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2013 Fusion Hybrid

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  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 193
    Nate,

    Since I was one of the first to have an opportunity to buy the FFH in So. Cal, I didn't haggle with my dealer on price. He gave me $500 off the MSRP and I paid $33,365. This came with the Luxury & Tech packages, Nav, Moonroof, Reverse Sensing System, Luxury Wheels and White Platinum paint. I would not give any of these items up, and I've never had a moment where I had wished I had any of the Driver Assist options. Since I plan on having this car for a long time, I did get the extended warrantee.
    The only item which I was disappointed with before buying my Fusion was its lack of a spare tire. This may sound scary to some, but you get a tire sealing compressor (Temporary Mobility Kit) that fixes and inflates your flat tire. Ford recommends traveling no more than 30 miles with this. The fact that Ford provides for free 24 hour roadside assistance makes the issue less bothersome. If the Hybrid had a spare, the carry thru space to the folded back seats probably wouldn't have worked, or the gas tank or something else would need to be smaller, which would be weekly irritations. I think Ford made the correct compromise.
    I really like the larger center console. My right arm rests very comfortably on it. Ford did a great job with the ergonomics. There hasn't been one time that I felt something should be placed differently. The first few times I closed the glove compartment, which has a very useful shelf in it, the right side latch didn't engage. I found this happened since I was pushing on the far left side. By pushing anywhere on the right 75% of the door, it latches every time.
    Knowing the fuel filler door opens by pushing on it is useful knowledge for new owners. The capless fuel system works perfectly. I have found that my windows fog up much more than my previous larger vehicles, but the Fusion's defrost system quickly takes care of it. I've really grown to like the MyFord Touch and Sync, so much so that I'm a little reluctant to get the update that is available this month. I like it the way it is, but I'm a person that resists change.
    The way the Fusion lights up, inside and out, when you unlock it or open a door, is one of my favorite features. Another is that when I turn the key on, I not spewing exhaust out into my garage. Every morning, I quietly back out and I'm on my way. Getting free mileage every time I brake correctly is also a nice feeling. I didn't have to change my habits since the way I have always braked just works out to be the most efficient way for a hybrid.
    One issue that has surfaced is that by choosing the Luxury 18" wheels, the Goodyear tires, while giving you better handling, appear to give you MPG figures about 2 less than the 17" with low rolling resistance Michelins. For me, the looks of the luxury wheels are worth the loss of mpg. My daily commutes give me 38-43 mpg with most of the miles spent at 65-70 mph. When the car was warm on an afternoon test of 10 miles of city driving at 25-45 mph, I got over 50 mpg. Cold weather and 70+mph speeds are hard on MPG
    You can probably tell I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I like to hear people ask "That's a Ford?".
  • So you didn't choose the driver assist package? If that's the case, did your rear-view mirrors come with the smaller "bubble" mirror on the corners? I was told that if you don't get the BLIS the mirrors, they come this way. I could definitely live without that package too (I've been driving without it for over 30 years now) but I'm not sure I could get used to the smaller bubble mirrors attached. Did you? Do they work well and are they useful?
  • drdad314drdad314 Posts: 7
    edited December 2012
    Moviefan,

    I paid about $32,500 for mine. Has everything but the semi-autonomous driving features. I wouldn't worry about the battery space in the trunk. I can fit my son's hockey bag and two sticks in there. So far my only gripe is that the telescope/tilt lever is difficult to find. It's a nice car and the ride is smooth and quiet. The little bubble mirrors are actually quite helpful.
  • If I can talk myself out of the Drivers assist package, that's almost another thousand I could save. My sales tax here is 9.5%. Crazy. So I'll be happy if I can get this out the door for $35k.
  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 193
    I don't have any of the driver assist options (BLIS, adaptive cruise, etc). The bubble on the side mirrors allows you to have no blind spots while driving. I set my mirrors so that when the headlight of a car that is passing me disappears from my center rear view mirror, it is visible in one of the side mirrors, where the vehicle stays in sight until a split second before it appears in my peripheral vision. That split second is covered by the bubble mirror, which I have found very easy to get used to. Personally, I would prefer that the bubbles be in the lower outer corners instead of the upper corners, but they work good the way they are.
    Where the BLIS would come in handy is when it is raining. The clarity of your view out the rear and side windows, and the side mirrors (even though they are heated) is significantly reduced when they are covered by water drops.
    By not going with the driver assist options, you can get the extended warrantee, which I feel is worth the extra cost for the peace of mind it gives you. You're going to love this car, and you're really going to enjoy the driving experience with the hybrid. I walked up to mine in a parking lot today and the early morning sun made the White Platinum shine like a jewel. Even though it needed to be washed, you coudln't tell. No other vehicle combines all the factors that make you feel good about your car like the FFH does.
  • You paint a really nice picture of what it's like to own a 2013 Fusion Hybrid. Thanks for your input and I'm sure we'll be talking in this forum quite a bit! How much (and how long) was your extended warranty if you don't mind me asking?
  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 193
    Everything is covered for 5 years/70,000 miles with roadside assistance included. I'm paying $1,600 for this over the life of the loan. I wasn't going to get this but the Ford finance guy at my dealer was really nice. Since virtually everything on the 2013 Fusion is new, it makes since to me now to have the peace of mind for the next five years.
    That being said, I haven't had one issue yet. All signs are that Ford has done everything right. Checking out the 2013 Altima consumer reviews makes my FFH look like a Rolls Royce. One of the latest had their transmision fail after four months (yet they still give it 4 out of 5 stars!). If I decided to go with the non-hybrid 2.0 SE with the same options, I would have spent $2,100 less. I think it is the best $2,100 I've ever spent.
  • I wanted to follow up with an mpg report. Sadly, the last tank was only 39 mpg, and this tank looks like it will come in around 38 mpg. The last two tanks have been 100% city driving, where I am defining city driving as stoplight to stoplight traffic with maximum speed of about 35 mph.

    The main problem I see is that the gas engine is coming on more than expected, especially during low-speed acceleration. And when it comes on, it seems to rev pretty high, completely taking over for the electric motor even if the battery is almost fully charged. If traffic is really heavy, and I am creeping along in electric drive mode, that is an obvious mpg booster. I'm babying the car to the point where a big gap is opening up between myself and the guy in front of me, so I know it's not my (nonexistent) lead foot. If I keep up with traffic after the light turns green, I can watch the mpg drop precipitously.

    So it sounds like Ford has some work to do. I'm not sure if they can reprogram the engine loading-throttle response code a bit and see if a better balance of gas and electric can be obtained. If the gas engine were to come on a bit less aggressive, it might boost mileage. I'm eagerly awaiting the EPA results and Ford response.
  • How many miles have you put on the car already? I would give it until at least 5000. Remember, there's that break-in period we talked about...

    By the way, approx. how many miles are you getting to the tankful?
  • Actually I emailed Ford about a "break-in" period and they said the time frame is about 3000 to get the good mpg. If you're over that or over 5000 say, then there may be some room for concern. Check out this thread for FFH owners:

    http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/index.php?/topic/5629-poor-mpg-should-i-take-it- -in/
  • Moviefan,

    I only have about 1000 miles. However, my first tank was 45 mpg, so I've seen a big drop in the last two tanks. Perhaps the break-in period contains programming that runs the gas engine more than is normally required? I'm a bit skeptical that break-in will suddenly boost the mpg by that much. I just think that in certain kinds of city driving (i.e. light-to-light whipsaw traffic), the 47 mpg may be impossible to obtain, unless the gas engine response is muted.
  • moviefanmoviefan Posts: 21
    edited December 2012
    Yeah, not sure. They say these hybrid cars are suppose to adapt to your driving habits too. Keep us posted on your mpg's on the upcoming tankfuls...
  • gened1gened1 Posts: 256
    edited December 2012
    Hi, In my '12 Toyota Camry Hybrid I can drive at 40-45 miles an hour on a level surface in EV mode for a mile or so. Can the FFH be driven up to 62 miles and hour in EV mode as Ford claims and how far can it be driven like that if so? Previous to owning my first hybrid I didn't think driving in EV was possible past say 25mph or so.
  • flbntzflbntz Posts: 43
    Just picked up my 2013 Ford Fusion S last night, and purchased 6 year/48,000 mile warrantee for $779. I feel very good about it, although the car feels very well made.
  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 193
    On a level freeway, my FFH will go a little over a mile on EV mode at 62 mph. 63 mph kicks in the ICE, unless I'm going slightly downhill, where I've seen a few seconds at 64 mph on EV.
    DrDad: I think the current cold weather is having a significant effect on MPG. Even if the battery is fully charged, the ICE will run just to keep the whole system warm. I decided this morning not to constantly monitor it for a while. Even if I don't baby it, I'm still getting more than twice the MPG of my previous car, so I'm going to just enjoy the Fusion driving experience and drive as I did before, usually as the leader of the pack. I was starting to irritate my wife a little anyway. She prefers getting places in close to the shortest amount of time. It's not like I can't afford to buy an additional gallon or two of gas a week.
  • I absolutely agree with you. I spent some quality time in traffic tonight and concluded that while i'm only getting about 38 mpg, I am not burning one drop of gas while creeping along at 2 mph, and it's almost double of what I was previously getting. Add in the fact the FFH is a fantastic driving car with great looking sheet metal and great features for under $35k, I really shouldn't be complaining.
  • drdad314drdad314 Posts: 7
    edited December 2012
    Gened1,

    Yes. I have gotten it up to about 65 mph in EV mode on a long downhill and it will hold 60 mph on a level road just like b25nut said.
  • src6src6 Posts: 1
    If you are a CostCo member, try out their auto-buyers program. I was able to get a quote for my FFH that was about $1500 lower than any other dealer would offer. In fact, most of them were totally unwilling to move off of sticker, other than Ford's $500 incentive, so having the CostCo quote might even give you some leverage when haggling with other dealers.
  • This past week, I was only getting about 37 mpg on my usual stop-start heavy traffic commute of 15 miles. Today, I made a stop at friend's house which took me out if traffic and on a 45 mile trip. When I pulled in the garage, the trip mpg said 44, which is in the ballpark of the EPA rating. I would consider this city driving since it was two lane roads and the top speed was 55, but mostly around 30-45. Even more evidence of a significant penalty for heavy traffic conditions, no doubt due to the number of acceleration cycles.
  • I checked into the Costco thing. I don't remember how much I would ultimately save off sticker. I don't belong and didn't feel like signing up just to buy a car.

    But I've been asking various dealers in my area to give me their best offer and the best one I got was at invoice (plus the $500 rebate, so really $500 under invoice, I guess). Not too bad, right?
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