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Mazda CX-5

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  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I guess I would have to ask where you have been too. ;) He often comments in his posts that he is connected with Mazda. I believe in Conneticut or at least in the New England area. I don't always agree with him and sometimes he gets a little bit too "company line" but it's clear where he is coming from.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,958
    edited February 2012
    Ah, I remember him as a good guy from way back. But my memory goes way back too, and fails me now and then. :shades:

    My mom had an old Protege for over a decade and would still have it if she hadn't of hung up her car keys. Always ran great. But it seems like problem posts have gone up with Mazda since they mostly split up with Ford, expecially with CX-9s and CX-7s. I'd take a Miata in a NY minute but the CX line gives me a bit of pause.

    Maybe I just skim too many problems posts?
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    As a general rule people who bother to talk about a product have something negative to say. People who are satisfied don't feel quite as motivated.

    That being said, my last Mazda3 grenaded at 74k miles (threw a rod) and while here and there Mazdas have been good, they're far from the bulletproof reputation of Honda and Subaru. Despite my problem I miss how that car drove.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I'm not :shades:
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2012
    That being said, my last Mazda3 grenaded at 74k miles (threw a rod) and while here and there Mazdas have been good, they're far from the bulletproof reputation of Honda and Subaru

    Maybe true in regards to Honda's reputation, but definitely not Subaru. I have owned 2 and my family has owned a total of 12. All models from the early 1990's to the 2004 Forester and 2002 Impreza (most recently owned with issues) had head gaskets go and the fuel lines rotted out with around 50K on them. Very expensive to replace.

    Subaru's are very good, but not "bullet-proof". In fact, no car is. The recent Honda's are not as good as the older ones, IMO. Somes Mazda's are better than others too. The MX-5 and Protege were excellent vehicles with very few, if any, problems while the 626 and MPV were far from perfect. Newer Mazda's rate out very well, and with CR, Mazda is the #2 non-luxury brand in reliability. Again, this does not mean they are "bullet-proof", but they are pretty damn good.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2012
    I believe in Conneticut or at least in the New England area. I don't always agree with him and sometimes he gets a little bit too "company line" but it's clear where he is coming from.

    Yes, CT is where I live. If you must know, I'm in management at a dealership.

    I take the "company line" as you put it because I believe in the product. I'm pretty passionate about the brand, which is pretty obvious. Mazda is not for everyone, and they are not a perfect company and I have openly disagreed with some of their methods, like advertising the CX-5 at "35mpg" when the majority of CX-5s can't get that. However, I respect their approach to building cars and who they build them for.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Honda still retains the reputation, as does Subaru (even if they should be falling out of it pretty soon). Mazda never quite made it to that level, though the Protege in particular was an amazingly reliable car, the Mazda3 was not, it had issues with engines, A/C, and some minor electronics issues. For some, the driving experience ended up being more important than these issues, and right up to the thrown rod I would have agreed completely. That thrown rod took away my fun driving experience though, and sentenced me to an Elantra Touring. :shades:

    Despite THOSE issues, if I can get a Mazda3 Skyactiv with auto climate control, I'll jump at it. If they get the slushbox on the CX-5 to 35 MPG highway I'll jump at THAT (don't need AWD but I'd like the ground clearance). If not though, I have to look elsewhere.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I meant no disrespect and have always found you to be very upfront in the fact that you work for Mazda. My remark about the the "company line" was also meant just how you put it, that you are very passionate about your product which is great as long as the blinders can be removed at times. ;)

    Our 2007 Mazda6 is going on 70k and has been absolutely bulletproof. The only warranty adjustment was a tailpipe hanger that was fixed at the first oil change and since then there has been absolutely no repairs....not one! I'll be looking at the CX-5 to possibly replace our SUV soon.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I like the looks of the CX-7 and CX-9 but the the 9 is too big for my needs and the CX-7 has poor drivetrains IMO and I don't like the interior on the 7 either. The CX-5 is almost totally different then the CX-7 and in a good way. If it has enough pep(which I'm afraid it might not) it could be a player for me.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,958
    Let's hope so - they need a good seller. Most of their cars are made in Japan and the yen is probably killing them.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Let's hope so - they need a good seller. Most of their cars are made in Japan and the yen is probably killing them.

    The Yen hurts pretty bad right now. However, Mazda claims they saw this coming and revamped their production process, amongst other things to illeviate the drawbacks of the Yen. For example, all SKYACTIV engines, of all displacements and fuel types, are build on the same line. I believe they all use the same engine block, and a motor can be made a diesel or gas on the fly.

    Mazda's CEO said candidly that the success of their compnay depends on this car and SKYACTIV technology.

    I think the product is there, they just need to market it better.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    No disrespect taken :shades:

    I think it's safe to say there is general excitement in regards to the CX-5. I hope it does well. Mazda really needs a shot in the arm with a new product and this could be the start of something really special for them.

    Lets just carry on with our discussion. Afterall, that is what we are here to do!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,958
    they just need to market it better

    Oh oh, that's what they said about Isuzu, Mitsu and Suzuki. :confuse:
  • edo65edo65 Posts: 2
    It is very disappointing that blind spot warning system is not available on 6 speed M/T
    :cry:
  • I like this vehicle because it gets class leading fuel economy and still is competitive in terms of acceleration even though its motor has fewer hp/torque than competing small CUVs.

    It also has class leading rear seat room, and among the nicest interiors in the segment, and it has a ton of standard equipment for a MSRP of about 20k.

    The Mazdas we've owned have been bulletproof.

    We have a 2009 Mazda 6 with 58,000 miles with nothing but oil/filter and coolant/brake fluid/transmission regular interval changes - not one problem.

    I have a 2005 Mazda RX-8 (that is allegedly unreliable) that has 109,000 miles, and all I've done is regular maintenance (I have kept the oil topped off at all times). The car has consumed 3 sets of tires, 2 sets of brakes and drives like new. Even the clutch and stick are snickety snick and there are zero rattles in the interior. Even the original HID headlights are still going strong!

    That said, with the CX-5, because of some pretty nifty and new motor tech that's part (just a part) of the skyactiv system, and because this motor is a high compression unit, for those worried about reliability, it may be wise to wait a couple of years, because this is not an evolved Mazda motor, but an entirely new one.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,958
    Was this tech all developed in house or was some developed with Ford? Per Wikipedia, Mazda still makes some engines in the US at two or three Ford facilities.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I guess if everyone took your advice and waited a couple of years Mazda would go broke and that would solve that problem. ;)

    Seriously, I agree to some degree but I think automakers put drivetrains through a lot of testing before bringing something to market these days. There can be just too much instant negative PR that comes with the internet, news, etc. Since this new tech is so crucial to Mazda's future I assume they tested pretty thoroughly but because it is so crucial did they hurry it???

    If I were to buy one these I might consider looking at getting an extended drivetrain warranty. I don't often recommend getting any kind of added warranty but this tech is pretty new and Mazda really has to have a winner with it. So I'd probably consider it in this case.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2012
    Was this tech all developed in house or was some developed with Ford? Per Wikipedia, Mazda still makes some engines in the US at two or three Ford facilities.

    All SKYACTIV technology was developed and built in-house by Mazda. In fact, Mazda has been sitting on the technology for a while while it was refined and perfected. Ford has known about it, but did not want them using it while they were still partners. Development of SKYACTIV started in late 2007 and early 2008. The Ford-Mazda split did not come until October 2008.

    The Ford-Mazda relationship had its good and its bad. The good for Mazda was cash flow, the bad was Ford stuck their nose in every part of their business, something Mazda did not like, which was part of the reason for the split, among other things, including Fords own interests. They were going in different directions, so it was best for both. I believe both are better now then they were back in 2008.

    No Mazda engines are built in the US. There are a few, a small few, that are built in Mexico that are used in the Mazda6, but the majority of the Mazda6 engines come from Japan as does every other Mazda engine.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Since this new tech is so crucial to Mazda's future I assume they tested pretty thoroughly but because it is so crucial did they hurry it???

    From what I have been told, it was not hurried to market. Development started almost 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure the technology has been put through the paces, but sometimes things pop up that were not visible during testing.

    I've always been a fan of extended protection plans with everything I buy. I like protecting my investment.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    "As Mazda prepares its new CX-5 compact crossover for an April debut,"

    Just read this over on cars.com. I thought it was a lot sooner. I suspect a mistake or a typo here. Can you shed some light????
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