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Mazda CX-5



  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,047
    I believe both are better now then they were back in 2008.

    Ford sure is. Not sure about Mazda, but it has a tough standard to live up to after my mom's near perfect Protege. Mazda doesn't seem to be handling the CX-7 and CX-9 complaints too well, just going by the unhappy camper posts in those boards.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,898
    It appears the Feb. time frame is correct. corrected their article.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Mazda doesn't seem to be handling the CX-7 and CX-9 complaints too well, just going by the unhappy camper posts in those boards.

    I understand with the CX-7's, but I have not heard that much negative chatter about the CX-9.

    Mazda has never had the best customer service when it comes to problems out of or in warranty. It is something they claim to be working on.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,047
    Yeah, you're right. The problems are mostly with the CX-7. Good to hear they are at least giving lip service to improving customer relations.
  • It's a nice package...

    One thing my son noticed, who is 6'3":

    "Mom will never go for this.... the sill is too wide and it's hard to step into.. "

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  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,898
    Which car show did you go to that the CX-5 was open to the public? I just went to Chicago show just got over yesterday and they were all locked up.
  • Cincinnati

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  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,047
    edited February 2012
    "Mazda doesn't spend a lot of money advertising its cars. If you drive a Mazda 3, it's almost certainly not because you saw a commercial and got all interested, and more likely because you heard about it through positive word of mouth. Nothing wrong with that unless you want to sell a ton of cars.

    Now Mazda is about to launch the CX-5. Its driving dynamics are stellar, but this all-new crossover is not on any non-car guy's radar. Mazda needs to change that quickly. And the company is trying something new."

    Mazda Recruits Dr. Seuss to Advertise 2013 CX-5 (Straightline)
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    I don't see where this is a problem. Mazda has always been the domain of "car guys" and their friends and family. Joe CR-V owner is more than likely not going to get why he should dump his magic H-mobile for some small manufacturer from Japan (and think about that concept for a minute). After all, CR-Vs get the best fuel economy and have the best ride comfort and room and ergonomics and everything else, so says that "H" on the front of the car, right?

    If they make the wrong move they could end up with a lot of jilted owners, which is a really bad thing marketing-wise. And marketing a sporty compact SUV to people used to things like RAV4s and Equinoxes and CR-Vs might not see the advantage to razor sharp handling...though they might be annoyed at how much stiffer the suspension is.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2012
    We received our first two CX-5's this evening. I have not driven one yet but my first impression is this car is bigger than I thought. The interior build quality is phenomenal and much more attractive in person. I really like it.

    I will post back tomorrow after I drive one. So far, I'm impressed with what I see.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,898
    Yeah, please include the color combos on the ones you've got.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I have a Stormy Blue with Sand leather Grand Touring AWD model and a Touring AWD model in Liquid Silver with the tech package and moon/Bose package. Both colors are currently available on other Mazda's.
  • Dealer in Oklahoma City got two in today - Sky Blue and Black Mica. Thes two are already sold along with three other pre-orders just today. They look very nice in person - better than the pictures.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2012
    Hey everyone,

    I had the opportunity to drive the Cx-5 for a good amount of time today. I drove a CX-5 Grand Touring AWD.

    I am going to start with my observation to the question I think everyone has...."does this car have enough power?". The answer is yes. It is not a rocket by any means, but it is not sluggish either. I would say it feels quicker than the 2012 CR-V LX AWD I drove last week.

    One design characteristic I noticed is the overly firm accelerator pedal. I believe this is the reason why many reviewers have stated the car feels sluggish, unless you floor the pedal. The accelerator needs a good amount of pressure just to depress it, similar to a BMW. Actually, it's even tougher. Since a good amount of pressure is needed just to depress the pedal, it gives the driver the feeling that you are exerting a lot of energy just to get the car to move. Once you get used to the fact that you need to press hard, you adjust and realize the CX-5 actually scoots along fairly quickly and feels pretty agile without the engine screaming. I think it feels this way because the pedal is not conventional. It is actually mounted on the floor rather than hanging from under the dash. In any event, more power is always welcome.

    I set the cruise at 70 mph and did about 5 miles on the highway and it was virtually flat. The MPG readout was showing 32mpg. Again, this was an AWD model.

    The engine is very smooth, non raspy and very, very quite. The transmission does feel different than in the Mazda3. It is obvious there are some differences in the gearing. It really feels like a dual-clutch tranny but with low end power and smoothness. If there was someone who came from one of VW's DSG's, they would think this was a DSG, but more responsive.

    Wind noise and road noise were minimal. The seats are comfortable and supportive. What I found really interesting was the massive amount of head and leg room in both the front and rear with a moon roof! It's the weirdest thing. The overall height is virtually the same as the CR-V, but the seating position is lower. I could wear a hat and it would not hit the roof, even when equipped with a moon roof. You really don't feel like you are in a SUV or CUV. Leg room is outstanding for this class. I positioned the front seat as if I were driving, and I still had about 3 inches between my knees and the back of the front seat when sitting in the rear and I am 6'3".

    The handling, steering and braking all were very "Mazda like". Even though the car has electric steering power assist, you wouldn't know it. I don't know why no other manufacturer can figure this out.

    Overall, I find the car impressive. Out of the several people today to drive it, they were all impressed. They all mentioned it was bigger inside than it looked from the outside. The styling is captivating in person. The front end is so nice to look at, especially given the hideous front end designs Mazda has blessed us with over the last 3 years.

    It is obvious this is the new way Mazda will be building their cars. Build quality is top notch. Materials rival what VW uses, and in some cases better. The car just feels very high quality.

    I don't see how this car is not a success for Mazda. Exactly how many they can sell in a given year is to be determined, but Mazda would be very successful if they can push 80,000 - 100,000 a year. That may not sound like a lot considering top rivals sell upwards of 150,000 - 200,000, but Mazda is a small company. It does not take a lot to be profitable.

    I'm looking forward to other reviews here. I know I can be a little bias at times because I work for the company, but I tried to be as objective as possible.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,602
    How does the usable cargo room compare to say the CR-V? not just floor space, but height below the window line?

    That is often a big drawback in an SUV or CUV (especially an AWD). the load floor is very high, and I have obsession about not packing higher than the sight line to the rear window (or the height of the rear seats). In a minivan, that is not usually a problem!

    The CRV actually has a reasonably low load floor now.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,898
    First of all, thanks for the thorough write up. Little confused, you said the tranny feels different than in the 3. Isn't it the same transmission but possibly a little different gearing? Why do you suppose the gas pedal is that hard to push? Are they trying to make you sip gas? Why didn't they just use the same gas pedal setup as in other Mazdas?

    I just received an email from my local Mazda dealer that they have several in. I need to take our Mazda6 in for oil change and 75k service in a few weeks. Think I'll take advantage of my wait at the dealer with a test drive!

    With gas prices shooting up it looks like Mazda's timing with the best MPG of any CUV/SUV will help get this baby moving. I wish them good luck especially with all the financial stuff that's in the news.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Little confused, you said the tranny feels different than in the 3

    It felt like it shifted quicker than in the 3. Also, the gearing different, not obvious, but still noticeable. I have lots of driving experience in the 3 with the SKYACTIV-Drive, and it does not feel the same. This is not a bad thing, though.

    Why do you suppose the gas pedal is that hard to push? Are they trying to make you sip gas?

    I don't think is has anything to do with sipping gas, it is just a hard pedal to push. Let me try to be more seems as if the fuel/pedal position ratio is normal meaning the pedal position is in good relation to the amount and response you witness, but is it is just hard to press. As of right now, I have no idea why this is. I will have to do some investigating. You get used to it rather quickly, though.

    I just received an email from my local Mazda dealer that they have several in

    They most likely have 2 Mazda protocol was for every dealer, no matter how big or small, received 2 at the same time. I doubt they have several.

    Definitely go check it out. Its pretty nice. I like it.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I know what you mean in regards to the CR-V. Honda did a great job in managing their cargo space. The CX-5's is as deep (tail gate to rear seat), but I think the CR-V's goes deeper into the floor.

    The cargo space in the CX-5 is pretty good though. The rear seats are rather high so visibility should be adequate if you pile stuff up. Still, probably a bit better in the CR-V.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    After roughly 80 miles of test drives, the CX-5 Touring AWD we have is averaging 27.5 miles per gallon. Considereing test drives usually include a little "let's see what this car can do" type of driving and the EPA average is 28, I think the mileage to date is very good. I would not be surprised to see an average of 30 at some point.

    When driving at 70, the fuel computer was reading 32mpg. When driving at 60, the fuel computer was reading 37.5. Now, I have no idea how accurate this computer is, but if it is even remotely close, this car gets amazing fuel economy.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    This is the slushbox version? That's nearing Impreza territory, only with more power than an Impreza. What percentage city and highway? Interesting how drastic the drop is between 60 and 70...
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