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2013 Hyundai Elantra GT

bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
This car is coming soon, and supposedly Hyundai has made sporty steering and suspension this time. :) I had just about decided on a Mazda3 SkyActiv hatch, but first I think I'll head to the NY Auto Show in a couple of weeks to check the GT out up close. Release is sometime this summer (no date yet). Any thoughts about this vehicle?
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  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    I don't know much about it but it makes me want to wait before getting a 2012 Elantra in about 3 weeks. I also am interested in the mazda3 skyactiv and a couple other cars. I guess I am really undecided. I don't really like hatchbacks so it may not be for me.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    I won't buy anything that isn't a hatchback myself. I bought a 2004 Mazda3 hatch, and have since sworn off trunks as too annoying. My current ride is an annoyingly anonymous Elantra Touring, and it doesn't really live up to "sporty" handling. The suspension is on the stiff side, but it doesn't quite handle well enough to make up for it. And the steering, while weighted OK, is completely disconnected from the road. Now, i hear the new Elantra is supposed to be an improvement, but I haven't driven one yet. Mostly because I refuse to buy something with a trunk on it. :shades:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    I hope Hyundai has the GT for you to see at the New York Auto Show. They didn't have one at the Greater Twin Cities Auto Show, which surprised me since it already debuted in Chicago weeks earlier.

    I've owned a 2004 GT hatch for 8 years and it's been a great car. My son drives it to/from college now. I have the 2013 GT on my shopping list for my next car, which will probably be a hatch (unless I'm smitten by the new Dart).

    I am hoping there's a low-end GT available without all the doo-dads, just a nice dollop of useful equipment such as 16" alloys, Bluetooth, cruise, maybe audio controls on the wheel. Leather covered wheel and shifter would be nice also, since it's a GT and the old GTs had that standard. Also I hope that the sport-tuned suspension isn't too hard.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    I want everything. Except that panoramic greenhouse thing, i could do without that. But if the thing is bowing this summer, the thought that they'd skip NY...wow, that would be truly evil. Maybe I can find out ahead of time though...
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    I don't see xm radio listed. I am assuming it doesnt have it.
    The hatchback is a deal breaker for me. I like my things hidden in the trunk.
    It's a nice looking car however.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Autonet 172-Watt AM/FM/XM® Satellite Radio/CD/MP3 audio system with six speakers (two front-door-mounted speakers, two tweeters and two rear speakers) STD
    180-Watt (45 X 4 channels) 7” Navigation system with High Resolution Touchscreen with rearview camera, AM/FM/SiriusXM Satellite Radio/CD/MP3 Audio System1 OPT

    It's on both stereo options. Nice to see a manufacturer make it available globally rather than forcing you into an upgraded stereo. Or worse, forcing you to buy navigation like Subaru...and they force you to buy a sunroof just to get the navigation system, so to get XM you have to buy a sunroof so you can buy the navigation system so you can get XM. :sick:
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    If you don't like the hatchback, maybe the Coupe would interest you...

    http://hyundainews.com/us/en-us/2013/Elantra-Coupe/Highlights.aspx
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Plus there's always the sedan, right?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    There's a cargo cover so your stuff in back is always hidden (unless you choose to remove the cargo cover)--but there's more cargo capacity in back than with the sedan or coupe.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    ok great xm radio. I guess I missed reading that.

    So is there a sedan in the Elantra GT? Or is it a hatchback only.

    I guess I need to wait till it comes out and test drive it, or just get the 2012 Elantra GLS like my gut feeling is telling me.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    It's hatchback-only. That's the whole point of it. The Elantra is the regular sedan. The Elantra Coupe is the 2-door with a trunk. The Elantra GT is a 5 door thing-that-isn't-a-hatch-because-Americans-don't-buy-hatches.

    If you're one of these people opposed to non-trunks, I suggest checking out the Elantra sedan and Coupe. The Coupe should have slightly sportier suspension than the sedan. The sedan is probably more geared towards comfort.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    The SE coupe is supposed to get a "sport-tuned suspension" and 17" wheels, ala the GT. The base GS coupe looks like it will have the same suspension as the sedan.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    edited March 2012
    5 door meaning the rear door opens to one side instead of lifting up like a hatch? Either way there isnt' an actual trunk, which is what I want so the sedan is what I need to get. I just wish I would see more positives from people on here about the Elantra. Everyone I guess got if for the great mileage it was suppose to have and apparantly it doesnt have what it claims to. I wish people would list the other things they do like about it. The gas mileage is important, but it's not #1 for me. I want something stylish, a good warranty, xm, comfortable for long trips and fun to drive.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Apparently the mileage reports are very VERY variable with the Elantra's 1.8L engine, and that's giving me pause too:the Mazda3's high MPGs seem to be a bit more repeatable but in that case I'm worried about the durability of an engine running at 12:1 compression. Whatever iissues I have with my Elantra Touring (and there are many) it's been bulletproof when it comes to reliability.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    I am going to test drive the mazda 3 skyactiv in a couple weeks before I make a decision about the elantra. Also, reading about the complaints in the steering, not precise etc.
    So for the most part you like the Elantra touring then. How long have you had it
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    3 years, and I don't like it. I said it was bulletproof. But the steering is vague and disconnected, the suspension is too stiff, the engine is underpowered, and the 4 speed automatic transmission sucks.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    5 door meaning the rear door opens to one side instead of lifting up like a hatch?

    "5-door" is a term commonly used to describe a car with 4 doors plus a liftgate/hatch... in the back.

    I just wish I would see more positives from people on here about the Elantra.

    Lessee... It was the North American Car of the Year. It was a finalist for Motor Trend's Car of the Year. It's selling in record numbers, such that Hyundai dealers don't have to slap big discounts on it anymore as they did with previous generations. It has (arguably) class-leading exterior and interior styling. It has class-leading or near class-leading interior room, mid-sized by EPA standards. It has lots of feature content for the money. It has smooth 6-speed transmissions. Smooth ride, nice braking (with 4 wheel discs standard). Roomy trunk. Industry-leading warranty. Excellent EPA fuel economy ratings for its class... and yes, "YMMV".

    So it seems to have everything on your list except maybe "fun to drive". And you are the best judge of whether it's fun enough to drive. You might find cars like the Mazda3, Golf, or Focus more fun to drive in this class. But each has its tradeoffs.
  • tsqrtsqr Posts: 1
    Where is the 2013 Elantra GT for USA being manufactured?
    It needs the Velositer 1.6 Turbo to be a great car! I would buy one today
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    One of the reasons I kept looking at the Elantra is because it was "car of the year" and also because a good friend bought one and has had it almost a year and doesn't have one complaint. I wasn't hesitant at all to buy one till I got on this site and started reading everyone's complaints. In two weeks I will being test driving the elantra again, mazda 3 skyactiv, honda civic. I will come home with a car that weekend. I have taken the corolla off my list and never really considered the focus, because I don't like how it looks. Hopefully the elantra will be "fun to drive". Not as fun as my mustang probably.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    Pick any car and I'll provide multiple URLs to discussions on how bad it is. ;)

    No car is perfect. Your mission is to find the car that meets your needs best, within your budget. And I bet no matter what car you end up buying, you'll find something about it you don't like, sooner or later.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 574
    The biggest knock on the Elantra is poor fuel economy. Many owners expect better mileage than they are achieving and have gotten upset.

    Overall it's a good car and worth a test drive.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    I think the "poor fuel economy" knock on the Elantra is way overblown. There are many people, myself included, who get very good fuel economy with the Elantra. There are some who don't. You can look at discussions on competitors like the Mazda3, Focus, and Impreza and see the same kind of thing: "I'm not getting the fuel economy I expected!"

    IMO the biggest knock on the Elantra isn't the unmet expectations on fuel economy for some owners, but the handling. Not terrible, but not as crisp as, for example, the Mazda3, Focus, or Golf. But the GT is going to have adjustable steering feel and sport-tuned suspension, so it should be more of a driver's car than the sedan.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    The Mazda3 and Hyundai Elantra GT are going to be cross-shopped a LOT I figure: their target markets are the same, similar HP, similar MPGs, similar designs, and even their power to weight ratios are extremely close (something like a 0.3 lb per HP difference). But Hyundai does seem to have stuffed more stuff into their model for each dollar, including auto climate control (which can't be had with a Mazda3 SkyActiv) and telmatics (which Mazda doesn't have the ability to offer). Of course, there's that sweet Mazda transmission, steering, and suspension combo...
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    And don't forget the Xm radio which is standard in the elantra. I agree I think that Hyundai does have many more features then the other comparable brands. I need to do a longer test drive on the Elantra. I didn't notice anything wrong with the steering.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    I don't think the Elantra's steering will be an issue for most drivers. If someone goes canyon-carving a lot, they might notice it. In the kid-schlepping, errand-running, commuting-on-congested-highways driving most people do, I think the Elantra's steering is just fine. There's no canyons where I live. :)

    I am curious how the GT will steer and ride compared to the sedan. The old GT, which I own (2004), had a distinctly firmer ride than the GLS sedan. It had "sport-tuned suspension" but I don't think the steering was any different. The tires were the same size as the GLS sedan also, 15" (albeit with alloys). 17" wheels will be available on the GT, and not only is the suspension "sport-tuned" but the steering is supposed to have 3 different settings, which to my knowledge is a first in this class. I think I'll like a crisper steering feel compared to the sedan, but not sure I'll like a firmer suspension since I drive on a lot of bad roads. If they can figure out how to firm up the ride while maintaining compliance, ala cars like the Focus and Golf, that will be welcome. I'll stick to the 16" standard wheels on the GT though, to put a little more rubber and air between me and the road.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    I'm waiting to hear about colors and packages. Particularly since the sport suspension is packaged with 17 inch wheels and the panoramic sunroof. I'm thinking I'd prefer 16 inch wheels for the same reason but I might want the sport suspension, and I might NOT want that monster sunroof. Wheels of course would be easy to swap out, but that sunroof is an entirely different story.

    ANd of course, I'm hoping there's a nice obnoxious metallic red or blue available :shades:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    Likely both red and blue. Red for me please--that's what my 2004 GT is (Race Red). :)
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Yes but will either be METALLIC? The regular Elantra only has oneetallic I think: a light blue.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    The red on the sedan is metallic, blue is also. I like the Desert Bronze on the Elantra sedan also, with the tan interior. Not as flashy as red or blue, but not the same-old gray and silver.

    My Race Red is not metallic but I like it anyway. My favorite is the medium red pearl offered by some companies e.g. GM.
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