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2013 Ford Escape

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  • Thanks Steve. Those are great articles, illustrating exactly what we're saying- it's actually very rare nowadays for the cars to be at fault. Most of the time poor fuel economy, especially when people start comparing what they're getting to the window sticker, comes down to one of the items in that first article, and pretty much in the same order they list- conditions, driver style, etc.
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    Those are good articles and excellent advice.

    People who complain that they are getting bad fuel economy never want to blame themselves, so there must be something wrong with the car.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,043
    I'm on a road trip and only got ~21 on my last tank in my van (all time highest hit 29.9).

    But I live in the deer infested two lane boonies and only get to drive 80 once every few months and it's kind of fun to bomb down the Interstate sometimes. :D
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    Special effort and attention is required to operate a motor vehicle and to maximize fuel economy. In real world driving situations, it takes some effort to reach or exceed EPA estimates. I always end up behind the car in front of me that races from light to light and all I had to do is, granted it took some thought and effort, accelerate gradually for a half a block, coast for a quarter block and brake for a quarter block and sometimes I don't even have to brake, damn, that was easy.
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    edited November 2012
    As I'm sure you know, two lane driving isn't always the best for fuel economy. Also, vans have never been known for good mpg's. Older US highways weren't built under the same regulations as the Interstate system. Twists and turns, grades, slowing for traffic and slowing or stopping for towns affects mpg's. On my last 2-lane road trip I got my best mpg's traveling through Southern Minnesota and across Iowa where it's flat, straight and desolate.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,043
    The biggest factor is likely still how you drive - the old egg under the gas pedal idea. Sometimes you just have to deal with crowded commutes though and traffic can really hammer you.
  • Well maybe they have! I called Syncservices for the third time and gave them my whole list of problems and asked that they escalate it. I got a call from someone on the design team. According to her, there has been a problem with the iPhone 4S (maybe the 5 too) corrupting the MyTouch software - hence the bugs. Apparently they have released a new version of the software last Monday that is supposed to fix the problem. I am supposed to take the car back to the dealer tomorrow and have the sysytem flashed with the new software. I am keeping my fingers crossed, as this is the only real complaint I have about the car - I love it otherwise. The milage on mine fluctuates considerably. I am waiting for a long highway trip to really test that out.
  • The biggest factor is likely still how you drive - the old egg under the gas pedal idea. Sometimes you just have to deal with crowded commutes though and traffic can really hammer you.

    Agreed. Just because modern vehicles have the ability to go faster when you mash the accel pedal, doesn't mean everyone has to actually drive faster.

    If we looked at an old Ford similar in size, like a Bronco ii, it got horrible mileage by comparison, and did not have the capability of being as fast.

    If a person used the same amount of speed in the Escape that was available in the Bronco ii, then the Escape will obviously get better mileage.

    If the Escape user gives the car the same accelerator application, it will a) go faster than its predecessors and b) get unsatisfactory mileage.

    The downside to more powerful engines is that YES, one does have to baby the accelerator to get better mileage.

    On older automatic trans vehicles, you had to basically mash the accelerator to even start moving. Not so anymore, so it takes a gentler touch than many may be used to.

    The way I drove my 1978 F-150 is vastly different from how I drive my 2011 F-150. It is literally difficult to accelerate as slowly as my 78 Ford could at full throttle in a modern truck.
  • mbb21mbb21 Posts: 7
    Agree with the observation that the driver determines the vehicles' mgp by the way he/she drives. However, each vehicle has its own personality in a way. For instance, I also own an Infinity M35 which is quite fast and accelerates incredibly well once you smash down on the accelerator. I also own an Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD and compared to the M35, it is much easier to accelerate quickly on the Escape than on the M35.

    How so? Well, the pedal pressure that I have to apply to the M35 to get to a certain speed feels much harder than on the Escape. In other words and this might be totally subjective, I feel I have to press the accelerator pedal much harder in the M35 than on the Escape in order to reach the same level of acceleration.

    Based on my experience then I would have to say that Ford has made it much easier to accelerate on the Escape by setting a lower pedal pressure calibration on this car versus my M35. Consequently, given the spirited performance of this car, it is much easier to waste gas by accelerating faster than normal compared my other car.

    As said before, this is my observation based on the performance of the two cars I own. So for what its worth, it is easier to waste gas and mpg's on the Escape than on my M35.
  • I have a [non-permissible content removed] 2.0t 2x4 a lil over 1000 miles. average city mpg 19 using cheap Walmart 87 octane gas. I am also at sea level in Houston, and pretty much flat around here
    freeway 24mpg, I would say i am a hair aggressive, puts me where I thought I would be, im glad i didnt need the premium unleaded to get it. And yes I hit the turbo quite often... No reason to drive like a turtle to get those specs. If you do and are getting bad mpg, the easiest thing to check esp in the cooler weather is the PSI in your tires, make sure they match the door, you wont hurt anything buy adding 2 psi, your mpg will improve, i have never balded the center of my tires by doing this.
    The my touch works well for me, a hair sluggish, but it is a PC, and thats expected.
    Someone asked about the oil life, I didnt see an answer.. we have an oil life monitor, but I dont see where to check the life percentage.. im sure a light comes on when its close, but I would still like to monitor.
    Overall love the car MPG are close to what I expected, radio/mytouch was too
    i do not like the 19" tires, the ride is fine, but look up prices on new shoes, I am not looking forward to that :(
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,459
    My wife has an AWD Titanium with about 1K miles one it.
    I'm going to hold off on the mileage returns for a while, but since it has the 19's like yours, I went to TireRack and looked them up.
    They are rated for 60k miles, which is pretty good.
    We also have an '09 with 50k+ on it.
    The original Michelin's are rated for 65k, but I think they will be good for much more than that.
    Every 5k, I get 'The Works' done (oil change/tire rotation).
    I check tire pressures pretty often on all my vehicles.
  • Finally, the 2.0L SEL arrived and the dealer had it prepped and waiting for me yesterday. I noticed the mpg slowly dropped as the car was sitting there idling with the dealer giving me the run-through of the controls. I can see where it will take some time getting used to the dash when compared to my 2003 Explorer.

    I converted my iTunes library over to MP3 and loaded it all onto an SD card. The Entertainment Center indexed everything and allows choosing music by artist, song, genre, and so on which is nice. iPhone connected nicely and loaded my phone directory. Not so good with that is that it is sorting by first name, and does not load the contact photos.

    Now where to hardwire the radar detector? I saw a company mentioned elsewhere called BlendMount. Even though they claim to have a mirror mount for the 2013 Escape, looking at their gallery and looking at the mirror in the Escape, I don't thinks it is possible to attach their mount.

    If anyone know any easy access 12v accessory wires, lemme know!
  • Ok, I am cautiously saying "Eureka" on the MyFord Touch on my 2013 Escape. After all of the frustration and headaches, it looks like the new software flash update of the system has it working like I would have expected when I bought the car. It links up seamlessly with my iPhone, locates the Bluetooth easily, indexes my device, shows the complete title of my audiobook and either autoplays my title or plays instantly on voice command if the audio has been turned off. This had all been extremely buggy and hit or miss, or didn't work at all before. I am going to give it a few days before I wholeheartedly say the issues are fixed, but it is looking good right now. If this continues to work well, I will be a very satisfied customer!
  • I have had nothing but problems with my new escape. It has been back to the dealer with sync problems that they cannot seem to fix. The phone, radio heat and air go dead all the time. Have been talking for ford about the lemon law. I would not recommend this car.
  • clwalker3clwalker3 Posts: 7
    edited November 2012
    Check with Syncservices. I had issues with Sync driving me crazy. It was doing a lot of bizarre things A replacement of the sync system did not help. I had them escalate it on the syncservices support line and got a call from the design team. They said the newer iPhones were corrupting the sync software. They arranged a service call with my dealer. They just released a new software update a week ago that seems to have resolved all of my issues with sync (at least so far!). I have not had problems since the update was installed. It is now working like I expected when I bought the car.
  • I don't have the iPhone and have had the same exact issues as Hawk, maybe not the same frequency, but have had the radio cut out for no reason twice, had the heat/climate system shut off at a stop light for no reason, the clock on the radio is constantly changing times on me in the middle of the night while I'm sleeping. I am very disappointed in the MFT system, the car is great, but these issues really make me regret my decision!
  • I just installed 3.5.1. I don't know what has changed, although 3.2.2 seemed pretty stable to me.
  • Do you have to bring the vehicle in to have the new software update installed?
  • coldnfrosty

    How did you get the 3.5.1 ?
    I took delivery of my factory ordered 2.0 FWD last week and have 3.2.2 installed and I get no options on syncmyride to upgrade. I love my Escape so far, but would like to get rid of a couple of MFT glitches.
  • Looks like you just missed the cutoff/mandate by Ford to uograde all new inventory. Which means you might have to take it to the dealer and have them do it.
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