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2013 Ford Escape Gas Mileage

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  • pdawg1pdawg1 Posts: 22
    I just filled our tank with 11.0 gallons. We had less than 40 miles to empty and the actual mileage on that tank was 22.8. With a 15 gallon tank that would have meant we had 4 gallons left and miles to empty should have been around 91. So, there is an issue with tank size or the computer or both. The low fuel light came on so I believe we had maybe 2 gallons left or a 13 gallon tank.
    I work at a Ford dealership and will be talking to my service manager and possibly the service rep on this issue...........
  • automelon48automelon48 Posts: 102
    Have a look at post #262.
    Your distance to empty is based on previous 500 miles, not just your current tank. This may help explain the difference.
  • pdawg1pdawg1 Posts: 22
    Sorry, calculations are not correct. If my Escape had 2 gallons in the tank and we put in 11, that would be a 13 gallon tank, which is what a lot of people are saying.............but it is still not 15!
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    Yup, that 15g tank is more like a 13g "useable" tank, there's nothing Ford can do for you. You can never use the entire 15gal, there will always be air in the tank because of the automatic fuel shut off on the gas pump. If you are able to keep getting gas into the tank after the fuel shut off engages you run the risk of ruining the emissions control system. They are just going to tell you everything is normal, and unfortunately in this case, it is.
  • automelon48automelon48 Posts: 102
    Steve
    I agree that all the little things add up. I will take 50 lbs of "work stuff" out of my vehicle when it's not needed. I don't expect to save a lot of fuel by doing so, I just think it's a waste to move around extra weight for no reason.

    My main point above, is that it is stated that a heavier driver will increase fuel consumption by 41% in the city!!!! Where does that data come from?
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  • donl1donl1 Posts: 109
    I never had a vehicle in 40+ years of ownership where I complained the gas tank was too big. And that includes pickups that had 2 tanks. ;)
  • pkmoorpkmoor Posts: 2
    Have spent some time reading these posts and have never seen so many complaints about expected vs true MPG. In CITY driving, that is.

    We all agree that there's little or nothing wrong when taking this baby, especially the 2.0 AWD Ecoboost, out of the city. But OMG, if you're a city driver like I am (Washington, DC), even if you are not trying to be the fastest when taking off - I have become extremely careful-, you're in for a surprise: I get 13.5 MPG, run out of gas after 180-200 miles. I might as well get a parking spot where I fill up!

    I've driven just about 5500 miles, and am thoroughly disappointed. I truly shouldn't have to scavenger for 100% gas, switch to 91/93, wonder why Ford decided to engage the All Wheel Drive at all take offs from stop, and the many other reasons folks try to explain away the fact that Ford promised good city mileage and can't deliver.

    And please, if you are a 60/40 or 70/30 driver, we KNOW by now that you get 22.24 MPG. That's not what everyone is complaining about. So stop telling us why you love Ford so much. So you like their logo? Good for you. But it has nothing to do with the problem.

    Anyway, my Ford is at the dealership being tested, but I'm sure it's going to be blamed on the user. That's what they do until the EPA gets on this, and they have to eat crow.

    Anyone want to buy an almost new Escape? Got a great deal for ya.
  • dizneydizney Posts: 19
    edited March 2013
    Glad I didnt buy the 2.0 ! Got 35.2 mpg just yesterday on my 1.6 !!!!
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,798
    edited March 2013
    "...Anyway, my Ford is at the dealership being tested, but I'm sure it's going to be blamed on the user. That's what they do until the EPA gets on this, and they have to eat crow.

    Anyone want to buy an almost new Escape? Got a great deal for ya. "

    If you do unload the '13, look up a 2010-2012 Escape Hybrid. I was very disappointed when they did not continue the hybrid for 2013. It gets absolutely great city mileage for an SUV.

    On a side note, I never really understood why they engage the AWD from a cold stop. My 2008 AWD FEH does it as well. Interesting to see they carried on that design "feature".
  • pkmoorpkmoor Posts: 2
    Dear Craig, I have a 2.0 Titanium and drive mostly in town. Yes, I do take it out, and then the MPG is fine, not great, but fine. We are not complaining about that.

    However, if Ford says that we should get "Up to 22 cty/30 hwy mpg", and we get 13.5 cty, then there's something WRONG with that. I challenge the EPA to actually get 22 cty. Even with 100% gas, which is unavailable in most large cities.

    That is what we are talking about. Stay with the point we are trying to make, and don't confuse it with your Ford love affair.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,798
    "... However, if Ford says that we should get "Up to 22 cty/30 hwy mpg", and we get 13.5 cty, then there's something WRONG with that. I challenge the EPA to actually get 22 cty. Even with 100% gas, which is unavailable in most large cities. ..."

    He said he is getting 21 in town, and described some of the techniques he uses to achieve that.

    The differences in reports by various owners makes me wonder if the gas blend is vastly different in the various places.
  • wistrodwistrod Posts: 14
    edited March 2013
    You state, "We all agree that there's little or nothing wrong when taking this baby, especially the 2.0 AWD Ecoboost, out of the city." Well, I don't agree. Mine now has 4,500 miles on it, and we took a drive this past weekend. We did 260 miles on flat, Illinois interstate. I set the cruise at 65, and we rolled across the flat expanse of Illinois highway. My mpg (based on refueling, not the display) was 22.7 mpg for these 260 miles. Ford's specs indicate that the 2.0 4WD model gets 28 mpg highway. My experience puts me more than 5 mpg under the mark. Not sure how much purer highway driving you could get than a flat 260 mile stretch of highway with a constant speed of 65. Based on the miles I drive per year, and current gasoline prices, this 5 mpg shortfall costs me about $350 per year -- in my eyes, I was flat out lied to and didn't get what I paid for!
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    City driving can be vastly different, probably more so than the gas blends. Just for the hell of it I decided to count how many traffic lights I drive through on my 2.5mi drive to work in the city. TWENTY TWO!!! I would say don't use City MPGs to compare, period. Just use the Hwy MPGs, that would be a much better comparison, unless you are driving in the mountains it's pretty much all the same. But someone in the city could have 22 lights to get through in 2.5mi and someone else could have 10 lights in 5 miles, just to difficult to compare.
  • pdawg1pdawg1 Posts: 22
    I just had my 2.0 4WD in for the miles to empty issue and gas tank size. There is a TSB out on this issue which requires the computer to be totally reset. When I got it back, my miles to empty full went from 280 to 390. Also my display mpg shot up from 22.0 to over 25 after 40 miles city/highway, so I am now doing a manual check of mpg and if it is higher, I would have all you owners go in and have this TSB performed. Will post the mpg after a few more days of driving.............
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,798
    OK, I'm not sure why you posted this to me. I don't doubt that some people get good mileage.

    For the record, the photo indicated 35.2 MPG, per the dash.
  • I got my new Ford Escape 2.0T 4WD 2 weeks back. I drove almost 180 miles on it while getting it. So for the first 240 miles or so, my mpg was being shown around 17.8. Now around 385 miles, it is showing 17.1 mpg. Most of my driving is around city with 4-5 lights in for about every 2 miles. And point to note is that for every 2 miles I drive, my drive to empty drops by 10-12 miles :(

    So definitely bug in the system you are saying? I would assume so since I had to fill up at 290 miles and filled around 12.6 gallons. So per calculation 290/12.6, would be approx 23 mpg.

    " There is a TSB out on this issue which requires the computer to be totally reset"
    Where can I find more info about this TSB?
  • pdawg1pdawg1 Posts: 22
    Call your local Ford dealer and say you know of a a TSB on 2013 Escape's with a miles to empty issue, it requires no parts but a tech that can do the TSB and reset the system. My miles to empty is more in line with a 15 gallon tank and my display mpg is over 25 average city/highway. Will report when I complete a manual check of mpg later...........
  • automelon48automelon48 Posts: 102
    Your DTE or Distance To Empty is based on your last 500 miles of driving, so if your vehicle is new, I would not pay much attention to that display. Yes, the displays do show at DTE that is very conservative, but you may find that it improves after you have driven normally for 500 + miles.
  • pdawg1pdawg1 Posts: 22
    Yes it is and I just did a manual mpg check and overall is up to 24.4 which is the EPA stated rating. I do not know if reprogramming affected the fuel consumption but told my service manager that I will keep track of mpg and if it goes back to 22 or less, he will then start doing tests.
  • ghanashyamlghanashyaml Posts: 9
    edited March 2013
    Thanks guys. Mine is obviously before 12/04/2012. Should I wait till miles reach around 1000 or just go to a local dealer now? I purchased it around 200 miles from my place.
  • johnnyumajohnnyuma Posts: 54
    Thanks for the quick response. In reading the TSB I didn't see any reason to conclude that actual mileage would improve. It looked like a software change only. But I didn't know there was a TSB until I read your post. So I'm interested in your experience. Please keep us informed. BTW I agree with your manual MPG method.
  • johnnyumajohnnyuma Posts: 54
    I don't see any reason for a quick trip to the dealer to correct an accuracy problem with the DTE reading. If pdawg reports back that he believes there really is a performance improvement in MPGs with the change then you might want to check it out. Unless I hear more about MPG improvement because of this TSB (on this website or a couple of others I follow) I'm gonna sit tight.
  • We have paid for seeing that information, so we should be seeing correct information. If there is the software bug, in my opinion, we should get that corrected, so we do not keep getting distracted by false information. I think I will planning to take a copy of that TSB (full form?) and visit a dealer. What say?
  • johnnyumajohnnyuma Posts: 54
    Hey you asked for an opinion and I gave you mine. If the DTE indicator inaccuracy bothers you that much go in and get it fixed. IMO it's not that big of a deal.

    If I find out the TSB relates to an actual MPG issue then I'll do something about it.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    On the subject of premium fuel...

    Now the question is whether you'll take a mpg hit with this engine going for the more power option. They seem to be competing goals.

    Actually, if the knock sensor is optimized for premium, you'll get better MPG on premium (unless you're driving hard enough to extract that extra power) as running a richer mixture is part of how they compensate for the lower octane of regular.
  • Yes, and I appreciate it. Thanks!
  • johnnyumajohnnyuma Posts: 54
    Your welcome.
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