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Steve: I wanted the better handling and grip that the OEM profile couldn't deliver. I would rather have not spent the money on the wheels but wheels and tires are one place I will not scrimp on a car. The brakes may be excellent but if the tires can't grip they're useless. As for wheels I have seen too many bargain brand knockoffs of known designs fail with terrible consequences. I would rather brown bag for a couple of months to get the best I can afford.
They do look pretty nice, too. Not many people expect that in a Forester.
Ed
I'm still going back and forth between the P1's and P7's. I've seen a few SL threads in the nasioc Tri-State about people bending them.
Then again the Rota SDR's look nice too (if they're reliable).
-Dennis
-Dennis
I know that my tire choices seem misguided but there's some logic to it.
I doubt I will auto-x this car ever again, so summer/track type tires aren't a consideration. I also hope to be in a situation where I won't need dedicated winter tires. The Pilot Sport's tread pattern can handle loose gravel well enough. It is a better summer performer than many dedicated summer-only tires.
There is also a good possibility that my wife will need a new car this year. One option that has been floated is that she take my Forester and I buy something else. If that something else is another Forester then the 17" combo can go on there. The SP5000/OEM alloy combo can stay on the car.
If that something else is a WRX wagon, then I come out badly in that the proper 17" tire fitment is 215/45-17. I would at least have a set of 17" wheels that will fit anything in the current Subaru range. The only other Subaru product that I would consider at this stage is a Legacy GT wagon, but not if it only continues to be available with the Phase II EJ25 in current tune.
I don't know if that made sense but that's how I'm justifying it to myself. :-)
Ed
I'll try to see you Sunday.
-Dennis
Hope to see you as well.
Ed
Cheers Pat.
Now something you said: <As for wheels I have seen too many bargain brand knockoffs of known designs fail with terrible consequences> did strike a nerve. I checked into OB wheels from the dealer, but at $300 each, no way. I tried a number of recyclers (wrecking yards) that deal in foreign makes, but nothing. I thought about genuine WRX wheels (as take-offs are available, or I-club), but was under the mistaken impression that they were narrower (6" vs 6.5") to go with the 205 vs 225mm tires. So that left me with aftermarket. Now I know that it is probably a bias opinion, but the folks at TireRack suggested their house brand FOMB wheels. I can only hope that they do not fall into the category you make mention of!!!
Steve
Maybe you mean the calipers, in which case I'm not concerned about them. I like my aftermarket wheels but I'm not going for the boy racer look or trying to pretend I have four-pots. Besides, it'd be just another thing to make a dealer think I'm some mod-happy kid, giving them the thinnest of excuses to void my warranty.
Steve (fibber): I am thinking specifically of Rota brand wheels, which many WRX owners seem fond of for price and appearance. They are knockoffs of Speedline and OZ wheels and don't sem to be made to exacting tolerances. Early runs apparently required some kind of plastic centering hub to be inserted into the wheel (?) which doesn't strike me as a sign of quality.
Tire Rack's brand may be just fine; did you do any independent research?
I may have inadvertently started a flame war but I didn't intend that.
Ed
Thats basically what you want to happen as the swept area is always clean anyway.
Of course having the rotors Cad. plated is the way to go but not really feasable on rotors that already have rust.
Cheers Pat.
I'll look into the VHT paint either at my local NAPA or, if I have to, at Pep Boys. I hope it can be brushed on, otherwise they'll be a lot of masking, assembly and disassembly involved if in spray form.
I'm a bit distracted by this space shuttle explosion, will have to think about this more coherently later.
Ed
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30- 9119
It speaks not only to the acknowledged weaknesses in the Rota product, but also to the effort by the manufacturer to satisfy concerned customers. Maybe the Rota product will improve, in which case I should retract my statement in part; time will tell.
Ed
IMHO,rusty rotors behind a beatiful set of rims is a turnoff, in other words apart from the performance aspect what is the biggest reason to mount aftermarket rims, its to dress up the vehicle.
Cheers Pat.
So take off the flame suit, and relax.
Steve
-Colin
;-)
Ross, now semi-retired and loving it
Cheers!
Paul
Cheers Pat.
What Paul and Pat said.
"T-Rufus" ;-)
-Dave
Greg
P.S. Good to hear from you.
Steve
Take care,
Ross
Steve - My trout is an old Newfoundland expression, but since I seem to recall you are a fellow fly fisher,...
Some of you were curious. My '63 Studebaker Lark sedan, 62,200 original miles. I'm the third owner. Repainted in 2000 in the original color.
The Forester serves as an occasional parts hauler for the old dear.
Ed
-Ian
Ross - Did some deep sea fishing when I was young, but never been fly fishing. But it does look like a relaxing and enjoyable hobby.
Steve
While the Stude mechanic had it, I went ahead and had him replace the oil pan gasket and the rear main seal - tough jobs to do without a lift. It had gotten very leaky - even by Studebaker standards - and even though I have a "car diaper" beneath it on the garage floor, its leakiness has been a source of consternation in the household. So it should at least keep my wife happy, lower my oil bills and improve the environment marginally. ;-)
It's ready to pick up but with the snowstorm today there's no way I could get it and drive it back here.
Ed
Nice photos. It's cool knowing I won't have to ever "imagine" what my Forester would look like with Prodrives.
Whoo-hoo! Original recipe black Foresters!
Ken
-juice
-juice
There was not much trade off in comfort for a highly enjoyable car, I was able to do this as I drove the Accord exclusively, Rita was rarely in it, now that we have only one car I have to drive more conservative, so a lowered car would be a waste of time and money.
Plus there is that warranty thing car makers take a dim view of modified cars with warranty issues.
Cheers Pat.
MNSteve
Well maybe I have too much negative camber, but I will be bummed if the alignment makes it go away. This is one sweet setup. Damping over pavement heaves and expansion joints is smoother and more fluid than the AGX. Pretty low look, but not poseur.
And the fast corners? Jeez Louise. I have some track time and a dozen auto-x's under my belt (and 2 rallycrosses).....I'm no expert, but I'm not a newbie either. This set up is very, very easy to drive fast. Excellent set in transitions, great road feel, increased turn in sensitivity, great over pavement imperfections, lots of telegraphed info thru the wheel to the driver. We'll see what happens after the alignment. I will give it another few days for the springs to settle, then make an appt.
Cheers Pat.
I miss my 89 Accord every single day, that car was just a joy to drive, it cornered like it was on rails, it was dropped about 1.75 inchs. the engine had head and cam work, along with headers and a catback and intake, gave it some grunt in the midrange where Hondas really need it, and to top it off it was totally reliable.
Cheers Pat.
you can see the intake and the dc sport headers.
Cheers Pat.
Cheers Pat.
I envy your setup
-mike
Ludespeed is out of business, right? Major bummer.
It would be fun to turbo Sandy, just for the rarity. But I want that big honking moonroof too.
-juice
1) used WRX wagon
2) used WRX driveline (either 2.0l or, better, 2.5t) and associated wiring dropped in.
Cheers Pat.
Every year there is a celebration of winter and ice carvers and sculptors come from all over the world to compete and demonstrate their considerable skills.
Cheers Pat.
Cheers Pat.
...and once we were dug out (Hey, does that look like too much negative camber in back tou you guys?)
-mike
Been havin' fun out there?
-juice
Sales rep lady said about $28k for the XT, fwiw.
I have more photos from the show not uploaded yet, but these are all the XT pics. Enjoy - I did!
-Brian