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2014 Rondo (Carens)

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  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    I drove the 2014 Rondo EX yesterday in the 5-seater version (the only one they had available) and my wife and I took it out for a drive on the 401 (interstate type highway), and noted (maybe not precise), but at 90 kmph = 2000 rpm, 100 = 2200, 110 = 2500, 120 = 2700. Forget what it says on paper, if you didn't know what was under the hood you wouldn't have guessed it was a 2.0L. It has lots of power for accelerating from the entry ramp and from going from say 90 - 120 kmph without any problem or hesitation. It would drop a gear quick if necessary to do this, but the engine noise was subdued (at least compared to my 2.0L Soul engine). It was quiet, at idle with no radio on and conditions around you very quiet you can just barely hear the engine ticking over. I would not say the ride over bumps was "cushy" so you will feel them but not harsh.

    Conclusion: In my particular case as I used to own a '08 Rondo EX 2.4L, I find this engine more than adequate (easily matches the 2.4L) for my particular use and in fact if I was to purchase a Rondo again, the model I drove would be the configuration I would purchase (just not the colour). It has a lot more features than my old EX, like folding outside mirrors, leather seating, push-button start (first time I've driven a car with that feature), auto climate control, rear centre armrest, sliding rear seats that partially recline. Things were a little tight on this vehicle as it only had 54 km on it when I took it out. If you are interested in this type of vehicle, before you pass judgement due to the engine size, drive it first.

    I took a lot of photos going over the vehicle in extreme detail (it has some neat stuff) and will start posting them on this thread as soon as can get them sorted out and organized.
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    Conwelpic, your posts are always informative. Looking forward to the photos.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    edited April 2013
    there is many photos here's a few to start off. I also forgot to mention that I noticed the front seats were very nicely bolstered too. (right click and select view picture to see all of it, as they are chopped off in the this initial view)

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    something that is not in the current model, the 2nd row seats slide and partially recline. Also there is a centre armrest with cupholders.
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  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    Really nice looking seats! But the centre row in our 2007 and 2011 Rondos slide and recline....
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    are they both 7-seater models, they would have to so you could get in the rear seats? This one I drove was a 5-seater and they did not have that feature before (my '08 model certainly didn't).
  • I bought a (4-cyl) 2012 Rondo EX Premium about 6 months ago. At 17K it seems like a lot of car for the money. The major attraction for me is 7 seats in a wagon/MPV rather than minivan or SUV. The Orlando is the only other 7-seater MPV offered in Canada, but was inferior IMO.

    My pet peeves with the 2012 Rondo are:
    - no manual option
    - overly tall, especially with rack
    - turning radius only slightly smaller than the Queen Mary
    - atrocious fuel consumption, highway or city. 50% above NRCan ratings on a good day.

    The 2014 would seem to be an improvement on all fronts:
    - manual option
    - shorter
    - GDI + 6 speed should offer lower fuel consumption

    Unfortunately, not necessarily:
    - no manual option with 7 seats!
    - only shortened by 1 inch, was hoping for a couple more.
    - top gear ratio is not really improved, so the potential fuel consumption decline is somewhat muted. Main savings will come from 2L DI engine

    On the downside with the 2014, they've added a lot of features I don't care for, and with it comes a heftier price tag. Not that I would be buying anyway, since I tend to keep my cars for 15 years.
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    I'm intrigued that anyone bought this car in the 5-seat configuration. To me, the Rondo is a bit of an odd vehicle that makes compromises for the sake of flexibility, with the chief benefit of allowing 7 seats. If you only need 5 seats, there are plenty of competing vehicles that don't require those compromises - better driving, better looking, more fuel efficient etc. tailored to meet those needs.

    So I'm curious to know from 5-seat Rondo owners: what attracted you to the Rondo that wasn't met by another vehicle?
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    I owned a 2.4L '08 Rondo EX 5-seater for four years. One of the reasons I purchased the Rondo was the fact it had a 5-seater version, I had no need for the extra seats, much prefer the extra underfloor storage instead. At the time I looked at the Mazda 5, also considered some of the smaller SUV's like the Honda CR-V, RAV4, Escape which all came in 5-seater models, but I had no need for AWD, but the with some of the features that came standard on the Rondo there would have been a vast cost difference which I couldn't justify. I consider the Rondo a wagon, we also have a large dog and needed good room for that. The major need for this type of vehicle was the fact it was easy to get in and out (don't like dropping down into a vehicle or having to climb out) and it definitely had to be a hatchback for its versatility.

    No vehicle is perfect, but you have to take the overall package into consideration. I like the driving of the Rondo and also liked the dash layout much better than the Mazda 5, also did not like the rear sliding door.

    Direct competition is obviously the Mazda 5 and Orlando but also any small FWD SUV too.
    The new LX model is more like the old EX model.

    I found the fuel economy on my Rondo very good and had no complaints in that regard, turning radius wasn't bad either.

    However, I did trade the Rondo for a 2012 Soul 4u as I was intrigued with all the features of that model (liked it when it first came out but obviously is was not available at the time I made my Rondo purchase). The Rondo was my first KIA product (was a bit nervous at the time due to past reputations) but it was unfounded and I found the Rondo very reliable and did not have a single mechanical problem, had four warranty claims which were all taken care of without any hassle or inconvenience. So I had no hesitation in purchasing another KIA product, which I did and got good value on the Rondo in trade.

    My dealer has been great and get all my service maintenance done there.

    The 2014 Rondo is the same height as my Soul, if you want anything lower then there is the Forte 5. The previous vehicle I had to the Rondo was a Oldsmobile Cutless Sierra which was 10" lower and 10" longer than the Rondo, but found the Rondo far more stable in strong winds than the Olds.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    one of the new colours for the 2014 Rondo - Newport Blue

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  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    this new design is paying off big-time with good sales, here is June sales and how it stacks up against its immediate competitors:

    Rondo - 945 units
    Mazda 5 - 233
    Chev Orlando - 181
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    I test-drove a 2014 EX a few days ago. I was disappointed with it. It is noticeably smaller inside, and the 2nd row seat is so low it made me feel as if I was sitting in a Corolla. The 4 cyl sounds coarse and is surprisingly rough, though I know a 4 cyl won't be as smooth as our V6. The steering weights up oddly as speed increases, and the rough-road ride is kind of like a hobby horse, back and forth pitching. It's more of a larger Forte wagon, nothing like a 2007-2013 Rondo and that's too bad. I do hope it sells well, but it won't be to us.
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  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    I have always liked some of the same attributes you do on a Rondo. For me tho, I wish it had AWD and diesel option. That would be the cure for way better FE, provide the extra urge that AWD saps, and make it capable of towing a small travel trlr with a shower. These are feats that are well out of the new Rondo's element. Unfortunately, cuz having not driven one yet, I did spend some showrm time in one, and I was most impressed with two things right off...its looks, and the seats. The seats are a vast improvement over the pre 14's. In terms of support and comfort up front. I never sat in the rear yet. I also love the driving positions and the ease of ingress/egress. It is perfect in those ways.

    One problem I have with Kia is their Ford type marketing of a century past...any colour you want as long as it's black, with its interiors :(
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