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2013 Cadillac ATS

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
edited March 5 in Cadillac
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  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,266
    I went to a very large Caddy dealership in my neighborhood but they did not have any ATS in the showroom or on the lot. They had acres and acres of Escalades though.

    The ATS I saw in pictures and videos look nice but very pricey. At this price point one might as well get a BMW 3-series or an Audi A4. Nonetheless, we are in the market for an entry level luxury sedan so we will wait until they hit the showroom.
  • tdbmdtdbmd Posts: 20
    I drove a new ATS this last weekend. It was a top end version with the 3.6 motor and AWD. I will say that they handle great. More responsive than my CTS with the perfomance package and same motor. It also feels quite a bit quicker than my CTS, but given the weight difference, that would make sense. The ATS seems razor sharp in the handling dept. and the front seat room is not much different than the CTS. Rear seat is quite a bit smaller, however as is the trunk.
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    My experience exactly. With the exception that with the salesman in the back seat on a road just entering the twisties and an 85 degree sharp right right after a tree that I hit at 40 or so and the salesman just about crapped as he couldn't see it coming. This was their first ATS and we were the first to drive it. They had just gotten it in. I expect he had visions of it wrapped around a tree. I'm sure he didn't expect it as I'm 74 but still ride my Honda VTX 1800 way too fast. He recovered and took it well though.

    We have an 03 Toyota Avalon with KYB GR2 suspension and energy sway bar bushing upgrade with ceramic brakes. See posts in Avalon 04 and earlier foruim.

    Anyway, we tried out a last gen 2011 BMW 3, 13 Altima, CTS, Genesis, LaCrosse etc, and the only ones that could get my $$$ are the 12-13 Bimmer 328 or the ATS at this point. The Altima was just too loose and while efficient, doubt I could stand the revving of the CVT. Yuk. I wonder how resale of the ATS will be. Not bad, I would guess. And that 3.6 engine is sweet. Hard to believe it's American. I was soooo sick of hearing a truck when I drove a GM car.
  • tdbmdtdbmd Posts: 20
    I am anxious to try one of the 2.0 turbo motors as well. I have been very pleased with the 3.6 in my current CTS and in the ATS, it feels much stronger, probably due to less weight to haul around.
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 111
    Come on ATS owners. I'm anxious to here your impressions.
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    LEASED MY ATS 3 WEEEKS AGO
    PROBLEMS

    THE TOUCH PAD SYSTEM IS WAY TOO COMPLICATED AND DOES NOT WORK FREQUENTLY YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE ROAD TOO OFTEN PLS GIVE US SOME KNOBS BACK FOR HEAT AND RADIO

    TURBO LAG IS FREQUENT AND DISAPPOINTING

    MPG 14.5 YES YOU READ IT RIGHT ONLY 14.5 SO FAR AND DEALER IS TRYING TO TELL ME IT BECAUSE ITS NEW LOL PLEASE MY NEW CTS NEVER GOT LESS THAN 17

    RADIO VERY POOR RECEPTION IM IN CHGO SUBURBS NEVER EVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS BEFORE THIS CAR DEALER CANT SEEM TO FIX

    BACK TO TOUCH PAD I NEVER EAT IN MY CAR THAT BEING SAID FINGERPRINTS AND DUST ARE A CONSTANT PROBLEM AND MAKE THE WHOLE BLACK DASH A MESS I CLEAN IT DAILY AND IT DOES NOT CLEAN UP WELL. LOOKED NICE IST DAY CANT IMAGINE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN 36 MONTHS

    GM NEEDS TO GET ONTOP OF THESE PROBLEMS RIGHT AWAY I LIKE THE STYLING BUT GEEEZE THIS IS DISAPPOINTING SO FAR

    K.D.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,128
    Good morning kd1007,
    If you would like for us to follow up with your dealership at all, please don't hesitate to contact us via email at socialmedia@gm.com with more information (include your name and contact information, the last 8 digits of your VIN and mileage, and a summary of the situation so far).
    Sarah, GM Customer Service
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 111
    Sorry to learn of your problems, especially the turbo lag and the mpg. Is the turbo lag worse when accelerating from a stop or throughout the power range? As for mph, what type of driving do you generally do, city, hwy, mix? As for the smudges on the touch screen, I find that to be a problem with any touchscreen I use. It's the nature of the beast.

    Here's hoping you can get your problems worked out. Thanks for your input. Keep us informed.
  • ericzoomericzoom Posts: 213
    edited January 2013
    Just leased a 2013 ATS 2.0T with the Cue + Sound package.
    Car leans more toward performance than comfort, compared to my 11' SRX.
    Turbo pulls nicely with little lag, and handling is pretty good. Gradually learning to master the Cue system, using a combination of owners manual, free Cadillac supplied I-pad loaded with their App., and basically putzing around with the controls.
    The only thing I'm not too thrilled with is the run-flat tires that comes on this car. With regular tires when you get a nail or some other object that flattens the tire, you can usually plug it. With the run-flats, you have to replace them, at a higher price. I purchased the extended warranty on these tires for $10 a month, which at least covers these issues.
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    ATS PROBLEMS

    PICKING UP MY ATS TODAY DEALER HAS HAD IT 3 DAYS

    THEY SAY THEY HAVE REPLACED TOUCH SCREEN AND RADIO ANTENA ILL REPORT ON THESE FIXES LATER AFTER

    I WAS GIVEN A NEW CTS AS A LOANER 6 CYL VS 4 CYL TURBO THE CTS IS GETTING 18.1 MPG MY ATS TURBO IS GETTING 14 MPG

    DEALER SAYS THEY HAVE CHECKED EVERYTHING ON ENGINE SEEMS A-OK
    CANT EXPLAIN MY 14 MPG VS 18.1 ON NEW CTS

    LOL LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?

    K.D.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    The only thing I'm not too thrilled with is the run-flat tires that comes on this car. With regular tires when you get a nail or some other object that flattens the tire, you can usually plug it. With the run-flats, you have to replace them, at a higher price.

    I'm not sure who gave you that information, but it isn't true. RFT's can be repaired just like GFT's, although some shops refuse to do the repairs.

    At $10/month (assuming this amount is for all tires, not per each), that's not a bad deal at all if it gets you a new tire for every puncture. BMW insurance on RFT's is considerably more expensive.

    I'd like to hear your opinions on the car every few months if you have the time to post. I hope you enjoy your new ride.

    RFT's are an item that owners seem to either love or hate. There isn't much of a "middle of the road" opinion.
  • ericzoomericzoom Posts: 213
    edited February 2013
    Thanks.

    I will update every so often about my impressions of this car.

    At the moment the car will be going in for service on monday, due to
    a problem with the Cue linking up with my media devices. (I-Touch,I-pad)

    I definitely do prefer knobs and switches over the touch and finger
    controls on the dash.

    Seats could be a little better with more padding, and thigh support. Maybe
    it's a subjective thing, but i'm only about 5'10 142lbs., and I still feel it can
    use the bottom cushion added lenth. That's it for now.
  • I've driven Infiniti the last 6 years and just took my first drive in the ATS - WOW...my daughter had her mind set on a Mini Cooper until we drive this. The CUE system has her wanting the ATS now!
  • Ive been driving Infiniti for 6 years aswell, G35 now G37 and am really excited for the new Q50 but this car does entice me. I am planning on test driving the car either tomorrow or the new few days to check out CUE vs the new Infiniti system
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    GM NEEDS TO COME CLEAN MY IST TANK IM GETTING 13.5 MPG VS 20 MPG RATING

    WHAT GIVES ?

    LOOK AT WHAT I JUST READ....

    Consumer Reports pans turbo engines

    Knocks performance, fuel economy claims
    By Karl Henkel
    The Detroit News
    0 Comments

    Consumer Reports says small turbocharged engines don't live up to performance and fuel economy expectations, despite their higher price tags.

    In testing conducted by Consumer Reports engineers, turbocharged four-cylinders such as Ford Motor Co.'s 1.6-liter EcoBoost and General Motors Co.'s 1.4-liter turbo have marginal performance improvements and similar fuel economy compared to the six-cylinders they replace.

    This is of particular importance to consumers, because automakers in North America plan to offer 3 million gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles with turbocharged engines in 2013.

    That's up from 2.1 million in 2012, said Mike Omotoso, senior manager of global powertrain at forecaster LMC Automotive.

    "While these engines may look better on paper with impressive EPA numbers, in reality they are often slower and less fuel-efficient than larger four- and six-cylinder engines," said Jake Fisher, Consumer Reports' director of automotive testing.


    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130205/AUTO01/302050328#ixzz2K1xl63gn

    KEVIN
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    NO FIX FOR 13.5 MPG IM BETTING .....CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT

    NO FIX FOR BAD RADIO RECEPTION THEY REPLACED RADIO AND SUPPOSEDLY ANTENA LOTS OF INTERFERENCE DROPPED STAIONS IN CHICAGO MARKET WHERE MY OLD CTS WORKED GREAT

    TOUCH PAD SENSORS STILL A MESS GOT THE CAR BACK TODAY IN SHOP
    3 TIMES

    AND THE SENSORS FOR HEAT ARE STILL NOT RIGHT NOW A/C BLOWS ON PASSENGER SIDE WHILE HEAT BLOWS ON DRIVERS SIDE AND DEFROST DOESNT WORK AT ALL AMAZING

    GIVES US KNOBS BACK PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    DONT BUY OR LEASE THIS CAR YET IT HAS LOTS OF BUGS AND THEY CANT SEEM TO FIX THEM SO FAR

    I REALLY HOPED GM HAD A HIT WITH THE ATS BUT IT DOESNT SO FAR

    KEVIN DEMPSEY
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    So, how many chances does America get? Sounds like we're still in the 80's. Isn't it strang that foreign companies can come in here and build a quality product using local people, some even ex-union - even design, and our guys still can't get it right? What is the difference? Unions? (That should open up a can of worms, but there must be a reason.)
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23



    Cadillac to update CUE infotainment system for improved responsiveness
    2/6/2013 4:48AM by Alexis Santos

    (Click for Image)

    If unresponsiveness in Cadillac's CUE infotainment system has been a personal point of frustration, relief is on the way: an update to smooth things over is being worked on. CUE Design Manager Jeff Massimilla told Wired Magazine that the firm's received feedback regarding responsiveness, and they're working on "a modification that will be released sometime later this year." DONT BUY OR LEASE TILL ITS FIXED !

    With the upgrade, the infotainment system will be more responsive and the touchscreen and capacitive buttons will provide haptic feedback more quickly. The Cadillac XTS and ATS are set to score the update, but there's still no exact date penciled in for the patch's arrival.
    DONT BUY OR LEASE TILL ITS FIXED !

    Though vehicles could suck down the update with a built-in data connection, the software will need to be installed by a Cadillac dealership instead. Not a fan of having lost knobs and dials to a touchscreen in the first place?
    According to Cadillac VP of Marketing Don Butler, we'll see the likes of such analog controls complement the screen interface in the future. WHICH MEANS SOOOO MANY CUSTOMERS ARE COMPLAINING THEY ARE GOING TO PUT KNOBS FOR HEATING/AC AND RADIO BACK IN THE CAR IF THEY DONT NO BUYERS AND LOTS OF UNHAPPY NEW CUSTOMERS LIKE ME

    CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO FIX POOR RADIO RECEPTION BAD ANTENNA SYSTEM

    AND COME CLEAN ON THE TERRIBLE MPG PROBLEM ON TURBO ATS
    K.D.
  • I cannot speak to the repariability of the Run Flat tire... but I was once told that a major reason Cadillac elected to go with the runflats was due to that specific tires stiffer sidewall. The stiff sidewall allowed for increased performance and handling. And based on my experiances in the car so far it has worked! :)

    Take that for what it is worth, I just recall hearing it.
  • I have a 2.5L 4 cyl ATS. The shift knob has a + and - in "D"rive. There is no mention of this in the manual. Do you use the minus to shift to a lower gear if you perhaps need more power??

    Also, is anyone getting near 33 mpg? I might be getting 26. Or is there a breakin period?

    Thanks ;)
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    YOUR LUCKY I HAVE THE 4 TURBO SUPPOSED TO GET 21 /32

    IM GETTING 15.5 MPG AND 23 MPG HWY WHAT A JOKE IM BETTTING THERE WILL BE A CLASS ACTION SUIT ON THIS

    K.D.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,128
    carolyncaf,
    We would be happy to check into your shift lever inquiry with a technical department here. Please forward us the last 8 digits of your VIN and inquiry via email at socialmedia@gm.com.

    In regards to fuel economy, a typical engine will take 3 to 5 thousand miles to break in. Over this time period a gradual increase in fuel economy can be expected.

    Regards, and congratulations on your new ATS!
    Sarah, GM Customer Service
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    edited February 2013
    So, GM monitors forums on it's products? And actually responds? OK, now I'm impressed. Do you also monitor reviews etc? This is a great tool to get feedback. Of course it's only good if used to improve the product, which I assume a responsible MFR would do. Thanks for being here.

    Some owners are reporting lousy gas mileage with the turbo engine. I would hope GM is on this with intensity as something like this will kill you. GM does not need to backslide. I take 'gradual' also implies minimal. If so, this will not pacify owners. Stay on it and come up with a solution if this is typical. If it's random, there is a lesson to be learned here. Work one on one with those owners. An owner with a resolved problem is something paid advertising can't do.

    BTW, I drove an ATS with the 3.6 and I was impressed. That is saying something as the last GM - OR American product I bought was in the early 80's. We switched to Japanese cars and now own 2 BMW's - a Z3 and a newer 5 Series, so I have a tough standard live up to. Unfortunately the ATS is a but too small for us as we winter in the southwest and the trunk opening is just too small for what we haul, but hopefully GM now has the right mentality and formula. I hope that includes customer service. I anticipate next gen products if this formula is used. This is the first one to trip my trigger in many decades, but from time to time, I check back in. This time there was a pleasant surprise.

    I do have an ATS high on my list for a second vehicle and fun car in a few years. Reliability and customer service - resolving problems as opposed to pacification over the next few years will determine if it stays on the list. The same applies to the BMW. Whem problems begin, it will be going down the road and I will not return. There are too many other options out there. I hope you will be one of them.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,128
    55396,
    Glad that we were able to make a positive impression on you. As social media agents, we do take down information when a thread on a vehicle issue grows and forward it for further review by other GM entities. We also work with people individually to try to get them set up with a dealership to get concerns checked into.
    Take care, and we'll see you around the forum,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • fearlessflyfearlessfly Posts: 15
    edited March 2013
    Can any current ATS owners address how their cars are performing and have you had any reliability issues. How do you think the ATS compares with the BMW 3 series and the Mercedes C-series? Thanks for your help!
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    It's not the unions. It's engineering and design. First, GM has not designed fuel efficient and reliable overhead cam engines that can compete with the Asian automakers. Also, with the possible exception of OnStar, their technology in the car is woefully unreliable.
  • kd1007kd1007 Posts: 23
    I HAVE HAD MY ATS TURBO FOR 6 WEEKS

    I LOVE THE STYLE AND RIDE !

    PROBLEMS MANY!

    MPG GEEEZEEEE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO EPA RATING

    CITY 21 IM GETTING 16

    HWY 31 IM GETTING 25

    I DID NOT GET THE CUE SYSTEM BECAUSE I KNEW THE SYSTEM HAD LOTS OF PROBLEMS EVEN THE STRIPPED DOWN TOUCH SCREEN I HAVE SUCKS

    THE STERING WHEEL IS A MESS WITH SO MANY OPTIONS

    THE RADIO IS POOR QUALITY I CANT GET RECEPTION IN MANY AREAS THAT MY OTHER CARS GET CLEAR RECEPTION THEY REPLACED RADIO AND ANTENNA AND STILL HAVE STATION STATIC ALL OVER TOWN CHICAGO SUBURBS NOT BOONIES

    PS YOU CAN NO LONGER LEAVE YOUR CELL PHONE IN CAR CIGARETTE LIGHTER TO CHARGE

    THE CHARGER GOES OFF AS SOON AS YOU TURN OFF ENGINE AND OPEN THE DOOR SO MY CELL PHONE IS DEAD IN AM

    DELCO SAYS THEY DID THAT TO CONSERVE BATTERY LOL THUS THEY MUST HAVE CHEAP BATTERIES IN CAR MY CTS DOES NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    IF GM IS LISTENING TO US AND IM NOT SURE THEY ARE SINCE I KEEP GETTING CALLS FROM OVERSEAS INDIA TO TRY AND APPEASE ME LOL

    THIS CAR MIGHT BE THE RIGHT CAR TO BUY NEXT YEAR OR IN TWO YEARS BUT NOT NOW. COME TO THINK OF IT I SUSPECT THEY CANT FIX MPG TOO MAJOR BUT THEY COULD FIX THE OTHER PROBLEMS
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    Of course that's great, but it's what happens after you pass it on that counts.
  • ericzoomericzoom Posts: 213
    I like the handling and performance of the car, but the dash and Cue is an
    ergonomic nightmare.
    Thankfully i only lease it (extremely cheaply), 3 yrs. and it goes back.
  • ericzoomericzoom Posts: 213
    Just received a large hard covered book Fed-exed from Cadillac illustrating the history of the company. It came in like a fancy decorated black folder, which held the book. I honestly thought it was another I-Pad, because of the size and weight of it. Very unexpected.
    Has anyone else received this book from Cadillac?
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