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2013 Subaru Outback

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Glad to hear you're happy with the seats. A very important part of the car, if we think about it!
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,457
    edited September 2012
    This new OB lumbar support is right up there with those units.

    And the lack of ANY lumbar support on a 2012 Impreza, let alone the Sport Limited, is right up there with a 20th century base model. :cry:
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 186
    Have had our OB for a week now (1600 miles) and must say we are pleased. As I wrote in previous posts heres's a few things of note:

    Better ride and handling than our '10 Legacy, the road feel is excellent.
    Power seems better and smoother.
    Due to some of the problems stated by others with very low miles the dealer suggested, and we put 400 miles on prior to leaving Colorado.
    Even with fewer than 1500 miles on it one tankful read (actual calculation) at 29.2 MPG. Not too shabby.
    Plugged my iPad in and I noticed severe static on it. As one of the books I just downloaded I switched over to one that I had already listened to and it was the same. Will have that checked. Also when I plugged my phone into the USB to charge it the XM radio lost it signal and one of the symbols popped up on the screen. Punching the SAT button got it back on. Will try this some more with the radio on AM or FM. Come to that I'll try taking the radio off SAT prior to hitting the AUX button.

    I have to double check but the distance between the wheel wells seems wider than in the Legacy.

    All for now.

    easypar
  • I am considering buying the outback 2.5 limited. I have never owned a subaru before but I like their philosophy. You say the 2013 has little relationship to earlier models regarding noise, smoothness and response. The dealership said the 2013 had no real improvements from 2011, 2012. Are you comparing it to earlier models.?
  • this is a really great forum!. I have never owned a Subaru before but like their philosophy. I am having real trouble doing direct comparisons as different makes use different terms.
    My prime concern is safety, with environmentally responsible a second. I think I have narrowed it down to fully loaded 2013 at about 34K vs volvo wagon xc70 ( not as much fun as OB or XC60 but great rear visibility. but sticker shock at 48K!!! ( 5 years free maintainance though including brakes and wipers) I am a 60 year old female with a bad back and am noticing that I am not the brilliant, alert driver that I once was.. hence my desire for collision avoidance etc. Can anyone help me in this decision?
    I know I want AWD as I live in a winter snow area and would need mild off road capability. Also as I am used to a van and I seem to live in my car and move large items often, I am loathe to go too small.thanks in advance for any help. Also does anyone know why the OB only gets 4/5 starts with the new rating system?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,392
    Oh, it has some real improvements over the prior model years. The first is that is used the new FB engine block. The second is that it claims 40% less body roll than the 2012, which equates directly to a better handling, more reliable (over the long term) car.

    It also has the Eyesight system, which is new to 2013, and may play into that comment in your second post about your age and level of alertness. I wouldn't want something like that on my car, but you may find it to be a useful tool.

    What vehicle do you drive now, as a point of reference?
  • Hi, I have a 2013 Legacy 3.6R with Nav. Every time I start the car I get the safety disclaimer on the Nav screen. It takes 4 seconds and then give me the option to agree or not. Is there a way to accept once and for all or is this something that comes on every time?

    On the Bluetooth, mine seems to do funky things. It shows connected on my Blackberry but not connected on the Nav screen. I have to turn off the Bluetooth on my phone, re-start it and then connect with the car. If I do this the connection is fine for a few days then starts over with the same routine. Any thoughts?

    By the way, I had a 2010 without the Nav. I did not like it at the beginning but am now a converted Subaru guy, this is a great car.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,392
    I love that fact that even though my new Ford has all this Bluetooth nonsense on it, I don't have a device to connect to it, so I cannot contrast the Subaru system as you presented it to any other systems out there.

    There is something very relaxing about being able to simply be unavailable. :shades:
  • I went from the 2003 Outback to the 2013 and have to say it is a different vehicle, way larger and much better! It can easily compete with the 2011 Volvo station wagon my neighbor has!
  • I have a 2008 2.5 XT turbo Outback. great car but terrible gas mileage! Starting to look for a new car, considering a sedan, but since I like the Subarus I think I should at least consider them.

    For those who drove earlier Subarus (before the new design) how do you like the 2013 model in comparison? Having more room in the backseat would be nice for my kids. What about the ride, the mileage, the features? I'm not all that hot on the styling, but it seems to be growing on me.

    Thanks.
  • I had a 2012 2.5i Premium and now have the 2013 2.5i Limited, Special Appearence Package. Im averaging 24mph after 2000 miles, a majority of it in town so its right on the mark for city milage. I've averaged 29mph on a few 110 mile round trip highway, at 80mph.

    There are some changes from the previous models to the 2013---mostly with a 2nd generation CVT, suspension, styling, and a few other misc. things. The 2013's have air vents in the back seat and my 6 year old complained on the 2012 that he got hot a lot. No issues with the 2013 because of the vent in the back seat for heat/air condition.
  • I have a 10 year old Sienna minivan which I love for comfort and cargo and heated seats.. However, it doesn't have side impact airbags. 2 of my kids drive a Prius... it is an early model and the seat really isn't comfortable for me.. also not automatic seat position which I need due to arthritis.
    I am very irritated that the keyless ignition only comes with the "special appearance package" on the subaru as I love not having to get the key out of my purse or pocket... it's nothing to do with appearance to me!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,392
    I have keyless entry on my Fiesta. I admit that I'm beginning to get spoiled by it and like it for now (I find myself forgetting to take the key to the Forester out of my pocket until after I sit down in it!), but I can also see the many pitfalls of having such a system as the car ages. The jury is still out on this one, but I think overall I will find it to be better in the long run to have a keyed ignition system.

    The Outback will be a good downsize move from a minivan. We went from a Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD) to our Forester. It was a massive downsize, but wasn't the system shock that going to something like a Prius might be (just from the perspective of seating position alone!). Cost aside, the good news on the Special Appearance Package is that those seats are fabulous. :blush:
  • thanks for your input
  • that will be the 5th year, 2010,11,12,13,etc
  • I am impressed with all I have read about the OB's handling in snow and ice. Here in the south we get more mud than other 'inclement' conditions. I am not looking for trail rated rock crawler or mud holer; just something I can get down to the creek with; and back out when it rains.

    Having driven in Alaska I take with a grain of salt knowing that kind of snow is DRY therefore much different than the WET stuff we get here. Ga red mud is a different animal.

    I do understand every awd/4wd has it's limits.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,392
    I think tires are the biggest limiter when it comes to mud, much more so than in snow. Especially in clay-based mud, where it seals into the tread blocks and turns the tires into smooth pottery wheels.

    If they use the Continental tires they started using in 2010, I imagine you'll be disappointed the first time you encounter a particularly nasty patch.
  • First off, yeah, we love our 13 OB. I had an 05 Legacy GT Ltd and the ride is obviously much better. I love driving it, I love how it looks. I got talked out of the higher end features but overall, I'm pleased.

    Weird thing I noticed, and I drove to my local to find out if all the 13 OBs had the same deal. The rear passenger doors have a weird body colored patch near the bottom corner on the outside. You kinda have to look right at it, but I saw it and though "that's weird". The dealer said that its to protect against rocks kicking up but I thought that sounded like BS. I didn't push it.

    Thoughts? Seems like a really random place to expect rock damage.
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    edited October 2012
    I believe that's not body colored but a clear plastic shield... I think it's goofy, too, but I believe what you were told is legit...

    Cheers -Mathias
  • ggroeggroe Posts: 4
    Hi there,

    First time poster here -- I really appreciate all of the details that you guys have shared in this thread, as it definitely helped me in making a purchase. A few days ago I got a 2013 2.5i Premium w/ the all weather and moonroof packages, and I'm loving it so far.

    However, two questions / observations:

    1) Most of the time when I start up the car the blue light comes on in the dash indicating cold coolant. The owner's manual isn't very helpful in explaining this, but a little bit of Google searching seemed to suggest that this is just a reminder to take it easy until the engine is fully warmed up. It is indeed just fine to drive while this light is on, though, right? It's just a reminder not to floor it until the engine is fully warmed up?
    2) The outside temp display seems to have been fairly accurate until now, but I did notice tonight that it seemed to show about 8 degrees warmer than the actual outside temp. It hadn't been sitting in direct sunlight, and this distortion lasted for about the entire hour that I was out driving tonight. Has anyone else experienced this?

    Thanks!
  • All my cars that have/had outside temperature indicators seem to deviate from the "official" temperature (the one they say on the radio). First, the official temp is taken (in our area) at the airport in a certain height above the ground.

    The vehicle sensor is relative close to the road surface. If this road is traveled heavy, the surface warms up and also the ambient temperature around this road is warmer. The vehicle measures this increased temp and thus the deviation.
  • ggroeggroe Posts: 4
    FWIW, the outside temp display was showing 58 degrees this morning, when in reality it was about 45-49 degrees outside. This persisted throughout my 30 minute morning commute, with the outside temp display never getting lower than 55.
  • typesixtypesix Posts: 314
    edited October 2012
    Yes, it's fine to drive gently with the blue light on. Subaru doesn't want give lower versions a real temp gauge so they give an idiot light. Just watch it if car is warmed up, the former blue light starts to blink red(indicating water temp is getting too high). Solid red means overheat time. All detailed in owner's manual.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,392
    Yes, it is a clear plastic covering. They've put those on there for several years. My '10 Forester has them. It is the most likely place on the vehicle for rock chips in the paint simply because any rock kicked up off the front tires will hit that spot. Even with the quasi-mudflap accessory, rocks hit that area on a regular basis. Because of the restrictions on paint ingredients, paint is just not durable enough these days to withstand rock impacts.

    The best solution is to put real mudflaps on the car, but this has less visual (and cost) impact and works pretty well, too.
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 186
    We now have about 3300 miles on our new OB with 2.5. Put about 2200 on it cross country to a high school reunion and averaged 30-32 on those all interstate tanks. The most recent tank was 450 +/- miles, 130 of that on the interstate, suitcases, one set of golf clubs etc. The other 320 was in and around town, with an 80 miles round trip into the Rockies. In that time we also got our first pre-paid oil change.

    Filled the tank last night and got (actual-calculated) 29.3 mpg. I was pretty happy with that.
  • Anyone know of a vibration problem affecting any new 2013 Outbacks? I know this WAS a problem with older models, however, on a recent test drive of a "Premium" Outback, I felt "stuttering" or "vibration" from the wheels all the way up to the steering wheel. My friend who was riding in the back also felt it. It was odd because I had test driven 2 other Outbacks without incident, one a "Basic" and another "Premium". This most recent test was another dealer with the Bronze color I wanted. The salesman tried to convince me it was a "tire pressure" problem, but if I have to be maniacal about tire pressure, this is not the car for me. Anyway, this has now made me think this might be a carry over from some of the other vibration problems people had with older models. Thanks if you can give any insight. :lemon:
  • ggroeggroe Posts: 4
    FWIW, I have about 600 miles on my 2013 2.5i Premium and haven't noticed any vibration issues. Overall, I've been quite pleased with the car in all respects, minus the decent-but-not-great sound system and a somewhat inaccurate outside temp gauge.
  • I have mine now close to 3000 miles and have no vibration or anything else that would be of any concern.
  • 2013ob2013ob Posts: 13
    My 2013 2.5i Limited has had no vibration issues since I purchased it 2600 miles ago.
  • Thanks folks for your input on the "vibration" I felt on my Outback test drive. I am feeling more comfortable about my future purchase.
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