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Mazda CX-5



  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    edited March 2012
    I believe the fiber lining in the wheel wells is to suppress road and tire noise.

    You could be partially right but I firmly believe it was a weight saving method as well. It seems that the pictures I've seen of the GT it appeared the wheels filled the wheelwells up more but it could just be an optical illusion as you said. I know on different vehicles they can go from 17 to 20 inch wheels and I'm sure the outside diameter of the overall tire/wheel package is greater with the larger wheels. I realize the sidewalls are narrower on the low aspect tires but on most cars when you get the larger wheels it certainly appears to fill the wheelwells up more. I'm certainly no expert on wheels though.

    I prefer the GT as I really like leather interiors but I could do with the 17" wheels just as well if the look is similar but to my knowledge the 19" comes standard on the GT. I usually only buy new tires for a vehicle once so a couple of hundred extra bucks for the 19" tires over 90k plus miles is not a problem.
  • ethan_in_waethan_in_wa Posts: 13
    edited March 2012
    I fail to see how adding more material is a weight savings measure. The fiber lining, which is only used in the back, is fastened to the inside of the wheel wells. The substrate behind this fiber lining is sheet metal. The sheet metal is also lined with a sound damping elastomer which is used in both the front and back. The idea is to attenuate road and tire noise so that its not transmitted to the cabin via the frame. This is a solid approach to noise abatement that demonstrates Mazda's commitment to quality in design.

    Regarding the wheel size, the overall diameter of the wheels on the Touring and Grand Touring models is nearly identical. The Touring has P225/65R17 wheels while the GT has P225/55R19 wheels. The first number is the tire width in millimeters. The second number is the aspect ratio, which is the height of the tire as a percentage of the width. The final number is the rim diameter in inches.

    To prove my earlier assertion, lets run the numbers. The overall diameter of the wheels on the Touring model is 17+2*.65*225/25.4 = 28.5 inches, whereas for the GT the overall wheel diameter is 19+2*.55*225/25.4 = 28.7 inches (note that mm are converted to inches using 1 inch = 25.4 mm and tire width is multiplied by two to get diameter). As you can see, the wheels on the GT are only 0.2 inches larger in diameter, which is almost indiscernible. So yes, the larger rims created the ILLUSION of a larger wheel, without actually increasing wheel size. :)
  • debbadoo2debbadoo2 Posts: 24
    Thoughts on the premium cloth seats in the Touring model? Do they appear to be good quality material? How about comfort level?
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    Thanks for the explanation. I poked around in the wheelwells for a couple of seconds and pushed on the fiber lining and felt a lot of give so I assumed they used the fiber matting in lieu of something more substantial. I did find this strange and the salesperson found it kind of strange too. Not that most salespeople know that much about new products when they have only been in the dealer for a couple of weeks. But if, as you say, the matting is simply an addon for sound dampening that is great. I'm not questioning Mazda's engineering expertise.

    I wonder if, on some vehicles when they use a larger tire often for sport models, they actually lower the vehicle on the suspension so the wheelwells are lower thus making the larger rims/tires seem much bigger?
  • I was concerned about the same thing. The fabric is actually quite nice, so far as cloth seats go. The side bolsters and seat back are solid in color while the seat and back sections are patterned. In terms of comfort, the seats are firm; the side bolsters more so.
  • I understand the reason for your confusion. The fiber panels in the rear wheel wells are offset from the sheet metal substrate so they appear to be unsupported from behind. By offsetting these panel there is less contact with the sheet metal behind them, thereby reducing the transmission of noise to the frame.

    The CX-5 does ride higher than most of the competition so the gap in the wheel wells is more obvious. Dropping the suspension would make the wheels look proportionately bigger.
  • mcperrmcperr Posts: 74
    Has anyone heard yet if the CX-5 can be flat towed? Debating between AWD versions of the CX-5 and the CR-V for towing behind a motorhome. The CR-V can be towed with all four wheels on the ground.
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    I took a look at the CX-5 the other day. The 2.0L engine is probably a deal-killer for me. Give me the MZR 2.5L and I'd be interested.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    13 horsepower? Really? and the 2.5L has one less gear (if you get the automatic..and it's a worse automatic) and about 100 more pounds near as I can tell. That makes it nearly a zero-sum game there, unless you're looking for the torque.

    You can have the MZR 2.5L. I think what most people are looking for is a SKYACTIV 2.5L. ;)
  • venkatgovenkatgo Posts: 1
    Hi new CX5 owners, Congrats!

    This seems to be a nice CUV and I am planning to buy. Could you please list the overall mpg you are getting with your calcs and not computer with city/hwy driving split approx?

    Is the fuel efficiency as advertised? I believe the Mazda 3 has the skyactiv engine as well and delivers good mpg and so I hope the CX5 does too.

    I see a lot of folks are interested in the MPG and so it would be useful to post here.

  • nelson1nelson1 Posts: 40
    Good report, Ethan. You answered lots of questions that I had. I am contemplating trading off my 2011 Hyundai Sonata Ltd., because of the loud road noise at highway speeds. Can't tolerate that any longer. Dealer and Hyundai tell me to buy new Michelin tires. Ha. Sure, buy new tires for a new car, right. Thinking about the CX5. Even though I have never owned a Mazda, I am thinking on it. I like the looks, wish it had a few more horses.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,148
    I also suggest new tires.

    Its a heck of a lot cheaper than a new car.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • gusman3gusman3 Posts: 1
    I am in the process of finalizing my purchase of a CX5 Touring model. But I have question regarding the headlights. The brochure and sticker states it is halogen, but it looks like Xenon. Even on vehicles the optional Tech package which includes the Xenon light and on basic Touring/Sports models without them, the head light looks same as Xenon. Can the owners of the CX5 confirm if the head light is Xenon or not. Also, please list the mileage obtained after fill ups. Thanks.
  • Only the Touring and Grand Touring models with the tech package offer the xenon headlights. However, even the standard halogen projectors are pretty good on the CX-5. I test drove a touring without the tech package but bought one with it; the difference at night is noticeable but not significantly so. The big advantage in my opinion is the adaptive lights. I have these on my IS350 and they do improve visibility while cornering.

    I will be sure to post my mileage on my next fill up. So far I've barely burned through a quarter of a tank!
  • stan6201stan6201 Posts: 25
    I bought a CX-5 Touring and for me the cloth seats are great. The material is nice and with the adjustable lumbar support (which is hard to find with cloth) I am a happy camper. I could not see the value in upgrading to the Grand Touring model.
  • stan6201stan6201 Posts: 25
    I just purchased a Touring model with the Bose/moonroof package. I love the vehicle but am very disappointed with the Bose sound. Unless you are listening to a CD it sounds like everything is coming out of the center speaker. Does anyone know of a way of replicating the CD sound while listening to other sources (Ipod, mp3 player, radio, HD radio, etc.)?
  • Agreed. Overall the CX-5 offers great value with an impressive set of features for a very competitive price, but sadly the Bose system is sub par in my opinion. I've noticed this same thing; the center channel seems to be dominant, which is a bad thing when listening to stereo audio. The Mark Levinson system in my other car blows this one away with a much richer, cleaner sound - then again I'm not a big fan of Bose. I expect a little more from a thousand dollar optional audio upgrade.
  • The Bose isn’t a $1k audio upgrade by itself – it’s part of an option package includes a moonroof, which is typically a~ $800-1k stand-alone option on most any car. The Bose is obviously worth far less than that. Too bad Mazda made these two unrelated options part of the same package. I’d rather have the moonroof as a single option, and add aftermarket stereo of my own choice.
  • 62vette62vette Posts: 17
    I am looking at replacing a Chevy Silverado with a CX-5. I have not used my truck bed in forever and can use some inside cargo room for work. I am thinking of a lease on this car, anybody have any experience with a lease so far? Any ideas on payments, residuals, etc would be appreciated.
  • glossgloss Posts: 18
    You can disable Centerpoint in the audio options. Worth a shot.
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