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2014 Subaru Forester

woodenarchwoodenarch Posts: 1
edited December 2013 in Subaru
I didn't see a post about the new 2014 Subaru Forester. What do you guys think? This might be the one I end up buying. Not for sure how I feel about the design of the front end vents. I will have to see in person.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Design is edgier than the last one, but what may seem edgy now will blend in as it ages, I'm betting.

    32mpg highway for an AWD model sounds good to me.

    We only have 30k miles on our 2009, else I'd be thinking about trading up.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    Styling (outgoing model is better looking) and reduced towing (1500 vs 2400) are minuses. Everything else is a plus. It will sell very well I predict.

    Bob
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 683
    Styling (outgoing model is better looking) and reduced towing (1500 vs 2400) are minuses

    That reduced towing rating suggests a smaller margin in the new transmission design. With less than 10,000 miles on my 2010 XT, I certainly will wait to see how well that new trans holds up on the turbo.

    The new window by the mirror on the driver's side is useful on tight left turns into narrow one-ways, but the styling is not as good as the 2010. It is possible that the new increased windshield slant will result in reflections from the dashboard in very bright sun.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Visibility should be better for parking. The Impreza I test drove was great.
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 683
    The Impreza I test drove was great.

    If you don't mind sitting on the floor. :P
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited January 2013
    Compared to a Forester, sure.

    Hey, the 09 Forester passenger sits too low!
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 815
    Subaru had me until I learned about the reduced towing capacity, lack of "gear" selection with the CVT, and essentially required sunroof on anything Premium and above. Three strikes and it's out. Actually, each the three is a deal killer for me.

    If those aren't important to you, though, I think it's going to be an otherwise exceptional vehicle.

    The XT vents are a little funky, but the normally aspirated versions will have a more traditional bumper.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The 6 speed manual Premium has the AWP but not the moonroof, per one review.
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 815
    That's what I understand and why I added "essentially." I'm a fan of manuals and would buy them exclusively if I lived in Europe, but in the US, I worry about trying to sell used later. I'm guessing a very small percentage of sales will be manual. The packaging on the Forester is interesting. A turbo with no manual option, but available on the NA motor. No required sunroof on a Premium unless you opt for the CVT and then you have no choice on the mid level and higher trims. No paddle shifters despite the cheaper Impreza coming with them. Downgraded towing capacity despite using a drivetrain from the Outback that is rated much higher in towing, and a stiffer body that would theoretically be better for towing (brakes maybe???). I have no doubt it'll be a great success and excellent vehicle for the vast majority of people. Just not me. We'll enjoy our 2012 Impreza for one vehicle, but the other is now in question.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    Well, the nice thing about the manual is that you don't suffer the towing penalty of the CVT, plus resale isn't an issue unless you try to turn around and sell it soon after purchase.

    I like having the moonroof on my X Premium (2010), but then it isn't a normal moonroof. I don't like the skinny little useless things on most vehicles; thankfully, the Forester has a massive glass sheet up there and it really opens up the interior of the vehicle.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited January 2013
    Which Impreza models get the paddles?

    CVT may have been the limitation for towing. Wes beat me to it.

    Crazy idea - make the moonroof standard!
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 815
    Impreza Premium models and above get paddle shifters. Only the base model with CVT is equipped with the "Low" mode that all Forester NA models get.

    Wes, that's interesting about the tow rating with the manual. Everything I've read didn't differentiate between the CVT and manual, but rather said towing was reduced to 1,500 lbs across the board. Where did you find that nugget of info? Good find. I assumed the CVT is the Gen 2 found in the Outback, but if the CVT is the limiting factor, then that must not be the case given the Outback's much higher towing capability.

    Sunroof is a deal killer for me for a myriad of reasons. I sure hope Subaru doesn't continue that standardization trend with other models.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's cool, then. CVT for when you feel lazy, manual select when you want it.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    Everything I've read states towing has been reduced across the board too.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    edited January 2013
    Where did you hear about different towing for manuals? Everything I've read has stated all Foresters have reduced towing.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    They probably have. The difference being that with the CVT, it's probably a necessity with the reduced tow rating without risking damage to the transmission. With the manual, it's no problem, but why would they want to push out different tow ratings to confuse the issue? Manufacturers are going for the simple/safe route on everything in this litigation-crazed world.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    That doesn't make sense. The CVT-equipped Outback is rated to tow 2700 pounds. In other markets the CVT-equipped Forester, etc. can tow ~ 4K.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    Well, then it really doesn't make any sense. Do they eliminate all the dash gauges that are useful for things like towing (oil temp, coolant temp, etc) in other markets as well?

    I still suspect it boils down to being a liability issue. After all, the vast majority of owners will never tow anything with it anyway, so why encourage it for that use?

    I towed my Escort with my Forester a couple of times, which was probably about a 2,800# load (between dolly and car), and the Forester had absolutely no problem with it all, so I would have no reservation about doing the same with a 2014+ Forester if I had one.
  • tklientklien Posts: 20
    Just got a O.T.D. price for the 2014 2.5i touring with nav..with rear bumper cover and splash guards also 2 year free scheduled maintenance..$ 31605.00 (6% sales tax doc etc. all inc.) Any suggestions or opinions...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You are the very first 2014 I've heard of. Are they in stock, or are you pre-ordering?

    I'd be surprised if you got much discount at all...
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    A Forester in $30K range. What is this world coming to? :cry:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The new XV is bigger than my 98 Forester. Much more passenger space, at least.

    Saw an Equinox at the auto show for $39k. Loaded Durangos and Explorers were $50k.
  • tklientklien Posts: 20
    Pre-order..... March 1st. or so will be initial shipment, and full compliment end of the month... how you been ax man....
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good. Bball season is in full swing and I coach 2 teams, so that's been taking up all my time. My daughter plays on a 2nd team so I took today off to watch her play! :shades:

    Would be cool if you got the very first one.

    Our 2009 was first year, but not among the first. If you recall, they launched the LL Bean model at first, and a couple of months later renamed it the Limited (which we got) when the deal with LL Bean was dissolved.
  • tklientklien Posts: 20
    Sounds like it's all good. The price they gave me also included the miror with the compass...Don't know why they limit the interior colors on the Tubo's. Might of considered one but my last two vehicles.Subies( have been black. )int.
  • krellu7421krellu7421 Posts: 8
    edited February 2013
    Received an e-mail yesterday.A dealer in NJ said the first week of march will be getting a large shipment of 2014 foresters.Thought I might mention this in case anyone is interested.I was going to get a crosstrek LTD loaded,also had considered a 2014 forester touring 2.5 xi also loaded.Then I suddenly I
    decided on a 2013 impreza 5-door LTD loaded,because of the epa 27/36.
    I think I made a great choice.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Congrats on the Impreza. :shades:

    Let's see who the first new Forester owner is.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,455
    Well, it's the cheapest of the three and rated for the best fuel economy, so those are two bonuses right there! As long as your happy with the purchase, I think you hit the trifecta. ;)

    Congrats.
  • doc96doc96 Posts: 1
    outdoor price 28300 limited
    option ...splash guard and rear bumper cover
    what do you think?
    Its pre-order
    x man???
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You'll be the first - no one to compare it to!
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