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Chevy Volt

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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts.

    Cheap Volt lease offers meant to drive more customers to Chevy showrooms this summer may have pushed that loss even higher. There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/10/us-generalmotors-autos-volt-idUSBRE889- 04J20120910
  • I have only had my volt since Sept 05th.
    I only have 229 miles on it.
    (I have a diesel work truck)
    I have not used a drop of gas yet.
    I just love the car!
  • I have 6500 miles on my Volt, best car I ever owned. Averaging 46 miles per charge, 38 MPH on gas, 103 MPG on the computer. Evertime I blow by a d-wad in an F-1,2,350 obviously compesating for something God forgot to give them, I laugh till I cry.
  • We have nine solar PV arrays on roof and so we can send watts directly to Volt during day; the fit and finish of the Volt is beautiful. I've used 1.2 gals of gas and gone almost 200 miles. A great value; a great car.
  • Well, I hate to be a party pooper but if you went 5 weeks and used no gas, you probably could have gone with an EV rather than a hybrid. I've gone 3 months now and more than 1500 miles in my Mitsubishi iMiEV and bought NO GAS. It's the best.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    If you live where it rarely gets hot or real cold you should be fine with your EV. The Leaf is showing premature loss of battery capacity in hot places like AZ and CA. Without solar panels here in CA our electricity is too expensive. How many miles are you getting on a full charge?
  • Not being a "party pooper" but you do point out why they make more than one flavor of Ice Cream. :-)

    The Mits is a great little car, but every car is really just a "tool" (think of them as a hammer my kids hate that). What type of construction work you are doing determines which hammer you buy.

    Although he was only driving to work for the last 5 weeks... does not mean that he might not need to drive his car to another state this week. The first two months my Volt was only used for local commuting where a pure EV would have worked fine... but then came the trip from Utah to Vegas, down to SoCal and then back to Utah. Now you could do that trip in an EV... but it would have taken a really long time waiting for all the re-charging...

    Now that is a "silly" example, but just meant to illustrate a point. We all have slightly different needs so which tool is the "best," must be determined not by the choice someone else made, but rather by each individual. Personally I had planned on buying the Prius PHEV when it came out as I have owned 3 Prius vehicles and like each one. However, when I learned it only had 13 miles of EV range... I said "Ehh... what is that supposed to do." Did not make any sense for me... but it does qualify for the HOV lanes in California and elsewhere which probably makes it a great car for those folks. Then I moved on and was going to buy the Honda Fit EV. However, my disabled daughter who does not drive as much anymore needed a vehicle and I thought the Volt would be perfect for her. So I jumped the gun and ordered one (as it was going to take some time to get one from my local dealer). Then my daughter determined that she preferred the Malibu so Voila... I have a Volt :-)
  • My routine is to drive to and from work each day. I make side trips occasionally but nothing grand. My roundtrip commute is 36 miles. Each night when I come home I've used about half of the battery. I plug it into my standard 120V outlet and in the morning I'm ready to go. A full charge each morning leaves me with between 68 and 73 miles depending on how I drove it the day before.
    I've noticed, maybe, a 10% impact when I turn on the heat or the AC. I'm in New England. Winter is coming so I'll keep reporting back how the car is responding. Mitsubishi has been selling this car for years in Norway so I'm not expecting any show stoppers.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,811
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  • Can you tell us more about connecting the Solar Arrays to the Volt during the day? Would love to have a Solar Canopy at home but I like the idea of utilizing Solar while at work as well. Thank you!
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,362
    hello....

    we are thinking about a chevy volt. What do you guys think ?

    We were offered a fully loaded Premium package, safety 1 & 2, Navigation, for $39,900.

    Before dealer incentives .

    This is my first time posting in 5 years...
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    Welcome back after 5 years. What year Volt are you looking at. There are still a lot of 2011 & 2012s left for sale. If you are in CA there is a cutoff date for getting certain incentives. Chevy made some changes in the 2013 model to get CA to accept the Volt for HOV lane access. A loaded one with the features you show has a TMV of $37,248. That includes the current $5000 cash off that started August 1st. Looks like you should be able to get them down another $2700. Before the $7500 tax credit if you can use that this year.
  • Are you saying there are a lot of "brand new" 2011 and 2012 Volt's still out there?

    I was not aware of that.

    I have a 2012 leased, but would be interested in a "super" deal on another!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    Both Autotrader and Cars.com list several hundred new 2011 & 12s. have no idea what kind of deals. There is over 5000 2013 left out there. Should be dealing according to Edmunds TMV.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,362
    Well, we were looking at 2013 new. the Newer model.

    Best price we got was $ 39,700 with premiumpackage, safety 1 & 2, and Nav. Before the $5000 dealer incentive.

    thanks
  • So $34,700 ... now did you include the 7,500 government rebate in that number?

    I suppose there are probably still some state rebates also.... but none in Nevada that i know of.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    Looks like GM is slashing another $5000 off the MSRP of the Volt. Wait a while they may be in boxes of Cracker Jacks.

    2013 Chevrolet Volt (GM)

    General Motors Co. is slashing the price of its plug-in hybrid Chevrolet Volt by $5,000, making it the latest automaker to lower prices of electric vehicles in the face of lagging consumer demand.

    The Detroit-based automaker said it will cut the base price 12.5 percent, from $39,995 to $34,995. The price cut comes just weeks after the automaker announced a $5,000 give-back on the 2012 Volt and $4,000 on the 2013 model.


    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130806/AUTO0103/308060026/1148/rss25
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    edited August 2013
    Thank you for that information and link......

    The question it brings up in my mind is... does this replace the "give-back" price-cuts or is it in addition to?

    In other words if the base car MSRP is now $34,995 is there another $4k give back that brings the price for a 2013 model down to $30,995 before the $7,500 government rebate?

    Or did they just replace the $4k give back with the across the board $5k drop in MSRP?

    Thanks for your time and info,
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    edited August 2013
    Well Chevy is really confusing me now... at a time when there are apparently still Brand New 2012 Volts available (unsure how many but there are a bunch of 2013's still on the lots) they have dropped the MSRP on 2014 Volts by $5k and are also offering a $5k discount on 2013 models.

    Now as the new 2014 Volt's are supposedly hitting the dealers lots starting this week... that means the price of either a 2013 Volt or 2014 Volt is the same (except for any year to year price changes).

    Which begs the question WHY would GM do that. If you are presented with a 2013 and 2014 model for essentially the same price... who would buy the 2013?

    Unless they have all gone off their collective "rockers" I cannot understand why there is not an additional incentive to move the 2013 models?
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,846
    If you are serious about the Volt and plan on keeping it a while, I would get the newest one you can. Those batteries are not holding full charge as long as they had hoped for. Better yet just lease for 3 years and give it back or trade for a new one. I have no clue why they are not heavily discounting the 12s and 13s. Maybe they think people are just stupid.
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