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Honda Accord CVT Problems

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  • ar39ar39 Posts: 61
    There is a software update available at the dealer. Didnt you get a letter from Honda yet?
  • marcus216marcus216 Posts: 78
    I bought my Accord EXL v6 about a month ago and just hit 1,000 miles. I have not experienced your hesitation/stutter issues, nor any transmission issues, but I have experienced the radio distortion issue. It has happened to me about 6 or 7 times and the only way to cure it is to turn the car off and then on again. That "resets" the audio system and the distortion is gone. There is a new software update for the HondaLink. I just received a letter from Honda asking me to make an appointment with the dealer and get the update. I will do that next week. I hope this solves the occasional radio distortion issue. I also have had an occasional situation where the Sirius XM does not show the station names on the small screen. Again, turning the engine off and on again solves this. I am also hoping the new software update will solve this issue.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    The software update is supposed to solve those issues.
  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    In response to: "There is a software update available at the dealer. Didnt you get a letter from Honda yet?" Which issue are you referring to? The update is to fix what?
  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    Which issue are you referring to? The update is to fix which of the issues that I posted?
  • ar39ar39 Posts: 61
    The letter didnt specify fix for any problem in particular. But, the slow (buggy) navi menu is faster after the update. Also, music streaming from my cell phone via blutooth was intermitent and looks like the update fixed that as well. I experienced bad/noisy audio only once and cannot comment on that. Apart from the mentioned annoyances, my touring has been trouble free.

    Hope this helps.
  • marcus216marcus216 Posts: 78
    Since I originally read you post, I started paying more attention to your experience of a hesitation around 1700 RPM. And I do experience the same thing and I believe it is the transmission downshifting. Now that I am paying attention, the transmission in this car does considerable downshifting and upshifting, especially around that RPM mark. If I am going about 40 mph and I let off the accelerator, the transmission will down shift as the car decelerates just a few MPH. I have no idea if this is related to the VCM or it is just how the transmission is programed. I feel it and can see the tach spike a bit. It does not annoy or bother me, but I don't remember any other automatic transmission cars that I have owned or driven downshifting so frequently with just a small deceleration. It is interesting. I have to take my Accord EXL V6 in for a HondaLink software update. i will speak to the service manager about the frequent downshifting.
  • daneeldaneel Posts: 19
    Marcus216, the 2013 Honda Accord EX-L V6 comes with a 6-speed automatic transmission, NOT a CVT.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,936
    blame the EPA. that is how Honda (and every other maker) gets the big MPG #s. it is a 6 speed that tries to get into 6th before you are off your driveway. SO at 1700 RPM it is essentially lugging, so lots of downshifting, plus you have the torque converter locking in and out.

    the VCM just adds another little wrinkle.

    Now, I have the same basic drivetrain in an RDX, and yeah, it often has to downshift around town, but I expect it and don't find it objectionable. Especially when I floor it and get slammed back into the seat!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • I got the Honda Accord V6 - 2013. This is my first Honda which I've heard very good things about!

    I was offered a Honda Maintenance Program for about $900-1,000 upfront. This will allow me to get oil changes and my maintenance checks at 15, 30 and 45K at any Honda service location. Do you think this is worth it?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,936
    not really. 15K is probably an oil change/rotation. Ditto for 30K, but throw in a brake fluid flush. 45K another OFL.

    and most likely the plan only covers what the MM says, and that may not include the brake fluid.

    figure at the deal (they have coupons!) max of $40 each for oil changes at 7,500 mile increments (ballpark) with rotations at every other (maybe $100 total). You get multi point inspections every oil change anyway.

    overall, hard to see you paying nearly that much for the basic services the car will need.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    If you don't mind, let us know what your dealership says when you question the hesitation.
  • halreadshalreads Posts: 1
    Planning to by a Honda Accord EXL and got an offer of 24900 -- any idea how good this is
  • marcus216marcus216 Posts: 78
    Yes, I know the V6 comes with a 6 speed automatic transmission. I stated that I did not know whether the transmission frequent downshifting was related to the VCM,(vehicle cylinder management system), not the CVT.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    If it includes everything but tax and title, 24.9 is a very good price.
  • Hey guys, has anyone noticed water on the top edge of their break lights? I do get some on the top side, kind of likea line that seems to drain aafter a while. It doesn't get to the middle or anything. I contacted Honda and went to a dealership and the dealer said it was ok as long as it doesn't get inside the main lamp???

    Also, I noticed a gap in the right side bumper area. If u look at it from the side and direct sunlight, u can see the black spacers. Meaning is not tight as the other side. Again, th dealer said is normal to have some gaps here and there as no car is perfect???

    It isn't the end of the world, but it bothers me that Honda has the same culture of not honoring their warranties. That's why I don't believe in any type of warranty. Any suggestions ir anyone noticing these issues with their 2013 accords? Thanks in advance for your feedback on these 2 issues.
  • gmanusmcgmanusmc SoCalPosts: 436
    Been buying/leasing Hondas/Acuras since 1989 - some with hondacare extended service contracts - have never ever had a problem with Honda not covering something under warranty. My son even had some motor mounts replaced on an Accord under warranty even though his car was way past coverage.
  • billartbillart Posts: 9
    edited April 2013
    I've had my 2013 Accord EXL since Dec. 14 & dropped XM in favor of the free Aha radio. I'm beginning to think I made a mistake. Aha, even after the recent Honda software update & the Hondalink smartphone update, is incredibly unreliable & frustrating. The most I can get is maybe 10 minutes of uninterrupted music when I can connect at all, but then the signal is lost every 5 to 10 seconds. Sometimes trying another channel will help for a bit, then the same issue. Other times I'm unable to connect al all - I might be told to "stop & check my device," other times it'll just say "no data." Or I might be told the station has no content, when I just listened to it the prior day.
    I emailed Aha, & they told me I needed to work with Honda regarding the Hondalink app, but that was just updated. I've tried listening to Aha channels with headphones through the phone, & that works marginally better, but after a while the same issues arise.
    I have an HTC Thunderbolt phone on Verizon. The problems seem to occur whether or not I'm getting 4G.
    Anybody else have similar experiences and, more importantly, were you able to get them resolved?
  • marcus216marcus216 Posts: 78
    I think you are quite right regarding how the new modern transmissions are programmed to get the best gas mileage. The downshifting is not an issue with me. When I punch the accelerator, the car just bolts forward comparable to the 2010 Acura TL that I previously leased. While the Honda V6 does not handle like a TL, it is a very competent automobile. I am very happy with it, especially when I see what I paid for it. I looked at a comparably equipped 2013 Lexus ES 350 before I made my Honda purchase. That car was $12,000 more and was not an appreciable improvement in any area.
  • Well, God bless you and i whish i had your luck when dealing w my local dealerships in nj. I will try my other dealer, but they are always trying to avoid to fix anything or duplicate problems. Same experience w other warranties. but it might be just me, but i personally avoid them as they are also big ticket $$$$ for me.

    The issues i am having are annoying and i wish someone would comment on those and check ther break lights after a storm or car wash and let me know if that is normal on the top edge of the break light. Thanks for your input.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    Have you considered going to the dealer after a storm and looking at others on the lot?
  • gmanusmcgmanusmc SoCalPosts: 436
    Good idea - sometimes which dealer you work with makes all the difference. If you can, seek out a service advisor and/or service manager who demonstrates "good" people skills and a genuine willingness to resolve your issues (I know - not that easy - but they're out there). Good luck - I hope you get your concerns resolved - the new accords seem to be head and shoulders above others in their class.
  • No, but good point, i will see. The technician i drove with, said he had a new accord and noticed the same thing and from their point of view as long as it doesn't get in the middle part is fine.
  • Thanks, i love my car don't get me wrong. Is just that i think that after u pay for a new car, u would get outstanding service or at least like u said a genuine concern or attempt to resolve your issue. Will try another dealer for sure, thanks.
  • frank603frank603 Posts: 1
    Hi,
    First, I would like to thank you for all the work you did investigating this problem - hopefully it will save many other people a lot of time and heartache.
    I got my wife a 2013 Accord LX with CVT back at the end of February. She loves the car, however like you and others here, she is experiencing this stuttering with the transmission. After a little investigation I found all the information you entered here. So I called the dealer today to book her car in to get this sorted out (assuming that they would apply whatever update they applied to your car). The service manager told me that he never heard of any problems like this, and there are no TSBs for the 2013 Accord. Given the volume of Hondas that this dealer sells, I am forced to question his honesty/ability. Anyway, I'm going to call American Honda tomorrow to see if I can get any more joy from them.
    But in the meantime, I was wondering if you ever got any more information on what they did to your car to resolve the issue? I don't want to give you even more work, but you seem to be the only one here that has had this problem resolved, so it would certainly help the rest of us if you had any information that we could give our dealers.
    Many thanks for all your good work on this. I hope that you continue to enjoy your Accord.

    Frank.
  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    KKUHNS: I am having issues with this on/off again stutter and would like more information. You stated Bob Rohrman Honda did a, "firmware update to the transmission software on the car." Do you mind checking your receipts and finding a fix number or something that I can refer to the next time that I speak with Honda?

    You also said that your LX's, "stutter greatly diminished and all but disappeared." Do you still feel that way? Have you noticed any more issues? Another words, do you still think this "fix" is worth pursuing for those of us faced with this problem? I don't want to press Honda for something if this firmware update is still not the answer. You know what I mean?
  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    Hey Frank: Keep in touch with us, please. I am interested in what your dealership says, as well as American Honda. Something tells me Honda is trying hard to get their stories straight with the dealerships, just from my experience. I would recommend not contacting American Honda until after your dealer visit.
  • kkuhnskkuhns Posts: 8
    FWIW, I decided to sell my 2013 Accord LX and get something else. After 5 months, the car was getting good gas mileage (over 30 MPG overall, even after winter), good acceleration, good electronics and drivability. What didn't work for me was the seat, the road noise, and wind noise. My butt went numb after an hour in my commute - I couldn't get comfortable. The road and wind noise was worse than I expected. Maybe I had high expectations, but it just wasn't comfortable to me, though I'm sure it is comfortable and highly desirable to many others. I sold it for a good price and bought a 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid, which has so far proven to be much more comfortable, quiet and great gas mileage. I'm signing off of this forum now. Best wishes to everyone else here.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    Curious about the Fusion hybrid mileage. According to consumer reports it is barely better than the I4 Accord. Fusion does handle well.
  • fair2usfair2us Posts: 26
    kkuhns: You are the second person, that I know of, who ditched the 2013 Accord LX in less that 6 months. I don't blame you, and I hope you continue to enjoy your Fusion.

    Dear Honda Corporation: You should be ashamed. Wake up!
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