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The first time or two I was in the Escape, I heard some wind noise (cross bars?), but I don't remember hearing last time I drove it.
I apologize if I've posted in the wrong forum, but here goes. My dad is a Ford employee and I can get "D-plan" pricing on new Ford vehicles through him. This translates to about a 4% discount. This would be on top of the $2000 available rebate. The 2013 Escape "S" model with these discounts is right around my price point.
The other vehicle in contention is a certified 2011 CR-V EX with under 40,000 miles. This would likely bring a similar price tag.
Naturally, my dad is pushing me to get the Escape "S", but Hondas are just so reliable, and that's very important to me. What do you think?
Nick
The sales price for the well maintained, certified 2011 CR-V EX FWD with around 30K miles would likely be between $20,000 and $20,800.
I have serious concerns about the reliability of the new Escape, but far fewer with a used CR-V. What do the more experienced here think? Your opinions are highly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Nick
The CR-V offers dependability, which is also important to me. Perhaps most important.
I'm leaning Ford at this point. I can scrape together the money for either S or SE, and at such deep discounts it is hard to pass it up, given that it would be totally new.
Thanks again! :shades:
I notice it when I am going 25+ Mph and the window is down. Very annoying. Makes me want to keep my window up, all the time. I notice that if I fold the mirror in partially, then the whistling stops.
Sounds a bit like a turbo whine, but it's not. The turbo's in these things are very muffled. I have scarcely ever heard mine.
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Didn't hear anything unusual.
As usual it is plastic, even the part that pulls the lift gate down and something is broken off inside the projections molded in the panel.
Trip to the dealer tomorrow should be entertaining.
Both screws had fallen out and the push pins for the rest of the panel came loose when I pulled the gate down.
To access the screws the handle has to be removed and it is attached by plastic tabs with metal clips over the tabs. Chances of breaking one or both tabs is high.
When the large panel pulled off, it messed up one of the short trim panels that go up the sides of the lift gate so they have to order the part and back to the dealer for an hour for a five minute fix.
The technician said this is the second one he had seen like this. Maybe not common but certainly not unknown. He put Loctite on the screws and hopefully that will permanently fix the issue.
Well I took it to the dealer and luckily the transmission showed the same clunky delayed shifting when going from park to drive. The technician was in the passenger seat when it happened. So the problem was confirmed and they tested everything out and ultimately their fix for this was to replace a part that they called the "valve body", and did some reprogramming to the computer. Not sure yet if all is well since I have not driven too much since the fix.
Anyway for you guys seeing the same problem, take it to the dealer and let them know that this is a documented issue and make sure they fix it.
At first they could not duplicated the symptom I was seeing so they did nothing. I went ahead and contacted Ford customer care directly and they assisted me with setting up another appointment to take a test drive with a technician to help them duplicate the problem and confirm it. Luckily the problem showed up right when we started the test drive. This was a huge concern for me, I thought I was getting stuck with a :lemon:
After many service department trips because of many CEL's and random dead batteries, along with FE that cannot top 19 mpg, the transmission is acting up. In 3rd gear, in both select shift sport mode, or regular drive, there is loss of RPM's , about 300-400, and then the RPM's pick back up. There is no specific RPM where this happens. It happens as long as 2,500 and as high as 5,000. It's a concern. Whether this is a normal characteristic or not remains to be seen as I have yet to drive another one to verify.
I have one but it's huge, 7 feet long, 18 cu ft.
That won't work on the Escape.
I did some homework, but I'm hoping someone has one.
A mechanic told me that in Europe is opposite, they are not as stringent on emission. But get much better mileage.
Anyways, warmer weather and a few more miles have bought things up to average.
Don't want to say what 'things' is.
With that said... I had an Escape SE as a rental once for a few days, and after driving that one, I can absolutely believe all of the problems that people report with these vehicles. Even the clock wouldn't work right on that thing! (It was running at about 20% speed -- it would advance a minute every five minutes or so.) There were problems with the tailgate not fitting properly, problems with the radio not working or randomly turning on/off, problems with the headlights, all kinds of issues with the fit and finish (door panels/center panel weren't fitting properly, etc.)... you name it, this car had it broken. It was a nightmare! I absolutely feel for the folks with problems with their Escapes... if the car I bought had even a quarter of the problems that rental had, I would be absolutely LIVID.
1. Radio Preset Stations: You must be in AM or FM to get to a specific preset station that was programmed. If you are in AM you cannot go to FM directly from an FM preset. What is the easiest way to jump from AM to FM or FM to AM?
2. Sync: Way too many levels to drill down into. Read about Sync before and its shortcomings, so was prepared for it. When using Phone option - having problems with Call Name as it will not correctly identify person to call. Took to dealer and they will try a reload the Software (SW.) Dealer checked to ensure SW was up-to-date. Dealer agrees it is not working.
These are the two issues that we will overcome assuming that Sync is fixed for Phone use.
Will report back upon dealer fix.
Thanks to all who have posted to provide all the excellent tips and suggestions.
They said that you should not use UPPER CASE NAMES and any special characters. OK, changed all my contacts and now it works. However, this is a problem and limitation with SYNC as I have not encountered the problem with my other cars (GM and Mazda) using bluetooth phone search.
SYNC needs some major changes!
There are still other issues to be resolved.
One thing I did at the suggestion of a Ford tech, was to turn off the automatic phone book download. I do a manual download every now and then to update the book. This seemed to help with some other things. I think that updating a huge phonebook (every time you start the car etc.), hogs a lot of resources unnecessarily and can slow down other functions.
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