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2013 Acura RDX



  • nobonobo Posts: 305
    Someone needs to come up with a switch or something to make the Nav system "think" that the vehicle is in Park. I'm thinking some electronics "whiz" could make this happen.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    I was just being humorous. I actually thought the voice dialing issue was specific to the tech package also, but it sounds like you get that with the base car also?

    I have never had a car with built in bluetooth, so I would not have any benchmark to compare it to. or obviously, no obvious need for it.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    I always wondered why they just don't integrate it into the passenger airbag sensor? If that says there is an adult (or fat kid!) in the passenger seat, then let the navi update on the fly.

    At least my Garmin does not care what I am doing. Change it any time!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • @nobo

    I agree that the locking out the Navigation system when the car is moving is an annoyance, but as a safety matter I can at least understand the logic, even if I may not agree with it. I know there are other comments on this blog that get into that issue.

    In the case of the very poor voice dialing in the 2013 RDX, the problem is just the opposite. Acura is taking something that was simple and safe and making it complicated and potentially dangerous. I would love to hear from some programmers or software engineers, but it strikes me that this is just lazy coding by Acura or its supplier. Even if it's technically "necessary," sacrificing straightforward voice dialing for the added features is just stupid. What driver would give up straightforward voice dialing for being able to fiddle with the a/c or radio by voice?
  • Well, I guess I'm 'happy' that it's not just my lack of familiarity with the Tech package. :blush: Have had the vehicle just a few days(coming from XC60 before Sensus) and sure find it easier(so far) to skip the voice commands. I'm sure I'll warm up to the Tech system...DW absolutely loves the audio package and, for me, Basia never sounded better ;) . But, I've got a ways to go before I can wrangle the voice command thingy. I'm trying to 'forget' the Volvo nav set-up so I can work with the new package. I will say some of the nav features are pretty slick.
  • I am a brand new owner (a few days) of a 2013 RDX AWD with Tech. I have no problems controlling the navigation while I'm driving. I changed the destination to this and that (using both voice command and pushing buttons) while I'm driving. I also was able to make phone calls via my connected Iphone while driving.

    Aren't my findings contradicting all the posts here?? Am I missing something? Are these posts talking about something else? Did Acura already tweak things??
  • @clint1970, #196

    Welcome to the Edmunds forums. I can't speak to using Nav while moving, but my principal issue is with poor/cumbersome/dangerous voice dialing through the 2013 RDX. Can you tell us more clearly how you're using your phone system? What buttons are you using, and in what sequence?

    I have an iPhone as well. It's possible on an iPhone to work around the Acura system and use the latter only as a speakerphone, but that kinda defeats the purpose, no?
  • I am using a "Droid" phone. See Post #184 by "roadrunner" for sequence of events. One can speed up the process by pressing the talk button before each system prompt. This forces the "beep" avoiding the systems prompts, but does not reduce the number of steps. I have tried numerous methods to reduce the process which was 2 steps in my 2009 RDX Tech. My wife's 2012 MDX also uses the 2 step method. What also make the 2013 RDX worse is only 20 numbers can be transferred from the phone book to the voice tag phonebook. The previous RDX & MDX allow the transfer of 50 numbers.
  • roadrunner56roadrunner56 Posts: 9
    edited August 2012
    @ttwilliam, #198

    Thanks for your response. No offense to you, but I don't know if your answer makes me want to laugh or cry. :) If I understand it, your method adds three ADDITIONAL button pushes in order to at least shorten the painfully SLOW time of the standard method Acura recommends. Good idea on the slowness issue, but I'm afraid this sounds at least as distracting -- and therefore dangerous -- as the standard method, if not more. AFAIK, before pressing the talk button as you suggest, the driver has to wait a second or two to make sure the prior command was heard and processed by the system. Quite a bit of aural choreography, no? And personally, I'd have to take piano lessons first!

    Again, I want to emphasize that I don't mean to be critical of you. This is a ridiculous situation Acura has created, and you're just sharing the best workaround you've found. So thanks for that. It must drive you CRAZY that your wife's 2009 RDX is so much simpler to use for voice dialing!
  • tiaunntiaunn Posts: 2
    I just bout one and love it. I traded in my 2004 RSX with 105K miles on it, loved it but i got tired of squeezing the kids in the back, so it was time for an upgrade. And the 2013 RDX was a perfect choice. I did my homework and it beats just about everything in its price class.
  • I do have the 2013 RDX, but not the tech package. I don't have to go through all these steps to make a phone call. It's not perfect by any stretch, but I just say "call home" -- not "dial by voice" or whatever.
  • That is the way it should 2009 RDX Tech was simple to use as is our 2012 MDX Tech. ACURA will lose sales if they don't correct the problem. And the navigation is just as bad. Recently had a destination problem and my wife could not re-program the navigation system while we were in motion & it was too distracting & time consuming to do it by voice recognition. The system is a joke and hopefully ACURA will come up with a software fix for those unfortunate enough to have purchased this turkey.
  • I have the 2013 RDX, no Tech pkg, 6k to date. I love the car and the hands free dialing, I just say call home, work , wife, girlfriend etc. No problems even with my Queens accent. As far as NAV, my $200 TomTom works equally well.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    I (well, my wife gets it) just picked up a base model last night. The salesguy did sync her iphone for us, and we practiced receiving a call. But, have not tried to really use it yet to make a call, so will have to play with that this weekend.

    and our Garmin works just fine too.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Well, we are still having the same issues with voice dialing on the 2013 RDX with Tech package. :( :( There doesn't seem to be any fix except to get an RDX without Tech. That is a sad state of affairs. And a big warning to anyone considering the Tech package. Don't do it -- unless you love gadgets more than convenience, and unless you don't mind being distracted for a while every time you make a call.

    Save your money and your sanity and get a Garmin.
  • I've had the AWD with Tech package for about 2 weeks now. I have no problems with the voice dialing nor the navigation. It might not behave exactly how one wants or is "used to", but I don't think it's that big a deal. In general, making/receiving calls and controlling the navigation is decent enough, although maybe not perfect. I highly recommend the Tech package. BTW, we love all other aspects of the RDX so far as well. Lack of AC vents in the rear seat is our biggest complaint.
  • I'll agree about the voice activated system...I'm still learning it, but it does what I want so far. I'm a button-pusher anyway...just an old dog, I reckon. Our Scottie-girl will miss the rear seat ventilation, also. Haven't taken any long trips with her yet.

    I will miss the 12v outlet in the cargo area...all the Volvos had that; but my biggest gripe so far is the horrible console compartment cover. While it's large enough and almost tall enough to be an arm rest, it opens about 60% and blocks my right arm from being able to reach in comfortably. The lid should be able to open to a full horizontal position, fully out of the way...and it could double as a tray or extra cup holders IF they wanted to copy one of the Volvo designs from a few years back.
  • @clint1970, post #207.

    Of course, everyone is entitled to his own opinion about the Tech package on the 2013 RDX, but two aspects of the current voice dialing seem to me to take this issue beyond the realm of just opinion. First, the greater number of steps in making voice-dialed calls means greater driver distraction and that's just a decrease in safety that can't be ignored. Not to mention that the greater number of steps also introduces more points of failure in the process, necessitating yet more steps and more distraction if any of the steps fails. Second, it's important to keep in mind that the new, more complicated voice-dialing on the 2013 RDX Tech package is a retrograde step. Acura has made voice dialing easier in the past, both on Tech packages and in the current 2013 RDX models without Tech. Now, we're going backwards! On a basic and important function in 2012, on $40,000 luxury car, where the Tech package alone costs about $4,000, going backwards is just unacceptable.

    Again, you're entitled to your opinion, of course, and you may think the decrease is safety due to distraction is acceptable and that a backward step in voice dialing is not a big deal, but I hope you'll agree that these issues go far beyond the "gee, I wish the RDX came with white leather" kind of issue.
  • I agree with you 100%. Add to that, the voice tag phonebook maxes out at 20 numbers compared to the previous 50 numbers. I have used factory OEM, after market hands free systems and more recently Bluetooth since the early 1990s. I don't recall any being as ridiculous and difficult to use as that in the 2013 RDX Tech. Except for some nit picking items, I would give the vehicle a 10 out of 10 rating. With the new Tech Bluetooth system I can only rate it as a 5. In this day in age communications for business is by far more important than changing radio stations and heater settings via voice recognition, and in that aspect the 2013 RDX Tech fails miserably.
  • @ttwilliam, post #210

    LOL! It's true after all, misery loves company!

    I have been really shocked at the muted response the bad voice dialing on the 2013 RDX with Tech has been getting. By now, I would have thought there would be an uprising of dissatisfied owners. Maybe this will come later as the new Tech package gets rolled out across Acura's 2013 product line. Let's buy some popcorn and watch the fireworks!
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