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The Current State of the US Auto Market

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  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,737
    The Aztek looks like Maria Sharapova compared to a Cube or a Juke, although few here will actually admit it.

    Taste is in the eye of the beholder. I would much rather look at a Juke or a Cube than an Aztek.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    And Ford has had lots o'problems with their new vehicles in the past couple years.

    I can only speak from experience. Between the '99 vette, '00 Silverado, '00 Yukon Denali, '02 Yukon Denali, and '10 Acadia you can believe that I've heard my share of can't duplicate. so much so that I insist on a test drive with either or both the tech and service advisor. That's when you find out little details like the dealer's balancer can't balance 20" rims.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    Taste is in the eye of the beholder.

    Boy, apparently.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    I don't know where you live, but I have a great Chevy service department. I don't go in there pounding on the counter, and I give a written description, very specific as to what I think is happening and what I want, and presto...it's done right.
  • fho2008fho2008 Posts: 393
    VW cheapened the Jetta name with the Jetta VI, but with almost 65k I have no electric gremlins on my '08 Jetta V.

    Warranty work? A recall that was a non issue with my car.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    kiss the ground it rolls on. :)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,500
    As the data apparently goes back to at least 2002, you're no doubt right.

    Even for simple jobs too, if you have to replace some little thing like a loose handle or fitting, I am certain it will cost 2x+ as much in an imported premium car than in others.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,737
    Even for simple jobs too, if you have to replace some little thing like a loose handle or fitting, I am certain it will cost 2x+ as much in an imported premium car than in others.

    There must be somewhere that money goes. Perhaps some 1%-ers in Germany? :P
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,500
    Big overhead costs both here and at home (compare a mainstream facility to a premium facility - usually a big difference), and probably to help fund the German system that gives workers there far more amenities than they have here. Their 1%ers haven't become as treacherous as some of ours, just yet.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    I don't know where you live, but I have a great Chevy service department.

    That could be where the problem lies. My most problematic vehicle was the '00 Silverado however knowing one of the dealership principals had everything expedited in fact they went to bat for me on a buyback under the lemon law. I had invested too much time and money customizing the truck and had settled for an extended warranty from GM in lieu of the buyback.

    The most problematic dealerships has and still is the "Professional Grade" dealers meaning GMC. I noticed you don't have any experience with those Professional Grade Service Advisors. You might, just might change your tune once dealing with them.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,353
    edited July 2013
    The most problematic dealerships has and still is the "Professional Grade" dealers meaning GMC. I noticed you don't have any experience with those Professional Grade Service Advisors. You might, just might change your tune once dealing with them.

    Some tunes were never meant to change, apparently. :blush:

    The Chevy dealer is a throwback from the '60's and reminds me of a chop shop!"

    I can tell you the local Honda dealer service is so much better organized than the GMC dealer 1/2 mile from each other. As for Mazda, I can't know since the CX-9 has not a single issue since inception. :shades:
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    edited July 2013
    hankerin' for the unique, boxy little CUV Nissan Cube. I would take my sample with Nissan's 6-speed manual transmission and row my own.

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    2013 Nissan Cube-this look is quickly growing on me!

    With sales slow and this bodystyle sort of down and out I have a feeling Nissan dealers would dicker down a grand or two. The 1.8L 128 horsepower 4-cyl. with the 6-speed manual transmission is going for $19,740 at a Nissan dealer about 150 miles east of me here in Alamogordo, NM. That is a dealer called Permian Nissan in Hobbs, NM, right by the Texas border. My offer would be at least $2,000 less than that. Nissan is offering $500 cash to the financing pot now for this car. I like it's funky styling and what is said to be a large, cavernous interior, along with it's unusual rear hatch door that opens from the right and swings towards the left. Unusual and Nissan says it is to make the urban load-in and load-out experience easier for people. I also like the front "mini-bulldog" look and, the look in the rear with those thin horizontal taillights. Really a cool-looking CUV to me.

    Since trading in the '08 Lancer GTS would be necessary for us a deal anytime soon is not very likely at all, but the little rolling box remains a source of leisure time study pleasure for me. But that's just me.

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    2013 Nissan Cube 1.8L S - rear view...nice!

    Estimates for mpg are 24 in the city and 30 on the highway. Not great but definitely acceptable numbers as far as I'm concerned. I think I could beat those numbers, though.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,847
    My uncle briefly considered a Cube when he was on a car hunt a couple weeks ago. He had me go with him one day to get my opinion. It's not my thing, but it didn't seem like a bad little rig. The seating position was decent for a small vehicle, and visibility was decent.

    However, they had a used '09 on the lot that didn't give me a good vibe. The coloring on the top of the dash, where the defroster vents are, was peeling off. I think it was simply painted, rather than dyed, I guess. A minor thing actually, but it just made me wonder where else they might have cheaped out, in building this car.

    Plus, it was kind of a hot day, I was tired, and a bit aggravated from driving my Park Ave with no brakes, in rush hour traffic, to the mechanic to get it fixed. So I wasn't really in a good mood to look favorably at cars in general. And, with all the plastics and stuff in modern cars, when their interiors heat up, they really don't smell that good in my opinion. Hate to disagree with the movie (and novel) "Christine", but that is NOT the finest smell in the world!
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    2013 Nissan Cube 1.8L S - rear view...nice!

    I know that everyone comes to the table with their personal biases, myself included, but I simply cannot think of an uglier rear end than that, and I include the Aztek. I am always reminded of a '98 Taurus with a box..literally...placed on the decklid.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,957
    Well, I like boxes and like the Cube just fine. The Aztek and Rendezvous never appealed all that much because the rear angle messed up the boxiness. But that's my issue with a lot of SUVs and crossovers. May as well just get a sporty hatch if you are going to give up that room just for "style".

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,353
    I think of engineers on quaaludes when I look at this:

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    Nothing uglier that was actually produced.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    Umm, I'm totally with ya as far as the Pontiac Aztek! I like the Yugo more than the Aztek.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,957
    The Prius sort of copied that split rear window look.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,847
    The Prius sort of copied that split rear window look.

    I think the Aztek got that split window idea from the 2nd-gen Honda CRX.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    Other than aesthetics and mpg I often check out the crash test ratings of smaller vehicles when considering for purchase. Always curious how I would survive in a crash driving on average a smaller vehicle than the rest of the population.
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