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Hyundai Sonata Hybrid--Real World MPG

nascarnolenascarnole Posts: 2
edited February 7 in Hyundai
I am considering buying a Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and read a MotorTrend article stating it gets far less fuel mileage than the EPA estimates. Please let me know what kind of mileage you are getting with this car and what your city/highway driving mix is. Thanks so much!
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  • I have Sonanta Hybrid 2011 basic model.

    Yesterday i've refilled my HSH and get 37.8 MPG.
    City 20% / Highway 80% driving.
  • I've had my 2011 Sonata Hybrid since August 2011. most of my driving is city driving. I have yet to break 25 mpg in the city. Very disappointed. Hyundai even closed my case I opened on the gas mileage suggesting they tested it at 36 city- when it was never tested other than highway. When it snows- its between 16 & 17 mpg!
  • sreed85sreed85 Posts: 1
    I don't get better than 25 city and 32 highway. No where near what I was told at the dealership. I'm sorely disappointed. There was a lady who successfully sued Honda over her hybrid not getting the mileage suggested by the manufacturer. Class action?
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  • I've had my HSH for a little over 2 months now and love the car.

    I do a lot of highway driving and typically get 40mpg during the week.

    On the weekends when the wife and I do a lot of city (stop n go) driving I'm typically getting about 33mpg.

    So, it depends on the type of driving that you're doing as well as how you drive. I don't drive like a teenager for example (and I'm not inferring that those not getting the proper MPG values do) but I have noticed that by doing a couple of minor driving techniques will improve the MPG you get.

    For example, use Cruise Control as often as possible. The on board computer does a better job of it than your foot does.

    Instead of driving at 65 MPH where posted, set your cruise control to 62-63 (and get in the slow lane)... you'll see an extra 1 to 2 miles per gallon doing this.

    You'll also see more tips on this link (Hyundai Forums - Sonata Hybrid)
  • shybridshybrid Posts: 8
    I have had my Sonata Hybrid since May of 2011. I am currently averaging 35 mpg, and I drive a pretty even mix of city, highway and freeway. The product collateral that was available when I purchased my car said mileage would range 35 - 40. This has been the warmest winter we've ever had, so I'm disappointed in the mileage. I feel a little better seeing some of the other responses (my mpg isn't as bad). However, when I think of the extra money I paid for the hybrid it's very discouraging, when the regular engine version gets 40. I've also had trouble with the bluetooth. I'd suggest that you make sure your phone has been tested with the bluetooth in the car, if that's important to you. They can look it up in their system.
  • jaybpjaybp Posts: 1
    Shybrid, we should talk I have been to dealer 3 times about mileage. We just did a test ordered by the regional office and we got 29 mpg. I spoke with Chet from regional office. Rude rude rude! I can't believe they have someone that rude in PR? I would like to do something locally about it maybe 2 cam accomplish more than one?
  • dc_driverdc_driver Posts: 712
    Just to be clear, the regular Sonata is not rated 40mpg for city/highway. It is rated 22 city, 34 highway and combined 26mpg. You are getting 9mpg better than the combined 26mpg the non hybrid model is rated at. And depending on where you live, what kind of gas you use (ethanol), your driving habits, etc you probably would not see 26mpg combined on the regular model. More like 24mpg. My recommendation would be to read up on hypermiling and try some of those techniques if you have not already. Using those techniques, I can usually equal or better the EPA estimate on the Mazda, Hyundai, and Honda models I have owned. That said, I don't like driving that conservative and typically get well under the EPA estimate. The fact that your within 2mpg of the EPA estimate for combined driving is not really that bad. In the winter I would be lucky to get that in any of my vehicles. Typically I am a good 3-5mpg under the estimate.
  • shybridshybrid Posts: 8
    edited April 2012
    When I bought my car, the product sheet that I still have, says 35/40. With a footnote **EPA estimates. So the information you have is not the same info I have. I'm looking at it right now.

    I would not have bought this car if I thought the MPG was less than 35.
  • shybridshybrid Posts: 8
    please let me know how to get in touch with you.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Posts: 712
    edited April 2012
    I am confused. When you said the "regular" version of the Sonata gets 40mpg, I assumed you meant the non-hybrid Sonata?

    I am also confused when you say

    "I would not have bought this car if I thought the MPG was less than 35. "

    You said you were getting 35mpg?

    The actual EPA information as stated on the Sonata Hybrid is the following:
    EPA Economy Estimates:
    City: "Expected range for most drivers is 29 to 41 MPG"
    Highway: "Expected range for most drivers is 33 to 47 MPG"

    This is right off the EPA Estimate sticker that is on every Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. At 35 MPG for driving, you are well within the stated EPA estimates. And you are getting approximately 9 MPG better than the non-hybrid version.
  • shybridshybrid Posts: 8
    ok - sorry for the confusion. Here is my reality -

    The sales guy at the dealership was trying to talk me into buying a regular Sonata on the lot. At the time I started looking, they didn't even have a hybrid yet. He told me that the regular Sonatas consistently got 40 MPG or better. Again - trying to sell me inventory on the lot. And maybe there were other reasons he did not press to sell me a hybrid.

    But because I wanted the hybrid for various reasons, and the product material that was available at that time (Feb/Mar 2011) said the Hybrid would get 35-40 MPG, I waited for the Hybrid. Right now I'm getting 35. I want and expect more. I understand the variations of drivers, seasons, etc., but I don't care about that. I care about the reason I bought it, what I was told, the printed material I have.

    My comment about not buying a car with less than 35 MPG estimate - was meant for any car - hybrid or not from Hyundai. There are other alternatives.

    No need to reply - I appreciate your previous attempts to help. Bottom line - I'm not satisfied.
  • dawson46dawson46 Posts: 2
    City driving 24 MPG, Highway 33. We get the bluelink reports that nothing is wrong.

    Very, very frustrated. At the very least we expected 30 city. In my opinion, the gas engine kicks in when its really not needed. The batteries never say 100% and seem to drain immediately.
  • After having a few efficiency oriented cars and keeping good records for at least 3000 miles in each here is my mpg experience. My freeway speed is probably 67-71 mph. My metro area is 300k and there are 10 stop lights on the way to work. I set tires 2-3 psi high. 2007 Saturn Aura 4 cylinder 24 mixed 31 highway, VW tdi wagon 35 mixed 47 highway, Honda insight 41 mixed 46 highway, 2012 Sonata hybrid 36 mixed and 44 highway. Owner impressions for anyone shopping: 1) The tdi mpg drops off more in cold weather than I expected and worse on short trops than the hybrids. The torque is great and this car positively eats hilly roads. 2) The insight is kinda slow and gets part of its efficiency by being light. It blows around in the wind more than the others. Currently it is being used by a grad student child of mine who loves it. 3) The Sonata conventional transmission is probably a limiting factor. Usually it runs eV (efficient) to about 18 mph and is shifting into 3rd gear as the engine starts. It shifts into 6th at about 40 mph on level ground and gets nice mileage above that speed. In 3rd to 5th gears it does not seem that efficient. Climbing modest hills in town at 35-40 where the Honda or VW would impress me with over 30-35 mpg on the instant readout the Sonata will show 22.5 or less mpg. I have dropped accelerating slowly through this speed range and go straight from 20 to 40 mph (or higher climbing a hill) without hesitation. Vs camry hybrid list price is $500 less but my best deal was about $2200 better. I usually buy but put this car on lease and will decide later if it is a keeper.
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  • I purchased my hybrid in March 2012, and have done the fuel estimates and are only getting around 32 highway and 23 city. I would not buy this car until Hyundai figures out what is wrong with it. We have had our car into the dealership seven times since March trying to correct the problem with fuel economy and the dealership says the onboard computer can not find anything wrong with car, therefore they don't know how to fix it. I wish you the best of luck in car shopping.
  • vinnygvinnyg Posts: 57
    Just want to bump this for all 2011-2012 Sonata Hybrid owners who have not had the latest TSB 13-FL-004 performed. It enhances drivability and stops the cold start jerkiness and hesitation.
    You have to actually complain about those symptoms to the dealer to have this installed, as it is not a recall, but a TSB.
  • vinnygvinnyg Posts: 57

    Another bump for all 2011-2012 Sonata Hybrid owners who have not had the latest TSB 13-FL-004 performed. It enhances drivability and stops the cold start jerkiness and hesitation. You have to actually complain about those symptoms to the dealer to have this installed, as it is not a recall, but a TSB.

  • mpgliempglie Posts: 3

    I have a 2012 sonata hybrid, which I put on 14,000 miles since purchase. This car is being driven approx. 80% local & 20% highway and averaging 26.2 mpg thus far. I've tried driving on cruise control, as some owners suggested, however I've yet to break 29 mpg on local streets regardless of driving style. My wife has a Toyota Prius and even with her lead foot, she is averaging 46.2mpg!

    I would've not purchased this vehicle knowing the advertised mpg is nowhere near the actual performance. This type of advertisement should be illegal. Surprised there is no class action on this issue!

  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345

    Apparently the 2013s are much better, but that is of little benefit for earlier purchasers. They really should offer you guys a gas card like they did when their EPA numbers weren't even close last year on various models.

    Being the guinea pig is never fun, especially when you paid a lot for the position.

    If it helps, at least your ride is probably a much more quiet and serene place to be than your wife's.

  • sanny_tossanny_tos Posts: 1
    edited January 10

    2013 Hybrid Limited, California driven, first two weeks behind the wheel. 60% city, 40% highway, 30 mpg. Still adjusting how to drive more efficiently.

  • 2013 Hyundai Limited driven in coastal South Carolina. I have about 3,500 miles on with 2 months of ownership. About 50/50 city/highway. Averaging 40 mpg (calculated - don't rely on the computer... it's off by 10%). Gotten as high as 43 mpg on a tank. I get best mpg when I'm in Blue mode and don't speed. I do the speed limit or slightly below, which seems to make a big difference, too. Almost bought a Prius, but happy I got a much more comfortable car for about the same cash with only a small mpg penalty.

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    @osullivan said: 2013 Hyundai Limited driven in coastal South Carolina. I have about 3,500 miles on with 2 months of ownership. About 50/50 city/highway. Averaging 40 mpg (calculated - don't rely on the computer... it's off by 10%). Gotten as high as 43 mpg on a tank. I get best mpg when I'm in Blue mode and don't speed. I do the speed limit or slightly below, which seems to make a big difference, too. Almost bought a Prius, but happy I got a much more comfortable car for about the same cash with only a small mpg penalty.

    I always rely on calculating my mileage and use it as a way to monitor the "health" of my cars by watching for a sudden change in mileage that can't be explained away by short fill up or unusual driving conditions and the like.

    I do recall "ruining"someone's gas mileage once here in the forums. They were debating whether to buy a new car and said they were getting something like 35 mpg from their old car. But the EPA numbers for their old car were more like 25 highway at best. So we got into how they were driving, how they were figuring mileage, etc. Turns out that the very first time they filled up their car, they put 10 gallons in the tank, and they assumed that 10 gallons was a fill up. They would divide their miles driven since last fill up by 10, never paying attention to how much gas they actually were putting in. And since it was actually more like a 15 gallon tank,their calculation was WAY off. Somehow that translated into ME ruining the mileage they were getting. :s

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  • mpgliempglie Posts: 3

    Had the 13 fl 04 software updated on the main comp couple weeks ago. Immediate improvement in mpg and got rid of the cold start sluggishness. It seems the car runs more on the elec motor on local driving. Thanks for the advice Vinny!

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    @mpglie said: Had the 13 fl 04 software updated on the main comp couple weeks ago. Immediate improvement in mpg and got rid of the cold start sluggishness. It seems the car runs more on the elec motor on local driving. Thanks for the advice Vinny!

    What kind of bump did you get in MPG? It's ALWAYS great to see shared info on the forum helping out!

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  • mpgliempglie Posts: 3

    On straightaway, it hit 40mpg and on slight hilly roads, it is getting approx 28mpg. This car never came close to 40mpg in any road condition before the download! Average mpg bump is approx +3mpg overall.

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    @mpglie said: On straightaway, it hit 40mpg and on slight hilly roads, it is getting approx 28mpg. This car never came close to 40mpg in any road condition before the download! Average mpg bump is approx +3mpg overall.

    What mileage are you getting over a tank of gas? Those instantaneous numbers are interesting, but (for me, anyway) the average mileage is a more useful number.

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  • I don't think the Sonata Hybrid and the Prius are really comparable, because there is a significant weight difference. The Camry is more of a comparable.

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    @sony2000 said: I don't think the Sonata Hybrid and the Prius are really comparable, because there is a significant weight difference. The Camry is more of a comparable.

    Well, the weight difference is one of the points of comparison where they differ ;)

    Welcome to the forums! Always nice to see the new faces. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. That's why the moderators are here.

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  • berniel77berniel77 Posts: 3

    @crkyolfrt said: Apparently the 2013s are much better, but that is of little benefit for earlier purchasers. They really should offer you guys a gas card like they did when their EPA numbers weren't even close last year on various models.

    Being the guinea pig is never fun, especially when you paid a lot for the position.

    If it helps, at least your ride is probably a much more quiet and serene place to be than your wife's.

    We purchased our 2013 HSH used in April of this year. It was a fleet vehicle and had about 18,000 miles on it when we drove and bought it. In the first few weeks it was used primary for local driving and we got 31-32 MPG. We live in southwest Connecticut.

    Then last week (May 12-18), we took it on vacation to Shenandoah area of Virginia, Myrtle Beach, SC, and Chincoteague, VA before returning home to CT. We drove almost 1700 miles on this trip. The estimated MPGs reset upon each fill-up but we kept written records of odometer and trip mileage on each fill-up. Except for the first fill-up which included some of our local miles before this trip, the others calculated from 38.8 to 42.2 MPGs. The Estimated mileage on the screen remained mostly in the 40s going as high as 49.9 at one point. This included some local driving at several points during the trip. On the Interstates, we did drive much of it at 65-72 MPH so could have done better gas mileage if we kept the speed down.

    We love this car. We had been looking at the Toyata Prius v (small wagon) but when searching for a red hybrid on carmax.com, this one turned up so that is where we bought it. We got a better trade-in for our 2004 Saturn Ion at Carmax than some other quotes.

    I have a couple of minor questions about the car. We don't find a compass, neither on radio or mirror. Is it hiding, not available on a Basic, or because it was a fleet vehicle? Similarly why no accessory jacks for the rear passengers? Is there any fine tuning that should be performed, like the one mentioned for the 2011/2012?

    Bernie in CT

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