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    10 year/100,000 mile powertrain warranties are the norm these days and the engines are bench-tested and proven to last far beyond that. Most of these turbos operate at low boost pressure also, there is not that much additional stress on the engine unless unless run at high RPMs for extended periods of time.

    Small displacement gasoline-powered turbo engines appear to be the wave of the future and with good reason. You can get good performance and good fuel economy - usually not at the same time though!
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited May 2012
    ...is up on youtube. Very nice report (starts at 1:15 of the video ) and is worth 4 minutes of your time.

    Link to MT Review
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    Odd review--nothing of real substance in it that you couldn't just read about. Why did they bother to drive it? Well I guess it wasn't aimed at gearheads.

    I did laugh at the comment that with a 160HP turbo engine "your kids couldn't get into too much trouble". Oh, yeah? Really?

    Now that I don't know any more about the car than before I watched the video, i guess I'm gonna have go find one and post my own review :P

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  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,167
    If you post your review, we'll be sure to read it.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    You'll be waiting a couple months. They won't be on dealer lots until around the 4th of July. In the meantime, there are several reviews up on youtube.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    I know a Chrysler dealer so I'll keep my eye on it. I kinda like reviews that show what the car is to drive in everyday use, and to really amplify the good parts and show the unacceptable. I think I'll like the car though, especially the turbo.

    And I promise, no BAD car review music!

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  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited May 2012
    ...today in Belvidere. Looks pretty good! Short article from the Detroit Free Press at the link.

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    Detroit Free Press
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    First one was red--a good sign!

    One thing about the Dart that doesn't appeal to me is how wide the car is. It's 2-3 inches wider than a typical compact. I know that will appeal to many buyers. But I like small cars because they're... small. As in, easy to park. And the width of parking spaces seems to be shrinking over time. Sometimes it's a squeeze even for my Sentra, and that car isn't that wide.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    Next time I drive by the Belvidere plant I'll be looking for that red one out front! Yep, it is wide and that should a huge selling point for those downsizing from larger vehicles. It is a full 2" wider than the new VW Jetta which is one of the larger vehicles in the class. No more rubbing shoulders in the front seats just because you buy a compact. ;)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    That's just the thing... I'm nowhere close to rubbing shoulders with the front passenger. If the extra width is put to good use in back, that would be a plus. I can't think of a compact where 3 adults can be comfortable in back. Not many mid-sized cars, either.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,146
    a couple of different reviews showed up in my local papers over the weekend. Very positive overall. Can't wait to get one out for a test drive.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    Chrysler is doing very well these days.

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  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited May 2012
    I like the extra width because I wear a 44" jacket and XXL shirt size. With a large person next to me, elbow room is minimal in most compacts. This new Dodge will offer something other compacts don't - extra width.

    I found a couple rear seat images on the web and the width is evident in the photos. Middle rear seat passenger space is always tight unless you're in a full-size vehicle and even some of them are cozy.

    The compact class is the U.S. market is now loaded with nice cars. A big plus for the American consumer.

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  • robtroxelrobtroxel Posts: 103
    I have been looking at the Buick Verano and waiting for the Acura ILX. The Dart has my attention due to the room factor and the supension lifted from Italy. Anyone seen these at the dealer yet? I hate that the Verano has a cheap beam rear axle instead of an independant suspension. The pricing on the ILX looks way to high but we'll see how it would lease out.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    robtroxel: The new Dart is not expected to hit dealerships until late June/early July.

    The Acura ILX is a nice looking car but does seem pricey. Fuel economy numbers are good though. The Verano is a bit of a disappointment in the mileage rating department. If I buy a small car, I'll be looking for better than 25mpg combined. Now a Verano Turbo with a 6-speed stick as a sports sedan would be a different story!
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    The Dart configurator is up and running at KBB now.

    Dart on KBB

    :)
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