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Cadillac ATS Lease Questions

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  • That's answers my question
  • Thanks for the tip. I called today and scored a $1,000 private offer. I have a similar offer from Acura, so I told them I was considering both cars (which is true). That might have made the difference, but I think they're just ready to promote their cars.
  • Did you get just the private offer or are they offering you conquest with that?
  • Just the private offer. I was angling for conquest, but I'm not coming out of a lease.
  • Gotcha, because I was told they can't combine them.
  • Hi Car_Man:

    I'm torn between manual & automatic this time around, so I'm looking for info on both.

    Please provide the April numbers for Ally & US Bank on the following vehicle:

    2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0L Turbo RWD Performance w/Navigation 36mo/15k (manual & auto)

    With so many variables on this model, let me know if there is a trim/engine/term combo that has standout numbers.

    Thanks,

    Alex
  • ht613ht613 Posts: 1
    I'm also in NYC area, looking for the same car with the exactly same packages. So where did you get this $489 price?
  • Where are you in NYC?

    I got that from Gold Coast, but didn't like the path to that number, meaning the games
  • adiaz2331adiaz2331 Posts: 15
    So funny, I've been going back and forth, trying to get an order in before the 2013 order process is closed, I think at the end of this week. The dealer comes back to me today, the "approximate" numbers for the car I want, with an msrp of 45,965 (2.0T Premium RWD manual w/ Cold Weather and Sunroof), 36-month lease, 10k a year, for 580! That's insane. I qualify for conquest and I was going to put 1000 down. If he came in around 500, I would buy that, but 580, that's way off. I gave him some calculations, and told him I felt the payment should be around 460, and if he can't get close to that number, we have no deal. We'll see what he comes back with.
  • good luck pal
  • adiaz2331adiaz2331 Posts: 15
    Car_man,

    you please tell me the current money factor and residuals for a 2.0t premium lease for 36, 39 and 48 months. I want to make sure I'm getting accurate figures. Mileage of 10 to 15k a year. Sorry, it's kind of a broad request. Also what incentives are available? I thought there was a conquest bonus available for any non gm lessee, but I'm being told only the luxury conquest is available, so my kia lease doesn't apply. I also have an 08 cobalt owned in the household. Thanks for your help.
  • I have a maxima and am eligible for conquest
  • eddieg7408eddieg7408 Fort Wayne, IndianaPosts: 9
    edited April 2013
    Hello all:

    I am glad to find this forum! Many of you seemed to have found great deals on this car. I am very serious about getting one myself. :)

    Car_Man, If you would help me out by letting me know the residual on:
    2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T Base
    No Options, with the exception of manual transmission, polished aluminum wheels, and CUE 8" color information display.

    I would go with whatever length makes the payment lowest.

    I would like to have zero due at signing, but first months payment would be acceptable. I am currently leasing a Dodge Charger so I would hope to be elligible for the lease conquest offer. I also am a GM employee.

    I know the manual transmission will likely hurt the residual value.

    All this being said, what do you think a fair payment range should be? I did ask about an ATS, but they tried to sell me a much more loaded one for $411 month with about $3,000 due at signing. Sounds high compared to what I have heard here. The dealer here showed that they would pay my Charger lease off, and that it would not bring negative equity to the deal.
  • zja1zja1 Posts: 2
    Hi Car Man. Could you please give me the Money Factor and Residual for a 36 month lease for the base 2013 ATS with automatic? Thanks in advance!
  • I can tell you about my deal on Mar 31st.
    Premium, Cold weather, Sunroof, Alarm package,
    $2,000 at inception included first month tax title (new in florida is $500) and dealer fees and finance fee. Monthly is $480 tax included. Money Factor was .0125 . 15,000 miles per year. Included Conquest rebate. Miami , Florida.

    Two comments...You gotta get the LED's HID's (It's soooo much better looking!) Requires Premium package or possibly performance.
    Second comment...Gas mileage is not so good as of the first 800 miles. Actually, its quite horrible compared to the numbers. Traffic here is HORRIBLE, too. There are so few highways that let you go anywhere except to leave.

    Good luck, Really Great CUE experience . Got a free Cadillac Ipad, too!

    By the way way rented the 2.5 for two weeks and the gas mileage was significantly better..., by almost 5 mpg's in in the same locale, prior to buying the car.
  • kcoldskcolds Posts: 2
    I recieved two price quotes of $539 per month for a lease on this vehicle (39 mos/12K) and the only difference was the base prices ($42,075 and $46,890). Packages were the same, driver assist, sun roof, and cold weather. Shouldn't I take the difference in the base prices ($4,815) and divide that by the 39 month term ($123 per) to get a lower payment of $416 per month on the lower priced car? Help...am I missing something?
  • eddieg7408eddieg7408 Fort Wayne, IndianaPosts: 9
    I got my quote from the dealer!

    MSRP --> 36,765
    PREF --> 35,277
    EVA --> (1,000)
    Lease Conquest --> (1500)

    With first months payment + $175
    36 months @ 10,000MI / year = $357.81 w/ tax
    39 months @ 10,000MI / year = $354.34 w/ tax

    What do you all think? I am a GM employee, and am currently leasing a Dodge Charger (for the lease conquest). The dealer said I have to pay 7% tax on the EVA and Lease Conquest discounts they are giving ($175) at signing. I have to order the car, so I am waiting until the first of May. I hope the Lease Conquest offer is still available or I could get the $1,000 by calling in.

    This is a 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T RWD Standard
    w/ Manual Transmission ($1,180)
    w/ Polished Aluminum Wheels $800
    w/ Cadillac User Experience (CUE) and Surround Sound $1,350
  • adiaz2331adiaz2331 Posts: 15
    If you're looking for the difference, the crude way of doing it would be to take the % of the difference that you would actually be paying for. Let's say the residual on the car is 58%, then you would be responsible for 42% of that 4815, and then divide that number by the 39 months to see what the difference would generally be. As I stated, that's the crude way of doing it. I recently just signed for my car, which had an MSRP of 47,080, 39/12k year, for 530 a month. This is for a Premium 2.0T RWD 6-Speed with Crystal Red Tintcoat, Sunroof, Cold Weather, and All-Weather Cargo Mat. That's with first payment and plates down.
  • kcoldskcolds Posts: 2
    Ahhhh! makes sense, thanks
  • Does anyone have a money factor for April for a 2.0 Base ATS, possibly with CUE? I have the following offer on a white tricoat 2.0 Standard: $2,000 Drive-Off, Selling price $36,000 minus a $1000 private offer and $800 dealer cash, $312.53/monhth. For some reason, I can't get an Ally money factor out of the dealer, and there's also some vague references to government fees and tax, but I've been told that's included in the $2,000 which has not been broken down to my satisfaction. I might include $1,000 of the $2,000 in the lease, I guess another $30/month. I don't really want the fancy paint job, but the only other Standard 2.0's in this part of Northern California are that weird blue, silver, or black which I don't like. I would be interested in CUE for a little more than the price of the paint upgrade, but I'm not convinced it's worth the money.
  • snaabsnaab Posts: 68
    I think you can do better... here is what I got at the end of March. Not sure what the difference in residuals is between March and April though.

    Black on caramel
    2.0T AWD base with following options:
    CUE with surround sound
    Sunroof
    Heated seats
    All weather mats
    and of course the ipad

    MSRP $40,845.

    $307.00 with tax for 36/12 with $842 due at signing through Ally.
  • Yes, I remember reading your account. That's a really good deal. I believe you said you got the GM employee discount which I don't have. What was your negotiated selling price and money factor? Apparently the residual is still pretty good, about 64%, not sure if that's the same as in March. I think part of the problem here is the low supply of 2.0T base cars, especially with the options you describe.
  • snaabsnaab Posts: 68
    edited April 2013
    I was actually replying to eddieg7408's deal... he has GMS.

    Your deal sounds good wonderwarthog assuming that
    1. The car has the CUE option
    2. $2000 due at signing includes everything

    They should outline exactly how they got to the $2000 due at signing.

    I don't remember my final MSRP... will have to look at the papers. I do remember my residual being the same as yours.... 64%. Sounds like the rebates are still the same as they were in March ($800 from the factory).

    However, I would strongly recommend reducing your singing payment to as little as possible. Roll as much of it into the lease as possible, even if it means a higher monthly payment. Always good to do that for a number of reasons like, for example, if the car gets totaled, your turn it in early, etc.. In those cases you stand to lose all of the "down payment" vs the portion of it that you already paid for.

    Regarding you wondering if CUE is worth it I think it totally is. I was gonna skip out on it after reading the horrendous reviews on the system and to keep my payments low. However, I am now EXTREMELY glad I got it. I've had no issues at all with mine and find it to be a pretty good interface / system overall. From what I've read in the Cadillac forums mine has the major update Cadillac rolled out in February which fixes most of the issues reviewers had. Plus it comes with a better Bose system (10 speakers vs 7 speakers) which I thought was better sounding than the base system (but it's still nothing amazing...). And hey it comes with a free iPad which I'm about to dump on ebay (don't need it).
  • vipermxvipermx Posts: 3
    edited May 2013
    Car Man,

    Could please let me know what the residual and MF for May is on a ATS 3.6L AWD Premium? Terms are 36 Months @ 12K miles. Also, could you provide the May Lease incentives if you have them? I'm beginning my research on an lease when I return from deployment at the end of the month. Thank You...
  • eddieg7408eddieg7408 Fort Wayne, IndianaPosts: 9
    Snaab, Your offer is really encouraging! Thanks for replying. Looks like I will be unable to order a 2013. (dealership said the factories are building out and only 2014s can be ordered) But I did find one at another dealer configured with:

    Power sunroof
    Heated driver and front passenger seats
    6-speed manual transmission
    17 X 8 polished aluminum wheels
    Premium all-weather floor mats (dealer-installed)
    CUE (Cadillac User Experience) and Surround Sound

    for a total MSRP of $38,405.00

    Surely if I get anything similar to your offer, I can come out at 325$ / month or less for that with a little less down (first months + ~110 fee)

    You must have got quite a discount off MSRP. I was told a manual transmission did not change the residual but maybe $5 a month extra. If you get around to it, look up the price you paid out of the door, post back. That could be helpful in my negotiations!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi zja1. Ally's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a base 2013 Cadillac ATS with 15,000 miles per year are 1.25% and 60%.

    General Motors is currently providing an $800 cash incentive on leases of this car through Ally.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi wonderwarthog. Please see my previous post for the information that you're looking for. Thanks.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Certainly vipermx. Ally's May base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Cadillac ATS 3.6L AWD Premium with 12,000 miles per year are 1.25% and 61%.

    GM is currently providing an $800 cash incentive on leases of this car.

    Car_man
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  • vipermxvipermx Posts: 3
    Exactly what I needed--thank you car_man...
  • wonderwarthogwonderwarthog Posts: 50
    edited May 2013
    Here are the terms proposed to me for an ATS Performance with cold weather package (really cold here in the Bay Area!). MSRP: $45,235. Selling Price: $42,035. Adjusted Cap Cost: $38,335. APR=1.25%, Residual=61%. 36 month lease, 12,000 miles. Drive-off: $1734 (including a $1,000 private offer from GM). $363/month including tax and license. I have no idea what's included in the $1,734. I think they just made it up, but the terms are the best I've seen for a $45,235 ATS. What do you think?
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