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2013 Subaru Outback

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  • newgreencar13newgreencar13 Posts: 3
    edited August 2012
    -----We own the 2013 Outback 3.6R Limited, and got the car last Thursday (8/23), and absolutely LOVED it...for about 4 days and <150 miles. On a quick evening jaunt, suddenly the check engine light came on (solid) as well as the cruise control (blinking), brake light (blinking), and traction control (solid). There was no obvious loss of power, but we pulled over and called our sales guy that we bought the car from. He said to have it looked at by the dealership.
    -----As I was driving it "cold" (hadn't been used that day yet) out of my driveway to the dealership the next day, I noticed that the transmission had a higher-pitch "whine" to it when accelerating at low speeds. We intentionally bought the 3.6L (6 cylinder) engine because we wanted to avoid the CVT "whine" from that tranny. I am a mechanical engineer, and so I tend to pay attention to these details.
    ------The first appt at a near-dealership took 2 hours (quoted 20-30 min) and left me frustrated. They pulled code P1843 (transmission pressure sensor malfunction) and said that the transmission wiring harness connection was not fully connected, so they did that, and then cleared the problem codes so that the lights would go off on the dash. The car still whined and I decided to take it in again.
    -----The second service trip (today) to a farther-dealership is still in process&#151;they gave me a loaner car and sent me home. They hadn&#146;t heard the whine (possibly the 30 min drive warmed up the tranny), and so they wanted to keep it overnight.
    -----However, I learned from the service tech that code P1843 has been associated with a Subaru Service Bulletin that involved a buildup of "manufacturing sediment" in the transmission. A first try fix is to flush the transmission, and if that doesn&#146;t work, then a very expensive ($900) part of the transmission (head? I can't remember) would need to be changed. Unfortunately, the near-dealership had cleared the code from memory, and Subaru's policy is that if the code is not currently showing, then they can't perform the Service Bulletin work under warranty.
    -----Has anyone else seen these issues in a brand-new 2013 Subaru Outback 3.6L 6 cylinder? Check engine light on solid, other lights flashing, and a newly whiny/whining transmission sound? This is our first Subaru, and hopefully they can resolve this so that we can have many thousands of happy miles to come!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good luck and keep us posted. Let them know an on-line community is following your case to motivate them to get to a resolution.

    Can I ask for a few hard returns, white space, to make your posts easier to read?
  • Suprised to find this!
    Last night (Aug. 31) we drove off the lot a green 2013 Outback 2.5i and were a mere 2 miles down the road and the exact same warning lights came up on our dash plus we had the AT Oil Temp light (solid). As it was the end of the day, the dealer was closed and we were close to home, we went home for the night.

    After talking with the dealer first thing in the morn we drove it "cold" to the dealership where they drew a code P2762 from their dignostics.

    They managed to clear all the alerts and we went for a healthy test drive with the tech. and all was ok but Murphy's law - 1/2 a mile from leaving the dealer the dash light up again. Much head scratching back at the dealership.

    As there is no immediate service bulletin associated with that dignostic code, and it being the long weekend, we are forced to wait till next tuesday for any information from Subaru.

    Talk about killing the euphoria / excitement of buying a new car...
    That end of summer road trip is not the same in a loaner car :(

    Will be curious to see how your issues are resolved and if these problems are possibly related.

    Cheers
  • Sorry...new to the forum and for some reason I wan't able to get the "hard return" working that day.
    I think it's working today.
    Thanks.
  • Hi onyxbox,

    So, some good news on our saga...the second farther-dealership ended up flushing our transmission for us, based on that Service Bulletin. I know that they DID mention that an "oil light" on the dash was also associated with this Service Bulletin. I'm not sure if your code P2762 was actually related or not (they wouldn't allow me to get a copy of the bulletin), but it may be worth you asking!

    Our whining transmission issue seems to be the norm. We did test drive a completely different 2013 Outback 3.6L just yesterday to see what it would sound like, and it had a very similar "whine". (I think ours is slightly louder, but I'm giving up for now.)

    Time will tell...we hope this fixes ours for good! We are trying to get past all of this and back to enjoying our new car. Good luck with your issue, and hopefully you can enjoy yours soon too! Thank goodness for this forum, or else I'd feel we were the only ones on the planet with an issue with a new Subaru...
  • The SD slot is where the navigation SD goes. You can also put you own photos on the system that way. Look in the navigation book and it will walk you through how to do it. I also bought a 2013 Outback 3.6 Premium with every single option and spent an hour playing with the Harman/Kardon system today... Best
  • bbmdbbmd Posts: 4
    Heard from person giving the factory tour last week that the Outback was due for a major facelift next year (2014), but in the past these vehicles have usually gone 5 years before a major revision and the last major revision of the Outback was in 2010 so I would not think the next major revision would occur before 2015. Does anyone know? Any idea as to what future modifications might be in the works- I've read rumors about a hybrid. Wish they would add a Blind Spot warning system to the Eye Sight system (I personally think this is a more important safety feature than the lane departure warning) and turn signals in the outside mirrors to all Outbacks, not just those with the Special Appearance package.
  • Bought might on 8/8/12 2.5 days later and at 250 miles had p0700, p1843. Dealer found nothing, eventually flushed fluid, checked wiring- They bought my car back and replaced with new one- Knock on something... New one now 500+ miles and no issues at one week off lot. check out subaruoutback dot org for more info
  • ljnymdljnymd Posts: 1
    edited September 2012
    I also got the 13 outback with eyesight and navi and have trouble believing they are made by the same company. The eyesight is excellent and appears to have thoughtfully addressed many tough challenges in that new technology. I use it s the time.

    The navi on the other hand is awful. It is bad enough that it has a clunky interface and takes many more steps to find new destinations. What is worse is that it makes stupid mistakes such as the voice announcing "Exit the highway" when the display clearly indicates you have many miles to go before the next turn. Also, the decision rule for how long before a turn you get the audible warning seems highly inconsistent, ranging from 1000 ft to forgetting altogether; and the speed of the car seems to have nothing to do with it. You can buy an aftermarket model for $100 that is much better than this one.

    I dont get it, the company has really done a great job on a brand new and tough technogy, and then failed on something that had been done well bay many companies for 10 years! I am hoping gor and update on the navi software, at least to fix the errors, I can get used to the interface.
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 171
    Picked our new unit up on Wednesday and turned 100 miles on the clock yesterday. I was allowed to drive a few of those miles and a couple of things jump out at me:

    Smoother ride than my '10 Legacy. Overall length is about 2" more so I'm guessing that enough of that is in the wheelbase that it makes a difference.

    The inflatable LUMBAR SUPPORT. OK, I've only ever driven one import that had one that could match the full size Ford/Mercury/Lincoln products that were our company cars, and that was the Infiniti M (older ones). One of my buddies had one and he and I used to take it on golf outings and we would alternate driving. It was really great in that Infiniti.

    This new OB lumbar support is right up there with those units. Much better than in the Lexus we traded for this unit. So much so that I won't be taking my little foam pad one with me when we head off on our road trip next week.

    Glad we have a real temperature gauge now, although cars overheating is not something that seems to be much of an issue like it was in the 50's and 60's. Better engines now!

    The fuel economy gauge was a bit off-putting at first but I'm used to it now.

    I should have much more in a couple of weeks when we get back from Cincinnati.

    easypar
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Glad to hear you're happy with the seats. A very important part of the car, if we think about it!
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,432
    edited September 2012
    This new OB lumbar support is right up there with those units.

    And the lack of ANY lumbar support on a 2012 Impreza, let alone the Sport Limited, is right up there with a 20th century base model. :cry:
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 171
    Have had our OB for a week now (1600 miles) and must say we are pleased. As I wrote in previous posts heres's a few things of note:

    Better ride and handling than our '10 Legacy, the road feel is excellent.
    Power seems better and smoother.
    Due to some of the problems stated by others with very low miles the dealer suggested, and we put 400 miles on prior to leaving Colorado.
    Even with fewer than 1500 miles on it one tankful read (actual calculation) at 29.2 MPG. Not too shabby.
    Plugged my iPad in and I noticed severe static on it. As one of the books I just downloaded I switched over to one that I had already listened to and it was the same. Will have that checked. Also when I plugged my phone into the USB to charge it the XM radio lost it signal and one of the symbols popped up on the screen. Punching the SAT button got it back on. Will try this some more with the radio on AM or FM. Come to that I'll try taking the radio off SAT prior to hitting the AUX button.

    I have to double check but the distance between the wheel wells seems wider than in the Legacy.

    All for now.

    easypar
  • I am considering buying the outback 2.5 limited. I have never owned a subaru before but I like their philosophy. You say the 2013 has little relationship to earlier models regarding noise, smoothness and response. The dealership said the 2013 had no real improvements from 2011, 2012. Are you comparing it to earlier models.?
  • this is a really great forum!. I have never owned a Subaru before but like their philosophy. I am having real trouble doing direct comparisons as different makes use different terms.
    My prime concern is safety, with environmentally responsible a second. I think I have narrowed it down to fully loaded 2013 at about 34K vs volvo wagon xc70 ( not as much fun as OB or XC60 but great rear visibility. but sticker shock at 48K!!! ( 5 years free maintainance though including brakes and wipers) I am a 60 year old female with a bad back and am noticing that I am not the brilliant, alert driver that I once was.. hence my desire for collision avoidance etc. Can anyone help me in this decision?
    I know I want AWD as I live in a winter snow area and would need mild off road capability. Also as I am used to a van and I seem to live in my car and move large items often, I am loathe to go too small.thanks in advance for any help. Also does anyone know why the OB only gets 4/5 starts with the new rating system?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    Oh, it has some real improvements over the prior model years. The first is that is used the new FB engine block. The second is that it claims 40% less body roll than the 2012, which equates directly to a better handling, more reliable (over the long term) car.

    It also has the Eyesight system, which is new to 2013, and may play into that comment in your second post about your age and level of alertness. I wouldn't want something like that on my car, but you may find it to be a useful tool.

    What vehicle do you drive now, as a point of reference?
  • Hi, I have a 2013 Legacy 3.6R with Nav. Every time I start the car I get the safety disclaimer on the Nav screen. It takes 4 seconds and then give me the option to agree or not. Is there a way to accept once and for all or is this something that comes on every time?

    On the Bluetooth, mine seems to do funky things. It shows connected on my Blackberry but not connected on the Nav screen. I have to turn off the Bluetooth on my phone, re-start it and then connect with the car. If I do this the connection is fine for a few days then starts over with the same routine. Any thoughts?

    By the way, I had a 2010 without the Nav. I did not like it at the beginning but am now a converted Subaru guy, this is a great car.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    I love that fact that even though my new Ford has all this Bluetooth nonsense on it, I don't have a device to connect to it, so I cannot contrast the Subaru system as you presented it to any other systems out there.

    There is something very relaxing about being able to simply be unavailable. :shades:
  • I went from the 2003 Outback to the 2013 and have to say it is a different vehicle, way larger and much better! It can easily compete with the 2011 Volvo station wagon my neighbor has!
  • I have a 2008 2.5 XT turbo Outback. great car but terrible gas mileage! Starting to look for a new car, considering a sedan, but since I like the Subarus I think I should at least consider them.

    For those who drove earlier Subarus (before the new design) how do you like the 2013 model in comparison? Having more room in the backseat would be nice for my kids. What about the ride, the mileage, the features? I'm not all that hot on the styling, but it seems to be growing on me.

    Thanks.
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